Free Agent Splashes to Be Competitive

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Créé par: OldNYIfan

Équipe: 2024-25 Coyotes de l'Arizona

Date de création initiale: 25 avr. 2024

Publié: 25 avr. 2024

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Utah's new owner says that he and his wife want their team to be competitive right out of the box, so I expect them to aggressively pursue free agents in the off season. I don't expect them to be able to land any of the big names (Guentzel, Lindholm, Reinhart, Pesce, Roy) but I'll take Chandler Stephenson or Sean Monahan at $5.5 million for however many years they want and Jonathan Marchessault or Tyler Toffoli at $6 million for however many years they want. (If Utah can't land one of the latter, maybe they can sign Jake DeBrusk for up to $5 million.) Brady Skjei should like his number and term.

None of the current crop of free-agent goaltenders appealed to me, at least for Utah.

Toronto fans are always insisting that Timothy Liljegren is worth more than a second, so, here's twice that.

Utah puts an end to the previous regime's Barrett Hayton mistake; Habs fans keep telling everyone that Jordan Harris or Jayden Struble has to go. I'll take either.

A couple of recent first-round draft picks signed off the Reserve List even though I don't think that will happen this season; I'm just doing this so no one forgets who's in the pipeline.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

LISTE DE RÉSERVE		ANS	CAP HIT
But, Daniil		3	950 000 $
Simashev, Dmitri		3	950 000 $

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Durzi, Sean	7	6 000 000 $
Liljegren, Timothy	1	2 800 000 $
Kesselring, Michael	2	2 000 000 $
Moser, J.J.	2	2 000 000 $
Välimäki, Juuso	1	2 000 000 $
Söderström, Victor	2	1 300 000 $
Kelemen, Milos	2	850 000 $
Jeník, Jan	2	813 750 $
McCartney, Ben	2	813 750 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Skjei, Brady	5	6 500 000 $
Toffoli, Tyler	3	6 000 000 $
Stephenson, Chandler	5	5 500 000 $
O'Brien, Liam	2	950 000 $

CRÉÉ		ANS	CAP HIT
Buium, Zeev		3	975 000 $

Transactions

ARI

Liljegren, Timothy [Droits de RFA]

TOR

Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (FLA)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (TOR)

ARI

Struble, Jayden

MTL

Hayton, Barrett [Droits de RFA]

Rachats de contrats

Patrik Nemeth: 1 166 667 $
Zack Kassian: 766 667 $
Oliver Ekman-Larsson: 320 000 $

Enfoui

Victor Söderström: 150 000 $ (1 300 000 $)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2024
2025
2026

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	87 500 000 $	81 022 143 $	0 $	4 407 500 $	6 477 857 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Keller, Clayton 7 150 000 $7 150 000 $ AG, AD NTC UFA - 4	Stephenson, Chandler 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ C, AG UFA	Schmaltz, Nick 5 850 000 $5 850 000 $ AD, C M-NTC UFA - 2
Crouse, Lawson 4 300 000 $4 300 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 3	Cooley, Logan 950 000 $950 000 $ (3 500 000 $$4M) C RFA - 2	Toffoli, Tyler 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ AD, AG UFA
Maccelli, Matias 3 425 000 $3 425 000 $ AG RFA - 2	McBain, Jack 1 599 999 $1 599 999 $ C, AG RFA - 1	Guenther, Dylan 894 167 $894 167 $ (850 000 $$850K) AD, AG RFA - 1
Kerfoot, Alexander 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ AG, C, AD M-NTC UFA - 1	Bjugstad, Nick 2 100 000 $2 100 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1	Doan, Josh 925 000 $925 000 $ AD RFA - 2
Carcone, Michael 775 000 $775 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1
O'Brien, Liam 950 000 $950 000 $ AG, AD UFA

