24-25 Blackhawks v4

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Créé par: cagauf

Équipe: 2024-25 Blackhawks de Chicago

Date de création initiale: 31 mai 2024

Publié: 31 mai 2024

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

The goal of this version is a realistic off-season if the Blackhawks draft Ivan Demidov.

What I believe to be the main priorities of the off-season:
1. Acquire one or two veteran wingers that can play in the top 9 (ideally top 6)
2. Acquire a second line right shot defenceman to play with korchinski and to take the pressure off of Connor Murphy
3. Acquire some more organizational depth on defence
4. Pick up one or two bad contracts for assets
5. Move up in the draft to in order to obtain higher quality prospects over sheer quantity as the hawks have had lots of picks and cannot draft 10+ players every year

In this example, hawks take demidov at 2 and move up to 15 swapping with Detroit.
With the 15th pick I see them taking either Jiricek or Brandsegg-Nygård
Let me know what you think of this list and you see anything differently!

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

LISTE DE RÉSERVE		ANS	CAP HIT
Safonov, Ilya		1	950 000 $
Kelley, Connor		1	800 000 $

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Anderson, Joey	1	950 000 $
Crevier, Louis	1	850 000 $
Entwistle, Mackenzie	1	900 000 $
Guttman, Cole	1	900 000 $
Phillips, Isaak	1	900 000 $
Stauber, Jaxson	1	825 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Marchessault, Jonathan	2	7 500 000 $
Stephenson, Chandler	2	5 000 000 $
Walker, Sean	3	4 250 000 $
Fleury, Haydn	1	850 000 $
Stecher, Troy	1	850 000 $

Transactions

CHI

Mikheyev, Ilya
Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (VAN)

VAN

Future Considerations

CHI

Ceci, Cody
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (EDM)

EDM

Raddysh, Taylor [Droits de RFA]
Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (OTT)

CHI

Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (DET)

DET

Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (EDM)

Détails additionnels:

UFA signing rights to Tyler Johnson

I could see Johnson landing here on a cheap contract with his former GM.

Rachats de contrats

Josh Bailey: 1 166 667 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Jake McCabe: 2 000 000 $ (50%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2024
2025
2026

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	87 700 000 $	80 964 167 $	0 $	6 675 000 $	6 735 833 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Kurashev, Philipp 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ AG, C, AD RFA - 1	Bedard, Connor 950 000 $950 000 $ (3 500 000 $$4M) C RFA - 2	Marchessault, Jonathan 7 500 000 $7 500 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 5
Hall, Taylor 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1	Stephenson, Chandler 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ C, AG UFA - 7	Nazar, Frank 950 000 $950 000 $ (900 000 $$900K) AD, C RFA - 2
Athanasiou, Andreas 4 250 000 $4 250 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Reichel, Lukas 1 200 000 $1 200 000 $ AG, C RFA - 2	Donato, Ryan 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ AG, C, AD UFA - 1
Foligno, Nick 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AG, C, AD UFA - 2	Dickinson, Jason 4 250 000 $4 250 000 $ C, AG UFA - 2	Mikheyev, Ilya 4 037 500 $4 037 500 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 2

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Vlasic, Alex 4 600 000 $4 600 000 $ DG UFA - 6	Jones, Seth 9 500 000 $9 500 000 $ DD NMC UFA - 6	Söderblom, Arvid 962 500 $962 500 $ G RFA - 1
Walker, Sean 4 250 000 $4 250 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 5	Ceci, Cody 3 250 000 $3 250 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Mrázek, Petr 4 250 000 $4 250 000 $ G UFA - 2
Korchinski, Kevin 918 333 $918 333 $ (1 000 000 $$1M) DG RFA - 2	Murphy, Connor 4 400 000 $4 400 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Anderson, Joey 950 000 $950 000 $ AD UFA - 2
Slaggert, Landon 912 500 $912 500 $ (850 000 $$850K) AG RFA - 1
Kaiser, Wyatt 916 667 $916 667 $ (425 000 $$425K) DG RFA - 1

31 mai à 13 h 13

CD23tol

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So the incentive for the wings to trade down isn’t shedding salary but to get the rights to a 4th line center?

Pass

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31 mai à 13 h 15

cagauf

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Quoting: CD23tol

So the incentive for the wings to trade down isn’t shedding salary but to get the rights to a 4th line center?

Pass

That’s just a minor throw in they are also getting a second round pick to move down three spots.

What salaries would Detroit want to shed? I’m sure the hawks would be willing to take it on.

31 mai à 13 h 16

CD23tol

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Quoting: cagauf

That’s just a minor throw in they are also getting a second round pick to move down three spots.

Only reason for the wings to move that pick is for a top 6 forward or if someone wants Holl/Copp contract

No reason to move down if that’s not the case

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31 mai à 13 h 17

Droakner

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Oilers will probably accept that tbh, both sides receiving something they need in a way

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31 mai à 13 h 18

JuanDamienNebraska

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Stephenson will sign for more term and more money, especially if you expect him to sign with CHI. Marchessault likely commands more term as well, but that Stephenson contract is particularly bad.

31 mai à 13 h 19

cagauf

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Quoting: CD23tol

Only reason for the wings to move that pick is for a top 6 forward or if someone wants Holl/Copp contract

No reason to move down if that’s not the case

No team would give a top 6 forward to move up 3 spots in the middle of the first round. I’m sure the hawks would be open to taking Holl although it would remove the second round pick.

31 mai à 13 h 20

cagauf

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Quoting: JuanDamienNebraska

Stephenson will sign for more term and more money, especially if you expect him to sign with CHI. Marchessault likely commands more term as well, but that Stephenson contract is particularly bad.

