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Could I Get Some Scouting Reports On These Guys

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Just curious what everyone knows about these guys and where they might get drafted. Let me know what you guys think.
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Yakemchuk -> Big RHD who scored 30 goals this past season and plays with a mean streak to his game. Some of his puck management and defensive fundamentals leave a lot to be desired. His rankings are all over but I'd suspect he's gone somewhere in the top-12, maybe as high as top-5

Catton -> Center who is an elite skater and just put up extremely impressive WHL numbers this year. Really smart player but his size, an underwhelming end to the year and a lack of some of the "big stage" visibility make some people speculate he'll slip a bit on draft day. Could go as high as 5 or as low as 15, he probably deserves the former but history shows there's a real chance the latter might happen

Buium -> Small, smart defenseman who put up absurd NCAA scoring results this year and won a Gold medal as a DY eligible player at the WJC. Plays with an edge to his game while maintaining a crazy high hockey IQ. No part of his physical toolbox is super impressive, but he doesn't have weaknesses either. Should go in the 6-10 range.

Helenius -> Smaller Center who put up quality results against men in Finland this year. He's a really good skater with high end playmaking habits, but he's not much of a goal scorer and has underwhelmed at times on the international stage. Will probably land in the 10-14 range

Eiserman -> He is incredible at scoring goals. He is not incredible at anything else. Will go in the first half of the first round, will depend on which team feels comfortable with the risks of his flaws.

Greentree -> Big winger who put up really good results on a terrible OHL team this year. Bad at skating but can really shoot and competes hard. Showed non-typical leadership skills by wearing a 'C' on his jersey this year. Has not impressed at international events and looks inconsistent at times. Should go in the 16-24 range, but a team could reach on him,

Brandsegg-Nygård -> Really smart forward who is known for a smart defensive game and putting up strong performances with the spotlight on him. Doesn't have a skillset that most people think will translate to a star NHL forward, but the floor is very high and the micro stats seem to think there is untapped offensive upside there. He will most likely go somewhere between 10-20

Hutson -> USNDPT all-time scoring leader for defenseman, but he is small and has struggled at times to the point where he has not entirely alleviated the notion that he is translatable. Too much of a wild card to even begin justifying a draft order selection

Jiricek -> Defensive defenseman who showed he could keep up with men in a professional league despite being one of the younger defenseman in this draft. Got hurt in the winter and missed a lot of time. Has good size and moves pretty well. My guess is he's specifically going in the 11-16 range

Connelly -> Bigger skilled forward who can play wing or center. Put up strong USHL results and has impressed on the international stage. Has off ice and character concerns. Another total wild card come draft day
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Yakemchuk -> Big RHD who scored 30 goals this past season and plays with a mean streak to his game. Some of his puck management and defensive fundamentals leave a lot to be desired. His rankings are all over but I'd suspect he's gone somewhere in the top-12, maybe as high as top-5

Catton -> Center who is an elite skater and just put up extremely impressive WHL numbers this year. Really smart player but his size, an underwhelming end to the year and a lack of some of the "big stage" visibility make some people speculate he'll slip a bit on draft day. Could go as high as 5 or as low as 15, he probably deserves the former but history shows there's a real chance the latter might happen

Buium -> Small, smart defenseman who put up absurd NCAA scoring results this year and won a Gold medal as a DY eligible player at the WJC. Plays with an edge to his game while maintaining a crazy high hockey IQ. No part of his physical toolbox is super impressive, but he doesn't have weaknesses either. Should go in the 6-10 range.

Helenius -> Smaller Center who put up quality results against men in Finland this year. He's a really good skater with high end playmaking habits, but he's not much of a goal scorer and has underwhelmed at times on the international stage. Will probably land in the 10-14 range

Eiserman -> He is incredible at scoring goals. He is not incredible at anything else. Will go in the first half of the first round, will depend on which team feels comfortable with the risks of his flaws.

