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Not a fan of the draft

Créé par: Jukinators
Équipe: 2023-24 Lightning de Tampa Bay
Date de création initiale: 29 juin 2023
Publié: 29 juin 2023
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JBB since 2019 has not had the best track record for drafting. Sure his highest selection was pick 27 but even Nolan Foote was underwhelming. 4 years isn’t enough to judge someone on their draft history especially with the little amount of draft capital JBB has had but that is his own fault as he has traded those picks away at the tdl and most of those trade were overpays. I truly think Jbb has not had a good move since savard and you can even argue he wasn’t needed on that team. Yes even hagel was a overpay not saying he hasn’t been phenomenal and I hope he resigns for 8 years that trade was a overpay now and at the time. Not saying JBB needs to be questioned but I don’t think his recent moves has him being shown as one of the top 15 gms in the leauge
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29 juin 2023 à 21 h 5
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I agree, I am also unsure of how much of an impact that scouts have in the process so I try not to judge GMs too much for their draft decisions but we definitely did not pick the player that I was hoping for at 37. The fact that cristall was still there was a blessing and we threw it away. Even then I thought we would maybe draft based on needs and there was a couple of good centers left in Heidt and Sawchyn but we ended up drafting another RW. Gauthier is still a good player and there were far more questionable picks in that draft but I am still kinda disappointed. I also would put Huuhtanen, Gauthier, Edmonds, Schmidt and maybe Hugo in the Hopefully NHLer category but the rest I agree with. Interesting pick in Shaugabay, seems like he will be a boom or bust
29 juin 2023 à 21 h 14
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Quoting: LordStanlersCup
I agree, I am also unsure of how much of an impact that scouts have in the process so I try not to judge GMs too much for their draft decisions but we definitely did not pick the player that I was hoping for at 37. The fact that cristall was still there was a blessing and we threw it away. Even then I thought we would maybe draft based on needs and there was a couple of good centers left in Heidt and Sawchyn but we ended up drafting another RW. Gauthier is still a good player and there were far more questionable picks in that draft but I am still kinda disappointed. I also would put Huuhtanen, Gauthier, Edmonds, Schmidt and maybe Hugo in the Hopefully NHLer category but the rest I agree with. Interesting pick in Shaugabay, seems like he will be a boom or bust


All of those players probably grow to be NHL players I just don’t know if that happens while they are still on the team. Hugo might have to be a tdl asset if he doesn’t have a good year. All the other players are long term projects and probably won’t be ready until 2025 earliest
29 juin 2023 à 21 h 16
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All of those players probably grow to be NHL players I just don’t know if that happens while they are still on the team. Hugo might have to be a tdl asset if he doesn’t have a good year. All the other players are long term projects and probably won’t be ready until 2025 earliest


wait was the hopefully nhler for making the team this season or just at some point in their development?
29 juin 2023 à 21 h 32
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Gauthier was arguably the best available. I would have liked Brindley, but he was taken already. Gauthier was ranked by some as high as #16, and most had him going mid-to late 1st. Overall, he seems like a good pick.
29 juin 2023 à 21 h 35
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I agree, I am also unsure of how much of an impact that scouts have in the process so I try not to judge GMs too much for their draft decisions but we definitely did not pick the player that I was hoping for at 37. The fact that cristall was still there was a blessing and we threw it away. Even then I thought we would maybe draft based on needs and there was a couple of good centers left in Heidt and Sawchyn but we ended up drafting another RW. Gauthier is still a good player and there were far more questionable picks in that draft but I am still kinda disappointed. I also would put Huuhtanen, Gauthier, Edmonds, Schmidt and maybe Hugo in the Hopefully NHLer category but the rest I agree with. Interesting pick in Shaugabay, seems like he will be a boom or bust


Cristall is huge boom/bust, and apparently his skating is an issue, Tampa's had enough issues lately with that, so thisnpick seems good.
29 juin 2023 à 21 h 46
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wait was the hopefully nhler for making the team this season or just at some point in their development?


Some point in their development. The Syracuse tab was players I think will spend more of their time in Syracuse than Tampa
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Gauthier was arguably the best available. I would have liked Brindley, but he was taken already. Gauthier was ranked by some as high as #16, and most had him going mid-to late 1st. Overall, he seems like a good pick.


I really wanted Brindley but at the same time do we not have enough small fowards. Some size would have been nice. My personal pick would have been heidt but I’m fine with gauthier
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29 juin 2023 à 21 h 57
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I really wanted Brindley but at the same time do we not have enough small fowards. Some size would have been nice. My personal pick would have been heidt but I’m fine with gauthier


He's not that small at around 6'0, 185; granted Heidt and a few others were a little taller and/or bigger, but for overall skill, I think Tampa did very well here based on most projections I saw.
29 juin 2023 à 22 h 15
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Cristall is huge boom/bust, and apparently his skating is an issue, Tampa's had enough issues lately with that, so thisnpick seems good.


Cristall is a boom/bust but his ceiling is so much higher than Gauthier. Also I think the comments about his skating were overblown, he dropped as far as he did because of lack of tenacity. He is so skillful and has great stick handling and vision. We could have used a player like him on an ELC but oh well. Gauthier is more of the role player that tampa is used to so he would probably fit in better with our system anyway I suppose. I also really dont like drafting players from the Q, would much prefer taking them from the WHL
 
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