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Skjei, Brady 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ DG UFA	Durzi, Sean 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ DG/DD RFA	Vejmelka, Karel 2 725 000 $2 725 000 $ G UFA - 1
Välimäki, Juuso 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ DG RFA	Liljegren, Timothy 2 800 000 $2 800 000 $ DD RFA	Ingram, Connor 1 950 000 $1 950 000 $ G UFA - 2
Moser, J.J. 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ DG/DD RFA	Kesselring, Michael 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ DD RFA
Struble, Jayden 867 500 $867 500 $ (57 500 $$58K) DG RFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
	Weber, Shea 7 857 143 $7 857 143 $ DD UFA - 2

25 avr. à 23 h 45

DeclanLovesHockey

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As much as I love Lilly leafs would be stupid not to accept that

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25 avr. à 23 h 49

Random2152

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Quoting: DeclanLovesHockey

As much as I love Lilly leafs would be stupid not to accept that

Can't see any reason Lily would be worth less than Sandy. Being right handed should mean a better return.
Would look like:
2 early 2nds (top 40), both in same year
late 1st + late 2nd (dif years)

Besides, it isn't just a value issue. Why would the Leafs do this? How does this help them? We have been looking for RHD for years and now you want to jettison the homegrown one for picks?

25 avr. à 23 h 56

MontysPython

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Quoting: Random2152

flip the picks?

25 avr. à 23 h 57

Random2152

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Quoting: MontysPython

flip the picks?

For what? A young RHD?

25 avr. à 23 h 59

MontysPython

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Quoting: Random2152

For what? A young RHD?

a vet RHD with playoff experience`\/(••)\/`

26 avr. à 0 h 1

Random2152

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Quoting: MontysPython

a vet RHD with playoff experience`\/(••)\/`

And why would we need to move Liljegren for that exactly?
And more importantly, why wouldn't we just make that swap directly? Either in a 2 or 3 team deal?

It simply doesn't make sense. We need a boat. We have a boat and you're offering the mystery box

26 avr. à 1 h 11

Birtle34

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Will be interesting to see how quick geekie comes, much rather slot Maccelli and Guenther higher, possibly a spot to sell on Crouse and or schmaultz, like the Stephenson add, might be slotted a little high and maybe a little too much term, but solid add. Not sure toffoli is the right add here, little light on foot speed, very good streaky scorer, but his window may not extend long enough, good vet, but don’t want to block the kids coming. Could be one crazy summer here, with possibly moving some cap, ridiculous amount of cap to start with and abundance of picks also. Possibly a spot for a werenski or chabot to find a home, could get rather creative and possibly a laine home, but that’s a no agreement on here proposition.

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26 avr. à 6 h 24

jonh514

HuGo is a Boss GM

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Habs would be silly to refuse that offer!

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26 avr. à 7 h 7

GuyGuyGuy

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Quoting: Random2152

There’s one huge reason, age. Liljegren is 25 while Sandin was 22. Both are pretty much the same talent, but Sandin can actually develop in something more. Liljegren won’t improve unless there’s a massive surprise. The best trade comp is Siegenthaler to New Jersey for a third, so Toronto would be lucky to get a late second for him

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26 avr. à 8 h 43

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DeclanLovesHockey

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Quoting: Random2152

The problem is that Liljegren is in no mans land between a good third pairing dman and a mediocre second pairing dman. I don't see his ceiling being much higher than that. The Leafs can't afford to pay him second pair money when he's giving us third pair results. The 2nds can be used to make a cost-effective TDL move or draft talent like Knies, who becomes cap-controlled on an ELC. To use your metaphor, we would have to overpay for a leaky boat when we could jump ship and swim a short distance to several sturdier, cheaper boats.

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26 avr. à 15 h 27

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Random2152

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Quoting: GuyGuyGuy

Theyre like the same age lmao.

And Lily is actually playing top 4 mins. While sandy at the trade was only a 3rd pair D

26 avr. à 15 h 29

#12

Random2152

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Quoting: DeclanLovesHockey

The dude is keefes most played D when we are trying to hold a lead, and also while were trailing. He also has been putting up strong results.

I think the issue here is just that your eval is off lmao

26 avr. à 16 h 43

#13

DeclanLovesHockey

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Quoting: Random2152

Theyre like the same age lmao.