Did you watch Stephenson last year?

I could see the hawks bumping up to 6.25 mil but I don’t think he can command too much term

31 mai à 13 h 30

Hawksguy81

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Not enough value in swapping pick #72 and Raddysh for pick #62 and taking Ceci. Hawks probably pass on that. I agree w/ the Wings fan too. Wings won't swap #15 for #18 to add a late 2nd. Wings would want the Hawks to take a bad contract.

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31 mai à 13 h 34

JuanDamienNebraska

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Quoting: cagauf

Did you watch Stephenson last year?

I could see the hawks bumping up to 6.25 mil but I don’t think he can command too much term

This years center market is very weak. He will easily get more than 2 years term.

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31 mai à 13 h 41

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Quoting: JuanDamienNebraska

This years center market is very weak. He will easily get more than 2 years term.

I do agree that he could get it for sure. I think a team would take him on at 5x5 but depends what he wants to do.
I think it would be smart for him to take a shorter deal for bigger money in Chicago where he is guaranteed top 6 minutes and than he could cash in better on his next deal once the cap goes up.

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31 mai à 13 h 52

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aedoran

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If Tyler wants to reunite with Yzerman he can sign with Detroit in the offseason. But Detroit isn't paying for a 33yr old who will be a UFA in less than a month.

Take Tyler out of the trade and take Fabbri back with you. Fabbri easily fits into your top 9 and probably into your top 6.

31 mai à 13 h 55

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cagauf

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Quoting: aedoran

Johnson was literally just a throw in. I didn’t attribute any value to that, but yes I agree that the hawks would be willing to take on a bad contract if they prefer instead of the second rounder.

Would the wings to Fabri and the 15th for the 18th and a third maybe?

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31 mai à 13 h 56

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JuanDamienNebraska

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Quoting: cagauf

I couldn’t disagree more. His resume is more than solid enough to get him term at a solid number, even on a contending team. He’s 30, he should take advantage of the weak center market now and get his term.

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31 mai à 14 h 0

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Lancebmx

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I guess it would depend on how the draft played out and who was available. For me personally there would have to be 3 of Sennecke, MBN, Jiricek, Connolly, Eiserman or maybe one or two in forgetting about for it to be worth it. We need more high end talent and I feel like the draft falls off a bit after 18.
Ideally we would take that second and ours and package it to move up to the late first round/ early second round. This deal isn't as far out as some might think but honestly I would rather just make the pick and ideally get our player. MBN is my first pick of Catton and Iginla are gone. Sennecke is my second. If those guys are gone and there are still a couple players of interest on the board then I think it's decent.

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31 mai à 14 h 7

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aedoran

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Quoting: cagauf

If this is a draft day trade, then I have no problem with that.

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31 mai à 14 h 13

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CD282

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Quoting: Droakner

Oilers will probably accept that tbh, both sides receiving something they need in a way

Raddysh has no value at all, Edmonton won't have to trade down at the draft to move Ceci. He has value as a top-4 RHD on a low risk contract.

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31 mai à 14 h 57

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cagauf

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Quoting: CD282

Raddysh has no value at all, Edmonton won't have to trade down at the draft to move Ceci. He has value as a top-4 RHD on a low risk contract.

Ceci has no value he hasn’t been terrible but teams won’t just do the Oilers a favour by taking him considering there will be better options in free agency at the same price.

31 mai à 14 h 59

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The differnce between 15 & 18 is an early 3rd on the sound of hockey value chart. I understand why Detroit would not do that though...for the same reasons the Hawks would want to as there seems to be a significant drop in prospect quality right around or after that pick so the 3 spots probably means ending up with a guy in a lower tier on your board.

I would take a Holl dump, but it would need to be fair value to do it as in a decent 2nd in value attached to him. Maybe something like #15, Holl and Berggren for #18, #50 & #67. 15 for 18 & 67 are just about fair value (I know these trade don't get done without an "overpay" to the higher pick and this don't happen as a standalone w/o the rest). Holl dump (has to be a 2nd in value of some sort to take him) + a 2nd for Berggren is the overpay /incentive to do the picks portion.

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31 mai à 15 h 1

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CD282

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Quoting: cagauf

Ceci has no value he hasn’t been terrible but teams won’t just do the Oilers a favour by taking him considering there will be better options in free agency at the same price.

RHD are like gold in this league. Philadelphia gave up a 1st+ for Ristolainen, so Ceci has value.

31 mai à 15 h 18

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Quoting: CD282

RHD are like gold in this league. Philadelphia gave up a 1st+ for Ristolainen, so Ceci has value.

Good RHD...sure. Ceci....not so much. Ristolainen was a top 10 pick coming off 5 straight 40+ point seasons prior to the covid year when he got moved for those picks. Pretty sure the flyers would love to rid themselves of his contract too if they could, so not sure he is the guy I would pick to try to make a causation arguement on behalf of Ceci's value.

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31 mai à 15 h 23

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CD282

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Quoting: wojohawk

Ceci is better defensively and gets paid over $2M less... and I wasn't comparing their value but pointing out the market for RHD.

31 mai à 16 h 38

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Why would Marchessault and Stephenson sign without term?

31 mai à 16 h 51

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Quoting: capsleafs447

Why would Marchessault and Stephenson sign without term?

To get higher AAVs. Lots of contenders are going to be cap strapped so it might make more sense for them to do smaller terms with big money

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31 mai à 17 h 28

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Everything has pretty much been said. So, I'll just say this. I think if teams don't panic on taking defensemen, Jiricek could easily go in the 2nd round. I think people have him far too high right now.

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