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Which team would Marner be a fit for

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Équipe: 2024-25 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 29 avr. 2024
Publié: 29 avr. 2024
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Not a fit:
ANA, ARI, BOS, CGY, CHI, COL, CBJ, DAL, EDM, FLA, MIN, MTL, NJ, NYI, NYR, PIT, SJ, TBL, VGK, WSH

Low Chance:
CAR, DET, OTT, PHI, VAN

Potential fit:
BUF, LA, NSH, SEA, STL, WPG
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1.
TOR
    Not a fit, Anaheim is rebuilding
    ANA
      Marner
      2.
      TOR
        Not a fit, Utah should be better next year, but there's not guarantee they are a playoff team. They will likely prioritize defence.
        ARI
          Marner
          3.
          TOR
            Same division contender, not a fit
            BOS
              Marner
              4.
              TOR
                Potential fit.

                Buffalo has a ton of defence, young goaltending, and A BUNCH of young forward prospects. They also have a decent amount of cap space. They definitely have the assets to go after Marner, and could really use a playmaking winger.

                The same division issue could potentially be problematic, but there is definitely potential for this one.
                BUF
                5.
                TOR
                  Calgary is re-tooling, and there is a good chance Marner would not re-sign. Although the assets could work, it does not make sense for them.

                  Not a fit
                  CGY
                    Marner
                    6.
                    TOR
                      Carolina will have to focus on their blue-line this offseason, as there is a good chance they will lose 2 or even 3 pieces of their blueline.

                      They do have cap space, but they have a lot of young players to lock up (Drury, Necas, Jarvis).

                      Perhaps if the Hurricanes wanted to move, lets say Necas for Marner, there could maybe be a fit.

                      However, they will likely focus on their blueline.

                      I'm going to say low-chance but possible fit.
                      CAR
                        Marner
                        7.
                        TOR
                          Chicago is rebuilding, not a fit
                          CHI
                            Marner
                            8.
                            TOR
                              Will need to focus on re-signing some key pieces, and simply do not have the cap space for Marner.

                              Not a fit.
                              COL
                                Marner
                                9.
                                TOR
                                  Rebuilding, not a fit
                                  CBJ
                                    Marner
                                    10.
                                    TOR
                                      Dallas does have a decent amount of cap space, but they also only have 10 forwards, 3 defenceman, and one goalie signed. They wont be able to allocate 11 million to Marner and fill out the rest of their roster without moving some money out (Faksa, Marchment, Dadonov for example).

                                      Not a fit.
                                      DAL
                                        Marner
                                        11.
                                        TOR
                                          Detroit almost made the playoffs this year, and now has some key pieces to re-sign (Raymond, Seider).

                                          They have about 30 mill in cap space, but they only have 6 forwards signed. If they give Raymond and Seider 16 mill combined (8 mill each), that goes down to around 14 mill to fill 5 forward spots. There is money they could potentially move out (Fabbri, Holl, Husso), but even in doing so it could still be a challenge to fit Marner and have enough cap space left over to fill out the rest of their roster .

                                          They do however have some young assets in the system, and lots of draft picks. Again since this is a same division team, that also complicates things.

                                          I'm going to say low chance.
                                          DET
                                          12.
                                          TOR
                                            Edmonton has very little cap space, and a lot of roster spots to fill. Maybe if they moved out Campbell, Kane, and Ceci they could afford Marner.

                                            They do like Toronto's players lol but the cap ramifications make Marner to Edmonton almost impossible.

                                            Not a fit
                                            EDM
                                              Marner
                                              13.
                                              TOR
                                                Same division contender, not a fit.
                                                FLA
                                                  Marner
                                                  14.
                                                  TOR
                                                    LA is an interesting one. They definitely have some young assets and roster players they could move, and they also have about 20 million in cap space. The only big issue is that they do not have a goalie signed for next season, and they may prioritize that first.

                                                    However, perhaps 3 straight years of losing to Edmonton in round 1 makes them consider a big change.

                                                    I do think there is potential here, it just depends on what kind of changes LA's management wants to make, and what they prioritize first.

                                                    Potential fit.
                                                    LAK
                                                      Marner
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                                                      TOR
                                                        Minnesota currently has 6 d, 12 forwards, and 2 goalies signed for next season. The problem is they are already 2 million over the cap (if you include Surgeons contract which is currently on LTIR. If they moved enough money out, there could be potential for it, but as it currently stands it is highly unlikely they would be able to afford Marner

                                                        Not a fit.
                                                        MIN
                                                          Marner
                                                          16.
                                                          TOR
                                                            Rebuilding, and same division. Not a fit
                                                            MTL
                                                              Marner
                                                              17.
                                                              TOR
                                                                Nashville currently has 1 goalie, 5 d, and 10 forwards signed next season with about 19 million in cap space. They do not have any big names to re-sign.

