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is dach still worth a first ? i feel like habs fans would be chapped over anything else but he has kind of struggled even questions the 2 2nds but he does have potential just a ton of red flags
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13 juin à 13 h 37
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ya okay lets hear the reason why boston does that?
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If you're not retaining on Skinner, I don't see why the Kings would retain on PLD.

Besides, I don't think the Kings do it even considering no/matching retention. Don't really need an aging winger whose production is starting to fall off already.
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13 juin à 13 h 45
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Easy no from the Habs. They need to bet on his potential more then any trade value unless it's just a ridiculous overpay.
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Easy no from the Flames. Andersson is worth far more
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Quoting: KingofRnR
Easy no from the Flames. Andersson is worth far more


The pick would have to be top ten and they wouod have to add at least a b level prospect
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The pick would have to be top ten and they wouod have to add at least a b level prospect

And/or names like Cozens, Byram (with conditions) or Kulich and Krebs or Strbak as the B Prospect
13 juin à 14 h 53
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Its an easy no from all the non-Sabres teams.

I'm not even sure I get the Dach struggling part, unless you're talking about injuries. But there's no reason for Montreal to trade him right now for anything close to that little.

I'd also be pretty shocked if Guentzel signs for that little, especially with a team without recent success.
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13 juin à 14 h 57
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Habs pass. No reason to move Dach just yet, especially for that……and Dach hasn’t struggled in MTL. He’s actually been playing pretty well here. But he is injury prone which does lower his value
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13 juin à 14 h 58
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Dach has not struggled. He was injured.
Habs are not selling low. You understand that.
They are going to give him the 2C position next year. Otherwise, Habs have no other centers lol

EDIT: That's not to say your trade value isn't fair. I think it's actually fair... for his value right now. I'm just saying that the Habs are not trading him before another full season.
Cheers
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13 juin à 17 h 20
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Quoting: Imraygbiv
If you're not retaining on Skinner, I don't see why the Kings would retain on PLD.

Besides, I don't think the Kings do it even considering no/matching retention. Don't really need an aging winger whose production is starting to fall off already.


one has a 8 year deal one has a 4 or 3 year deal id say the overpayment for both is about the same the kings get out of their mistake quicker
13 juin à 17 h 22
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Quoting: Fran615
Dach has not struggled. He was injured.
Habs are not selling low. You understand that.
They are going to give him the 2C position next year. Otherwise, Habs have no other centers lol

EDIT: That's not to say your trade value isn't fair. I think it's actually fair... for his value right now. I'm just saying that the Habs are not trading him before another full season.
Cheers


he struggled before he was injured .... his numbers weren't good .. and showed no progress over 3 years and than he got injured for a whoel year hes 22 and isn't much better than what he was at 18 .... he is a red flag . hes also just a serviceable 3rd line player at this point a 4th liner on a deep team
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he struggled before he was injured .... his numbers weren't good .. and showed no progress over 3 years and than he got injured for a whoel year hes 22 and isn't any better than what he was at 18 .... he is a red flag


Quoting: Fran615
Dach has not struggled. He was injured.
Habs are not selling low. You understand that.
They are going to give him the 2C position next year. Otherwise, Habs have no other centers lol

EDIT: That's not to say your trade value isn't fair. I think it's actually fair... for his value right now. I'm just saying that the Habs are not trading him before another full season.
Cheers

he was a 3rd overall pick .. 4 years later and he is not even a good 3rd liner serviceable sure a great 3rd line player could get 40+ points .... even with bums ... so why can't he oh i know cuz hes not that great
Quoting: ggha777
Habs pass. No reason to move Dach just yet, especially for that……and Dach hasn’t struggled in MTL. He’s actually been playing pretty well here. But he is injury prone which does lower his value


stop being a homer dach has struggled ... he is a 22 year old 3rd overall pick who is virtually the same player he was at 18 ... he just missed a whole season to ... he did struggle he was just serviceable 3rd line forward a 4th liner on a deep team .. u guys overate him ... their is reason why u got him for cheaper than a 3rd overall pick he didn't maintain his value and it has only dropped since. how is he not struggling ... a 3rd overall pick who is 22 years old and he cant even muster 35 points thats struggling with his injury its also pretty safe to assume he maybe a worse player when he comes back its not to uncommon to see in players who miss a year they usually take a step back
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Its an easy no from all the non-Sabres teams.

I'm not even sure I get the Dach struggling part, unless you're talking about injuries. But there's no reason for Montreal to trade him right now for anything close to that little.