Greentree -> Big winger who put up really good results on a terrible OHL team this year. Bad at skating but can really shoot and competes hard. Showed non-typical leadership skills by wearing a 'C' on his jersey this year. Has not impressed at international events and looks inconsistent at times. Should go in the 16-24 range, but a team could reach on him,

Brandsegg-Nygård -> Really smart forward who is known for a smart defensive game and putting up strong performances with the spotlight on him. Doesn't have a skillset that most people think will translate to a star NHL forward, but the floor is very high and the micro stats seem to think there is untapped offensive upside there. He will most likely go somewhere between 10-20

Hutson -> USNDPT all-time scoring leader for defenseman, but he is small and has struggled at times to the point where he has not entirely alleviated the notion that he is translatable. Too much of a wild card to even begin justifying a draft order selection

Jiricek -> Defensive defenseman who showed he could keep up with men in a professional league despite being one of the younger defenseman in this draft. Got hurt in the winter and missed a lot of time. Has good size and moves pretty well. My guess is he's specifically going in the 11-16 range

Connelly -> Bigger skilled forward who can play wing or center. Put up strong USHL results and has impressed on the international stage. Has off ice and character concerns. Another total wild card come draft day


i don't understand the "size" comments when it comes to catton at all, or even helenius for that matter... do you hear anyone ever talk about trocheck's size?

and yet you call connelly bigger? huh -__- are we just referring to weight here or what
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Quoting: DH28Hockey
Yakemchuk -> Big RHD who scored 30 goals this past season and plays with a mean streak to his game. Some of his puck management and defensive fundamentals leave a lot to be desired. His rankings are all over but I'd suspect he's gone somewhere in the top-12, maybe as high as top-5

Catton -> Center who is an elite skater and just put up extremely impressive WHL numbers this year. Really smart player but his size, an underwhelming end to the year and a lack of some of the "big stage" visibility make some people speculate he'll slip a bit on draft day. Could go as high as 5 or as low as 15, he probably deserves the former but history shows there's a real chance the latter might happen

Buium -> Small, smart defenseman who put up absurd NCAA scoring results this year and won a Gold medal as a DY eligible player at the WJC. Plays with an edge to his game while maintaining a crazy high hockey IQ. No part of his physical toolbox is super impressive, but he doesn't have weaknesses either. Should go in the 6-10 range.

Helenius -> Smaller Center who put up quality results against men in Finland this year. He's a really good skater with high end playmaking habits, but he's not much of a goal scorer and has underwhelmed at times on the international stage. Will probably land in the 10-14 range

Eiserman -> He is incredible at scoring goals. He is not incredible at anything else. Will go in the first half of the first round, will depend on which team feels comfortable with the risks of his flaws.

Greentree -> Big winger who put up really good results on a terrible OHL team this year. Bad at skating but can really shoot and competes hard. Showed non-typical leadership skills by wearing a 'C' on his jersey this year. Has not impressed at international events and looks inconsistent at times. Should go in the 16-24 range, but a team could reach on him,

Brandsegg-Nygård -> Really smart forward who is known for a smart defensive game and putting up strong performances with the spotlight on him. Doesn't have a skillset that most people think will translate to a star NHL forward, but the floor is very high and the micro stats seem to think there is untapped offensive upside there. He will most likely go somewhere between 10-20

Hutson -> USNDPT all-time scoring leader for defenseman, but he is small and has struggled at times to the point where he has not entirely alleviated the notion that he is translatable. Too much of a wild card to even begin justifying a draft order selection

Jiricek -> Defensive defenseman who showed he could keep up with men in a professional league despite being one of the younger defenseman in this draft. Got hurt in the winter and missed a lot of time. Has good size and moves pretty well. My guess is he's specifically going in the 11-16 range

Connelly -> Bigger skilled forward who can play wing or center. Put up strong USHL results and has impressed on the international stage. Has off ice and character concerns. Another total wild card come draft day


Looks great. Thank you.
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Roughly…(comps are stylistically drawn)

Yakemchuk - big, offensive RHD, can shoot, has holes in passing game and defense. (Think Risto type)

Catton - skilled, smaller high IQ (think Marner type)

Buium - Smart, fantastic puck-handler…especially in tight spaces in all zones, good for possession style offense. (Think lefty Adam Fox type)

Helenius - Efficient, mistake free, effortless skater…limited upside (maybe Lehkonen)

Eiserman - Elite shooter, playmaking underrated, floats at times (an incomplete Auston Matthews or Patrik Laine)

Greentree - Big winger, gets shots off, coach-ability concerns, plays to score, not to win. (Max Comtois)

MBN - High energy power forward, plays heavier than he measures (Alex Tuch)

Hutson - smaller offensive dman, can run a power play, but skating concerns for his size (Cholowski perhaps)

Jiricek - Defensive dman, puck skills and more cautious approach differentiate from brother (Kulak maybe)

Connelly - Highly Skilled, elite edges, great for team that attacks off transition, off-ice concerns (Jack Hughes type)
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Connelly -> Bigger skilled forward who can play wing or center. Put up strong USHL results and has impressed on the international stage. Has off ice and character concerns. Another total wild card come draft day


He is thin, wiry…and very quick. Probably similar build to Zegras or Sale. Avoids getting knocked off puck by evading contract. A couple years in NCAA will probably allow him to get up for 180-190 lbs.
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Avoids getting knocked off puck by evading contract.