                                                                It is very clear they need some more offence, as although their top line of Forsberg, O'Rielly, and Nyquist has been really good, the rest of their roster (besides Josi) does not have a lot of offensive upside. Only one other player (Tommy Novak) hit the 40 point mark. Nyquist and O'Rielly are also on the back half of their career, and there is no guarantee they continue scoring the way that they did this year. They could use an elite offensive scorer like Marner.

                                                                Imo, this one has potential. Nashville does have some good roster players that the Leafs could be interested in, and some solid young players as well.

                                                                Potential fit.
                                                                NSH
                                                                18.
                                                                TOR
                                                                  The Devils have about 10 million in cap space heading into the offseason. They have 8 forwards, 6 d, and 1 goalie currently signed.

                                                                  The chances are they don't have the cap space to add Marner. However, they do have the young assets and roster players to do so if they are able to clear some cap space. The problem is that they desperately need a goalie. They also already have a lot of great playmakers (Hughes, Bratt, Hischer), and do not have a huge need for Marner.

                                                                  Perhaps if they were able to move out a couple contracts like Palat and Marino, there could be potential for it, but again there are still some key players they need to re-sign (Mercer), and they are most likely going to target a starting goalie.

                                                                  Not a fit.
                                                                  NJD
                                                                    Marner
                                                                    19.
                                                                    TOR
                                                                      The islanders are going to head into the offseason with about 2 million in cap space. Unless they are moving out a lot of salary, there is no fit for Marner.

                                                                      Now, there are some players that the Leafs could be interested in, such as Nelson or Mayfield (Pulock, Pelech, Sorokin all have a full NTC), but I can't see any of those players being equal to what Marner is worth. Their young players (besides Dobson of course but he isn't going anywhere) also do not really intrigue me and I doubt they would intrigue Big Brad.

                                                                      Not a fit.
                                                                      NYI
                                                                      20.
                                                                      TOR
                                                                        The Rangers have about 6 million in cap space going into the off-season with only 4 defence signed, and it is very clear that unless they move both Trouba and Goodrow, there is not fit for Marner. Trouba is their captain and has a NMC. He won't waive.

                                                                        They have Panarin anyways.

                                                                        Not a fit.
                                                                        NYR
                                                                        21.
                                                                        TOR
                                                                          Ottawa has a bit of everything. Cap space, young roster players/prospects, and what sounds like a potential Chycrun trade.

                                                                          The problem here is the same division/rebuilder status (similar to Montreal). Although Ottawa seems a lot loser then some other teams in the east, every year they seem to disappoint.

                                                                          I just can't see a trade happening between these two teams, regardless of how good of a fit it seems to be for both of them.

                                                                          Low chance.
                                                                          OTT
                                                                          22.
                                                                          TOR
                                                                            The Flyers were right there at the end of the year, and a horrible losing streak was the difference. If Ellis and Ristolainen are both still on LTIR, they will have about 12 million in cap spacegoing into this offseason, with 13 forwards, 4 defence, and 2 goalies signed.

                                                                            I would assume they are going to make some adjustments this off-season, and that its likely going to start with their defence considering the fact that only 4 of them are currently signed to deals. On the surface this seems to mean that they don't have the cap space for Marner, but they have a lot of contracts that can definitely be moved out in order to make room. Although I do believe the Flyers will target a C, I do still think Marner could be a fit for them. They need some more offence, and they have the roster players and assets to make a move for a big fish.

                                                                            Low chance.
                                                                            PHI
                                                                            23.
                                                                            TOR
                                                                              The Penguins are heading into the offseason with 9 forwards, 4 d, and 1 goalie signed. They have 5.5 million in cap space.

                                                                              Simply put, the Penguins do not have the cap space nor the assets to acquire Marner. The only trade that would ever work would be either Crosby or Karlsson for Marner, and we all know that's not gonna happen lol.

                                                                              Not a fit.
                                                                              PIT
                                                                              24.
                                                                              TOR
                                                                                Rebuilding, not a fit
                                                                                SJS
                                                                                25.
                                                                                TOR
                                                                                  Going into the offseason, the Kraken have abot 23 million in cap space, a lot more then a lot of other teams. Beniers, Yamamoto, and Tolvanen all need contracts, but that likely won't cost them too much, especially after a down season for Beniers.

                                                                                  With those three signed, the Kraken would have 11 forwards (12 including Wright), 5 d, and 2 goalies signed. A big trade for Marner could definitely work. They have the cap, the players, and the assets to make a trade work. They have a lot of depth up front, on the blueline, and even maybe a goalie if Toronto were to ask for Daccord.

                                                                                  There's a lot of different ways a Marner trade to Seattle to go down, and after firing their head coach, it seems like the Kraken are headed for some big changes in order to try and get back into a playoff spot.