I'd also be pretty shocked if Guentzel signs for that little, especially with a team without recent success.
a 3rd overall pick whos 22 years old cant even muster 35 points is a borderline 3rd line forward ... and hes not struggling .. he just missed a whole year usually players take a step back afterr that ... he is struggling ... HE HAS STRUGGLED EVERY YEAR hes a bottom 6 forward 4 years after being drafted 3rd overall
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Its an easy no from all the non-Sabres teams.

I'm not even sure I get the Dach struggling part, unless you're talking about injuries. But there's no reason for Montreal to trade him right now for anything close to that little.

I'd also be pretty shocked if Guentzel signs for that little, especially with a team without recent success.


if he wasn't struggling he wouldve been a top 6 forward by now or atleast a 40 point guy he is struggling compared to the standards of what a good 3rd overall pick is and he is a low end nhl player he can't even crack 35 points
13 juin à 17 h 40
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he was a 3rd overall pick .. 4 years later and he is not even a good 3rd liner serviceable sure a great 3rd line player could get 40+ points .... even with bums ... so why can't he oh i know cuz hes not that great

stop being a homer dach has struggled ... he is a 22 year old 3rd overall pick who is virtually the same player he was at 18 ... he just missed a whole season to ... he did struggle he was just serviceable 3rd line forward a 4th liner on a deep team .. u guys overate him ... their is reason why u got him for cheaper than a 3rd overall pick he didn't maintain his value and it has only dropped since. how is he not struggling ... a 3rd overall pick who is 22 years old and he cant even muster 35 points thats struggling with his injury its also pretty safe to assume he maybe a worse player when he comes back its not to uncommon to see in players who miss a year they usually take a step back


Then your team shouldn't go get him if he is that bad. You hate the guy. Don't go trade for him.

Habs already have him on the team. I'm NOT saying he is McDavid... all I'm saying is that the Habs have enough draft picks as it stands and want to give him a shot at the 2nd line center.
That's all I'm saying. No need for an overreact.
Relax. All I'm saying is that the Habs won't do that trade. And I even mentioned that your trade value was fair.
Cheers buddy.
13 juin à 17 h 42
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a 3rd overall pick whos 22 years old cant even muster 35 points is a borderline 3rd line forward ... and hes not struggling .. he just missed a whole year usually players take a step back afterr that ... he is struggling ... HE HAS STRUGGLED EVERY YEAR hes a bottom 6 forward 4 years after being drafted 3rd overall


Dude, calm down.
Fine, he struggles.
He is struggling.
Habs still don't want draft picks for him; they want to give him a shot. That is their plan.
You can insult them all you want, scream bloody murder and write in ALL CAPS that he is struggling, hee's not getting traded to Buffalo for 2 draft picks.
That's all.
Breathe in... breathe out...

No need for insults or overreaction.
Your trade value IS FAIR. Can you read that?
But the Habs will not do that trade. That's all.
Cheers buddy.
13 juin à 17 h 42
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
ya okay lets hear the reason why boston does that?


u expect brazeau to be so much better than greenway he had a decent stint over 28 games with 9 points don' get over your head with him its hard to say if he truly is the better player
13 juin à 17 h 52
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Modifié 13 juin à 17 h 58
Quoting: Fran615
Dude, calm down.
insult who i clicked the caps button by accident i
Fine, he struggles.
He is struggling.
Habs still don't want draft picks for him; they want to give him a shot. That is their plan.
You can insult them all you want, scream bloody murder and write in ALL CAPS that he is struggling, hee's not getting traded to Buffalo for 2 draft picks.
That's all.
Breathe in... breathe out...

No need for insults or overreaction.
Your trade value IS FAIR. Can you read that?
But the Habs will not do that trade. That's all.
Cheers buddy.




when did i insult anybody i just said he is struggling thats a fact not a insult .... i'm sorry i hurt your feelings with the truth . by the way my keyboard is half broken i pressed the cap lock by accident i didnt bother editing it why would i ... its not a big deal im calm i never insulted anybody all i said was that he is struggling which is true its not a big deal every team in the league has had something worse happen to them whats wrong with u being called a homer is not a insult .. everybody is a homer for their own team im a homer im self aware though and i know i overate my own
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Quoting: Lilwoodiewood
a 3rd overall pick whos 22 years old cant even muster 35 points is a borderline 3rd line forward ... and hes not struggling .. he just missed a whole year usually players take a step back afterr that ... he is struggling ... HE HAS STRUGGLED EVERY YEAR hes a bottom 6 forward 4 years after being drafted 3rd overall