Never signing a contract would be a good way to avoid getting knocked off the puck. smile
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i don't understand the "size" comments when it comes to catton at all, or even helenius for that matter... do you hear anyone ever talk about trocheck's size?

and yet you call connelly bigger? huh -__- are we just referring to weight here or what


It's a mix of both, although height is more important at this point in their developments. Connelly is above average in height but hasn't really filled into his frame. His weight is below average but that's fairly easily fixable.

Catton is sub-6 foot and the same weight as Connelly, I consider that small by NHL standards.

Helenius is listed at 5'10 3/4 but is the heaviest of the trio. Probably bulked up enough to be NHL-ready but his height would still have him on the smaller side of NHL forwards.

As for if any of this actually matters... probably not, but NHL scouts usually don't view it that way
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He is thin, wiry…and very quick. Probably similar build to Zegras or Sale. Avoids getting knocked off puck by evading contract. A couple years in NCAA will probably allow him to get up for 180-190 lbs.


Yeah
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He is thin, wiry…and very quick. Probably similar build to Zegras or Sale. Avoids getting knocked off puck by evading contract. A couple years in NCAA will probably allow him to get up for 180-190 lbs.


Yeah I consider height the more important of the 2 size factors at this stage. Weight really only has impact when it's either a huge x-factor in some capacity or in the context of talking about if a guy is NHL ready or not
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Carter Yakemchuk - Big RHD that skates well and shoots. Older than most in this draft (only 12 days younger than cut off for 2023 draft)

Berkly Catton - Well rounded Center who's only weakness appears to be size (listed at 5'11 163lbs)

Zeev Buium - Slick skating LHD. Could be this years Cale Makar, but needs to prove he didnt benefit from playing on the best NCAA team in the nation.

Konsta Helenius

Cole Eiserman - Somewhat one dimensional, shot first winger. Was very highly touted coming into the season, but has slid after not showing anything beyond his elite shot.

Liam Greentree - Big power forward who can shoot and has shown excellent leadership being the 17 yo captain of a struggling Spitfires team rebuilding this year.

Michael Brandsegg-Nygård - Plays a very mature game, taking games with 6 different teams this season. Has to show more skill development to move any higher in the draft IMO

Cole Hutson - Looks better than his brother for the USNTDP, will be interesting to see if he continues this trajectory in college.

Adam Jiricek - Injuries derailed his season, but could be a steal at the end of the 1st round

Trevor Connelly - One of the most skilled players in the draft, but character issues have kept him outside the top 10 in projections.
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Yakemchuk -> Big RHD who scored 30 goals this past season and plays with a mean streak to his game. Some of his puck management and defensive fundamentals leave a lot to be desired. His rankings are all over but I'd suspect he's gone somewhere in the top-12, maybe as high as top-5

Catton -> Center who is an elite skater and just put up extremely impressive WHL numbers this year. Really smart player but his size, an underwhelming end to the year and a lack of some of the "big stage" visibility make some people speculate he'll slip a bit on draft day. Could go as high as 5 or as low as 15, he probably deserves the former but history shows there's a real chance the latter might happen

Buium -> Small, smart defenseman who put up absurd NCAA scoring results this year and won a Gold medal as a DY eligible player at the WJC. Plays with an edge to his game while maintaining a crazy high hockey IQ. No part of his physical toolbox is super impressive, but he doesn't have weaknesses either. Should go in the 6-10 range.

Helenius -> Smaller Center who put up quality results against men in Finland this year. He's a really good skater with high end playmaking habits, but he's not much of a goal scorer and has underwhelmed at times on the international stage. Will probably land in the 10-14 range

Eiserman -> He is incredible at scoring goals. He is not incredible at anything else. Will go in the first half of the first round, will depend on which team feels comfortable with the risks of his flaws.