                                                                                  Potential fit.
                                                                                  SEA
                                                                                  26.
                                                                                  TOR
                                                                                    The Blues have 10 forwards, 5 d, and 2 goalies signed with no big names to re-sign and 15 million in cap space. They can definitely find a spot for Marner, especially with all their young assets and good roster players.

                                                                                    Like Seattle, the Blues could subtract from their defence, offence, and potentially even goaltending in a Marner trade. Some names that could be involved are Parayko, Buchnevich, Neighbours, etc. If the Blues are pushing to get back into a playoff spot, adding a big name like Marner could certainly help them with that.

                                                                                    Potential fit.
                                                                                    STL
                                                                                    27.
                                                                                    TOR
                                                                                      Same division contender, not a fit
                                                                                      TBL
                                                                                      28.
                                                                                      TOR
                                                                                        Vancouver is going into the offseason with about 23 million in cap space. However, they only have 10 forwards, 4d, and 1 goalie signed. They also need to re-sign Hronek.

                                                                                        Do they have the cap space for Marner? I actually think they could make him fit, but they would have to move some cap out (most likely one of Mikheyev or Garland). Imagine their top 6 with Marner... man would that be insane.

                                                                                        They do have some young assets they could move, along with a forward like Garland for example for Marner. I do believe they will try to prioritize defence first before making a big splash like that, but they could definitely consider it.

                                                                                        I'm gonna say low chance.
                                                                                        VAN
                                                                                        29.
                                                                                        TOR
                                                                                          Vegas has no cap space.

                                                                                          Not a fit
                                                                                          VGK
                                                                                          30.
                                                                                          TOR
                                                                                            The Captials time looks to have come to an end. I do believe that the only thing that matters to them now is Ovi passing Gretzky's record while he is still in Washington. He has two more years to do it. They also have very little cap space.

                                                                                            Imo, Washinton should start trading their veterans and rebuilding. Oshie and Kuemper are taking up too much of their cap space and I can't see Marner having a future there. IMO, Washinton shouldn't be targeting him regardless.

                                                                                            Not a fit.
                                                                                            WSH
                                                                                            31.
                                                                                            TOR
                                                                                              Winnipeg has 12 forwards, 4 d, and 1 goalie signed with 13 million in cap space heading into the offseason.

                                                                                              However, they have a lot of tradable contracts (Iafallo, Ehlers, Appleton, Namestnikov, Schmidt, Pionk).

                                                                                              They definitely have the assets to make a trade for Marner, and could look to make a big splash if they do get bounced by Colorado in the first round again.

                                                                                              Potential fit.
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                                                                                              29 avr. à 17 h 17
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                                                                                              Pretty accurate list but I would move NYI to low chance though. I could see a scenario where Sorokin or is swapped for him
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                                                                                              Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
                                                                                              Pretty accurate list but I would move NYI to low chance though. I could see a scenario where Sorokin or is swapped for him


                                                                                              I was debating it like I was 50/50 on that.
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                                                                                              Probably move the Blues down a tier for a few reasons

                                                                                              1) Blues value an overall balance in players, not just one 'star' player carrying the load
                                                                                              2) Blues wouldn't want to pay him 10+mil that he will probably be looking for. The Thomas/Kyrou contracts should be the benchmark of the most AAV for a few years at least
                                                                                              3) The asking price would be too high. Parayko certainly isn't available. Neither is Neighbours. Buch is a maybe there but we would love to resign him at a reasonable AAV.
                                                                                              4) If the Blues really wanted Marner, we'd just take the change on signing him as a UFA if he just walks from Toronto and no one ponies up the insane asking price
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                                                                                              Would much rather the Sabres take a shot at Tkachuk, that's what we need more than marner. It can't just be- which team has cap space and tons of assets to move.
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                                                                                              LA Kings is the only city I can say Marner would like.

                                                                                              Now would the team want to sign him as an UFA ?

                                                                                              No team is trading for him, if it's being well rumored that Leafs don't want him long term.

                                                                                              Give up assets or get him for free>?

                                                                                              The choice is easy.
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                                                                                              Jets would need an extension in place, not gambling assets without. Don’t believe marner coming to that table til next July
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                                                                                              Quoting: StDetroitBlueWings
                                                                                              Probably move the Blues down a tier for a few reasons

                                                                                              1) Blues value an overall balance in players, not just one 'star' player carrying the load
                                                                                              2) Blues wouldn't want to pay him 10+mil that he will probably be looking for. The Thomas/Kyrou contracts should be the benchmark of the most AAV for a few years at least
                                                                                              3) The asking price would be too high. Parayko certainly isn't available. Neither is Neighbours. Buch is a maybe there but we would love to resign him at a reasonable AAV.
                                                                                              4) If the Blues really wanted Marner, we'd just take the change on signing him as a UFA if he just walks from Toronto and no one ponies up the insane asking price