Quoting: Lilwoodiewood
if he wasn't struggling he wouldve been a top 6 forward by now or atleast a 40 point guy he is struggling compared to the standards of what a good 3rd overall pick is and he is a low end nhl player he can't even crack 35 points


Sounds like Buffalo shouldn't trade for him then. Kindly edit your proposal to remove it, so others can instead engage with people who form their opinions entirely from HockeyDB
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now i want to insult u your accusing me of insulting everyone u overate your prospects your homers thats not much of a insult dach has struggled thats not much of a insult ... everybody is a little bit of a homer ... all fanbases do it rebuilding passionate fanbases like the habs are just going do it more ... if the bruins were rebuilding i think the fanbase would be the same ....
Quoting: Fran615
Dude, calm down.
Fine, he struggles.
He is struggling.
Habs still don't want draft picks for him; they want to give him a shot. That is their plan.
You can insult them all you want, scream bloody murder and write in ALL CAPS that he is struggling, hee's not getting traded to Buffalo for 2 draft picks.
That's all.
Breathe in... breathe out...

No need for insults or overreaction.
Your trade value IS FAIR. Can you read that?
But the Habs will not do that trade. That's all.
Cheers buddy.
13 juin à 18 h 0
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when did i insult anybody i just said he is struggling thats a fact not a insult .... i'm sorry i hurt your feelings with the truth . by the way my keyboard is half broken i pressed the cap lock by accident i didnt bother editing it why would i ... its not a big deal im calm i never insulted anybody all i said was that he is struggling which is true its not a big deal every team in the league has had something worse happen to them whats wrong with u being called a homer is not a insult .. everybody is a homer for their own team im a homer im self aware though and i know i overate my own


no problem.

Cheers buddy!

You guys have a hell of a team brewing in Buffalo by the way. Once everything starts rolling and the young guys mature a bit, they'll be scary!
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
ya okay lets hear the reason why boston does that?


brazeau 26 year old career minor leaguer with one nhl stint of 29 games and 9 points ... he could become a decent 3rd line winger maybe even pot 20 goals but its unlikely hes most likely just a 4th line winger who can get like 20-30 points year ... greenway a established 3rd line winger who is also 6 foot 5 just like brazeau .... i don't see this is off the charts its a 4th round pick and a career minor leaguer who is 26 and might have a little potential and its being traded for a a nhl regular ..... it may be worth it to hold onto brazeau but are pro scous are good if they see a better fit theyll go for it idk if greenway is a good fit
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Quoting: Burnout
Sounds like Buffalo shouldn't trade for him then. Kindly edit your proposal to remove it, so others can instead engage with people who form their opinions entirely from HockeyDB


hes not a great 3rd line player its been 4 years since he was drafted 3rd overall and he is still not a good 3rd line player ... how is that not struggling u slow mentally or something ... a 3rd overall pick should be a top 6 center at this point and a decent one at that
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hes not a great 3rd line player its been 4 years since he was drafted 3rd overall and he is still not a good 3rd line player ... how is that not struggling u slow mentally or something ... a 3rd overall pick should be a top 6 center at this point and a decent one at that


If you think he sucks so much, don't propose a trade for him. Just delete the proposal.
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Quoting: Lilwoodiewood
he was a 3rd overall pick .. 4 years later and he is not even a good 3rd liner serviceable sure a great 3rd line player could get 40+ points .... even with bums ... so why can't he oh i know cuz hes not that great

stop being a homer dach has struggled ... he is a 22 year old 3rd overall pick who is virtually the same player he was at 18 ... he just missed a whole season to ... he did struggle he was just serviceable 3rd line forward a 4th liner on a deep team .. u guys overate him ... their is reason why u got him for cheaper than a 3rd overall pick he didn't maintain his value and it has only dropped since. how is he not struggling ... a 3rd overall pick who is 22 years old and he cant even muster 35 points thats struggling with his injury its also pretty safe to assume he maybe a worse player when he comes back its not to uncommon to see in players who miss a year they usually take a step back


A homer? Dach’s game has actually taken a step up since he’s gotten to Montreal, his only flaw has been that he’s injured. But since getting to Montreal his game has improved. You clearly don’t watch and just look at stats and yap

And yes he hasn’t been great for a 3OA pick. But we’re not looking at that. Dach can be a good middle 6/ second line guy if he can stay healthy. We’re not looking at the fact that he was a 3oa pick. That’s literally besides the point. His game has improved since he joined the Habs. So why would we trade him when his game has improved under MSL😘?
 
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