Sammy allows 3 goals a playoff game. That's his entire career and none of the goals against in game 3 looked great. He absolutely is a problem.

Average hockey game is 6 goals.
3 is an absolutely workable average. He isn't winning us this series by any means, but he isn't the issue

I would be more concerned with a 1/14 PP then Sammy lul

Or a 50% PK

Special teams and this teams inability to create offense is what's killing them not the goalie

TBL series last year be the example

Game 2 7-2
Game 3 4-3
Game 4 5-4
Game 6 2-1

PK 73% PP 25%

Yup, there’s no justification for starting Sammy in game 5. None at all

As for firing Keefe, I really don’t see any downside to that. Shanahan too

Average hockey game is 6 goals.
3 is an absolutely workable average. He isn't winning us this series by any means, but he isn't the issue

I would be more concerned with a 1/14 PP then Sammy lul

Or a 50% PK

Special teams and this teams inability to create offense is what's killing them not the goalie

TBL series last year be the example

Game 2 7-2
Game 3 4-3
Game 4 5-4
Game 6 2-1

PK 73% PP 25%

So far this series TOR goals

GM 1: 1
GM 2: 3 (Ullmark)
GM 3: 2
GM 4: 1

PK 53% PP 7%

Yeah if you pull up all the playoff series, the only one that we managed to win was when our special teams were above 100% combined (average)

Yeah the PP and PK need fixing too but Sammy is a problem as well and that's an easy fix.

You don't win the cup with a goalie allowing 3 goals a game. You don't. Not in this era anyways.

Sammy should never again see the crease for the Leafs. Doesn't matter how Woll does. 20+ games if the same thing from Sammy seals it all

Looking a bit ahead, the Leafs are currently likely to have the 22nd draft pick this year (23 if Vegas doesn't make the 3rd round).
I'm really hoping MBN falls to us there. How often do you get a chance to draft a Norwegian?

Again your missing it look at the TBL series who was in net?

Samsonov did the Leafs win with him in net yes even if he allowed 3 also yes why cause they were generating offense and their special teams were good

This team is struggling to score, it dont matter whose in net if their special teams and offense are as dry as the Sahara Desert

Even if Woll's in were still down 3-1 with this teams scoring issues lul

Georgiev was at 2.60 gaa when COL won. Vasi was at 2.52 the year prior. Hell even Binners big run to the cup was 2.46

3 is certainly the high end, and we could use improvement on that, but it isn't crazy

MBN screams riser to me. Seems like a guy who'll find up on the Wings or Caps. I'm super high on Michael Hage, he'd be an excellent Leaf. Maybe the leafs will add another pick via Marner trade...

Nope those numbers are wrong. First of all Kuemper was the goalie for the avs and still was under 3 a game. Sammy is over for his career. Vasi was 1.9 in both the years he won. No one wins with a 3+ gaa

Georgiev was at 2.60 gaa when COL won. Vasi was at 2.52 the year prior. Hell even Binners big run to the cup was 2.46

3 is certainly the high end, and we could use improvement on that, but it isn't crazy

Gonna go out on a limb here and say that Sammy hasn't been the issue. Him getting pulled last game was more a reflection of the team than it was of him. I don't think its gonna matter whether it is Sammy or Woll in net. If the skaters don't figure their **** out quickly we're gonna lose

I agree with you that he hasn’t been the main issue, and that it’s probably not going to make a difference. But you can’t start him again, not when he’s still been bad most of this series and Woll is right there. Makes no sense.

I am as guilty as anyone for being negative on this team. But today I woke up and decided to be positive. I think the game plan just won't ever work and really 3 of the core 4 are sick/hurt and how far does any team go with 3 of their stars hurt? Would Edmonton survive McDavid and Draisaitl hurt? Nope. How would Colorado do if MacKinnon, Makar and Rantanen were out?

Maybe Matthews gets healthy, Willy gets up to speed and Marner has a big game? That could swing some momentum towards to.

I think I'd prefer Woll, but I see the argument for Sammy and frankly I just don't care enough to get mad about it. We have much larger issues

In reply to Rip's comment. Just because Keefe hasn't announced the starting goalie to the media, doesn't mean he has told Woll or Samsonov. I'm hoping it's Woll tpp.

Dude, I'm literally pulling the numbers from CF. You're just wrong