                                                                                              1) Making that argument is pretty flawed when you miss the playoffs, clearly they need to improve their roster
                                                                                              2) Sure but Devils fans tried to make the same argument about Hughes as the benchmark then they gave Meier 8.8M
                                                                                              3) Is the asking price too high? I imagine a package around Buch + Binnington is within reason
                                                                                              4) He almost certainly won't make it to UFA. As posted above there are more than enough fits out there and if he tries to hold the Leafs hostage with his NTC then it will destroy his reputation
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                                                                                              Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
                                                                                              1) Making that argument is pretty flawed when you miss the playoffs, clearly they need to improve their roster
                                                                                              2) Sure but Devils fans tried to make the same argument about Hughes as the benchmark then they gave Meier 8.8M
                                                                                              3) Is the asking price too high? I imagine a package around Buch + Binnington is within reason
                                                                                              4) He almost certainly won't make it to UFA. As posted above there are more than enough fits out there and if he tries to hold the Leafs hostage with his NTC then it will destroy his reputation


                                                                                              Blues are a tight run ship with this kind of stuff. We have never had that "star player" mentality. At least not under Army. That Meier contract was a mistake and I am willing to bet NJ wishes it were less. Plus the Blues are in a retool and do not intend on rushing it. Lastly, Buch plus other assets would maybe work, but not Binner, He's a Vezina caliber goalie that most likely will be here through the retool unless it's in a move that benefits the long term growth filling holes. Blues don't really need another winger with the likes of Bolduc, Snuggy, Kryrou, Buch and Neighbours already in the plans in the top 6.

                                                                                              Just don't see a Blues/Marner fit there contrary to your belief. Plus Marner doesn't play Blues hockey. Everyone saw the hate Kyrou was getting when he was playing soft. Got better throughout the year. Marner is even worse in that regard and would be hated by Blues fans. And if he has that "I'm a star so I play how I want" mentality, I, and I'm sure most Blues fans, don't want that around this team. Kyrou can be a headache at times, but he's at least improving in that aspect. From what I've seen (and clearly Toronto fans if they're constantly trying to trade him away) is he is soft as 10-ply and doesn't seem to care about playing physical when it matters

                                                                                              All view points are different. From the Blues perspective, we won't want Marner. Whether it's the asking price in a trade, his contract demands, nor the way he plays. Just simply not a fit
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                                                                                              I dont see Sabres going after him. His 90 pts would awesome to add, but he will too much to trade for and then being extended for 7 years.
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                                                                                              Quoting: StDetroitBlueWings
                                                                                              Blues are a tight run ship with this kind of stuff. We have never had that "star player" mentality. At least not under Army. That Meier contract was a mistake and I am willing to bet NJ wishes it were less. Plus the Blues are in a retool and do not intend on rushing it. Lastly, Buch plus other assets would maybe work, but not Binner, He's a Vezina caliber goalie that most likely will be here through the retool unless it's in a move that benefits the long term growth filling holes. Blues don't really need another winger with the likes of Bolduc, Snuggy, Kryrou, Buch and Neighbours already in the plans in the top 6.

                                                                                              Just don't see a Blues/Marner fit there contrary to your belief. Plus Marner doesn't play Blues hockey. Everyone saw the hate Kyrou was getting when he was playing soft. Got better throughout the year. Marner is even worse in that regard and would be hated by Blues fans. And if he has that "I'm a star so I play how I want" mentality, I, and I'm sure most Blues fans, don't want that around this team. Kyrou can be a headache at times, but he's at least improving in that aspect. From what I've seen (and clearly Toronto fans if they're constantly trying to trade him away) is he is soft as 10-ply and doesn't seem to care about playing physical when it matters

                                                                                              All view points are different. From the Blues perspective, we won't want Marner. Whether it's the asking price in a trade, his contract demands, nor the way he plays. Just simply not a fit


                                                                                              I doubt Florida fans saw Tkachuk as a fit because they had Huberdeau, until rumors started getting out. If we see that he's willing to waive to STL there will absolutely be a conversation. They are a team trying to move back into contention so there is absolutely a logical fit
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                                                                                              Quoting: draft_em_sign_em_trade_em
                                                                                              LA Kings is the only city I can say Marner would like.

                                                                                              Now would the team want to sign him as an UFA ?

                                                                                              No team is trading for him, if it's being well rumored that Leafs don't want him long term.

                                                                                              Give up assets or get him for free>?

                                                                                              The choice is easy.


                                                                                              It would depend on how much the Leafs retain and what the acquisition price is. With 50% retention a few teams likely would be willing to trade a late 1st + a sweetener for him. Even more teams if they find a third team to retain another 50%.
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                                                                                              I can definitely see the capitals looking into Marner especially with the newfound cap space and assets to use. Doubt Marner would waive tho. Would love to have him
                                                                                               
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