Greentree -> Big winger who put up really good results on a terrible OHL team this year. Bad at skating but can really shoot and competes hard. Showed non-typical leadership skills by wearing a 'C' on his jersey this year. Has not impressed at international events and looks inconsistent at times. Should go in the 16-24 range, but a team could reach on him,

Brandsegg-Nygård -> Really smart forward who is known for a smart defensive game and putting up strong performances with the spotlight on him. Doesn't have a skillset that most people think will translate to a star NHL forward, but the floor is very high and the micro stats seem to think there is untapped offensive upside there. He will most likely go somewhere between 10-20

Hutson -> USNDPT all-time scoring leader for defenseman, but he is small and has struggled at times to the point where he has not entirely alleviated the notion that he is translatable. Too much of a wild card to even begin justifying a draft order selection

Jiricek -> Defensive defenseman who showed he could keep up with men in a professional league despite being one of the younger defenseman in this draft. Got hurt in the winter and missed a lot of time. Has good size and moves pretty well. My guess is he's specifically going in the 11-16 range

Connelly -> Bigger skilled forward who can play wing or center. Put up strong USHL results and has impressed on the international stage. Has off ice and character concerns. Another total wild card come draft day


I can see Yakemchuk going around 12. He is with out a doubt the #3 RHD in this draft after Levshunov and Parekh so I doubt he goes any higher than that.
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Roughly…(comps are stylistically drawn)

Yakemchuk - big, offensive RHD, can shoot, has holes in passing game and defense. (Think Risto type)

Catton - skilled, smaller high IQ (think Marner type)

Buium - Smart, fantastic puck-handler…especially in tight spaces in all zones, good for possession style offense. (Think lefty Adam Fox type)

Helenius - Efficient, mistake free, effortless skater…limited upside (maybe Lehkonen)

Eiserman - Elite shooter, playmaking underrated, floats at times (an incomplete Auston Matthews or Patrik Laine)

Greentree - Big winger, gets shots off, coach-ability concerns, plays to score, not to win. (Max Comtois)

MBN - High energy power forward, plays heavier than he measures (Alex Tuch)

Hutson - smaller offensive dman, can run a power play, but skating concerns for his size (Cholowski perhaps)

Jiricek - Defensive dman, puck skills and more cautious approach differentiate from brother (Kulak maybe)

Connelly - Highly Skilled, elite edges, great for team that attacks off transition, off-ice concerns (Jack Hughes type)


Catton is not very comparable to Marner IMO.

I would compare Catton more to a player like Nugent-Hopkins. He is more well rounded than Marner was at this age, and he doesnt rely on pure skill nearly as much as Marner did.
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Quoting: sammy_daws1997
I can see Yakemchuk going around 12. He is with out a doubt the #3 RHD in this draft after Levshunov and Parekh so I doubt he goes any higher than that.

Catton is not very comparable to Marner IMO.

I would compare Catton more to a player like Nugent-Hopkins. He is more well rounded than Marner was at this age, and he doesnt rely on pure skill nearly as much as Marner did.


Yeah, that is probably a good one too. Point is another, but not sure yet if he has straight line speed that Point does. Tim Stützle could be another in that he does a lot of things very well, but isn’t best in class at one thing. Others I have seen..Sebastian Aho, Logan Cooley.

I liked the Marner comp in that he can control play, slow it down if needed, and and can defend with his skating.
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Decent player comparables for each prospect:

Yakemchuk = Brent Burns
Catton = Marco Rossi with Brayden Point speed
Buium = Kris Letang
Helenius = Artturi Lehkonen with Lafreniere playmaking and frame
Eiserman = Patrik Laine with an Ovi shot
Greentree = Juraj Slafkovsky
MBN = Travis Konecny with Brady Tkachuk physicality
Cole Hutson = Torey Krug
Jiricek = Alex Pietrangelo
Connelly = Jack Hughes
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Decent player comparables for each prospect:

Yakemchuk = Brent Burns
Catton = Marco Rossi with Brayden Point speed
Buium = Kris Letang
Helenius = Artturi Lehkonen with Lafreniere playmaking and frame
Eiserman = Patrik Laine with an Ovi shot
Greentree = Juraj Slafkovsky
MBN = Travis Konecny with Brady Tkachuk physicality
Cole Hutson = Torey Krug
Jiricek = Alex Pietrangelo
Connelly = Jack Hughes


I like these.

I saw someone compared Dean Letourneau (a forward) to Brent Burns.
 
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