And Lily is actually playing top 4 mins. While sandy at the trade was only a 3rd pair D

Yeah he plays top 4 mins on a team that uses Ilya Lyubushkin as a top pairing defenseman... Where he plays in the lineup is irrelevant, the fact of the matter is he just isn't as good as we need a top 4 dman to be on this team and he's not gonna magically improve into one. This is coming from a guy who likes Lilly and wishes we could sign him to a 4 x 2.5 AAV. His skillset is a dime a dozen: pretty good offensively, ok defensively, not that physical. Only thing that is valuable is his right shot.

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26 avr. à 17 h 17

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GuyGuyGuy

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Quoting: Random2152

Theyre like the same age lmao.

And Lily is actually playing top 4 mins. While sandy at the trade was only a 3rd pair D

Liljegren just turned 25. Sandin was 22 at the time of the trade. Shows your hockey knowledge there.

Liljegren play top 4 minutes, but boy is he bad in those minutes. Sandin was mostly playing bottom pairing minutes, but he was good in those

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26 avr. à 17 h 22

#15

Random2152

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Quoting: DeclanLovesHockey

Boosh is not being played as a top pair D lmao. That you even think that shows you have no idea what you're talking about

26 avr. à 17 h 22

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Random2152

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Quoting: GuyGuyGuy

Sandy and Lily are currently the same age. Pay attention.
And Lily has been good in T-4 mins. Thinking otherwise shows your lack of knowledge

26 avr. à 17 h 29

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DeclanLovesHockey

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Quoting: Random2152

Sandy and Lily are currently the same age. Pay attention.
And Lily has been good in T-4 mins. Thinking otherwise shows your lack of knowledge

Ah yes he's been so good that he's not even in the lineup for Game 4. Imagine being so bad your spot gets taken by TJ Brodie...

26 avr. à 17 h 39

#18

DeclanLovesHockey

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Quoting: Random2152

Boosh is not being played as a top pair D lmao. That you even think that shows you have no idea what you're talking about

https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/teams/toronto-maple-leafs/line-combinations - top pair is typically the pair at the top, correct?

26 avr. à 17 h 46

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Random2152

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Quoting: DeclanLovesHockey

https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/teams/toronto-maple-leafs/line-combinations - top pair is typically the pair at the top, correct?

If you think a lineup card denotes usage. You're opinion on anything hockey is worthless

26 avr. à 17 h 52

#20

DeclanLovesHockey

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Quoting: Random2152

If you think a lineup card denotes usage. You're opinion on anything hockey is worthless

Why you heff to be mad? Just game man

26 avr. à 17 h 54

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GM_SZK

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Wow if they gave two 5ths for Liljegren I would be shocked, how could that even slightly move the needle?

I do agree with you that they will be aggressive but far more aggressive than what you have.

26 avr. à 17 h 57

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MontysPython

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Quoting: Random2152

some teams don't want a Liljegren and want a pick. Not saying this acgm is ideal, but it's true that some teams don't want a Liljegren. Anyway, just trying to rationalize this acgm's reasoning.

26 avr. à 17 h 59

#23

OldNYIfan

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Quoting: GM_SZK

Wow if they gave two 5ths for Liljegren I would be shocked, how could that even slightly move the needle?

I do agree with you that they will be aggressive but far more aggressive than what you have.

Get your ocular prescription checked. It's two seconds.

26 avr. à 18 h 4

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GM_SZK

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

Get your ocular prescription checked. It's two seconds.

Well my vision is awful but what did I do lol I thought fora minute I had a goofy typo?

The poster traded for two seconds and I countered with I would be surprised if they gave two fifths

Please explain?

26 avr. à 18 h 11

#25

OldNYIfan

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Quoting: GM_SZK

Liljegren has some value. I think that two seconds is probably high but I wanted to pre-empt the outraged screams of Toronto homers claiming he's as good as Bowen Byram. (One such in particular has said that he's worth two top-40 picks.) I thought your comment was criticizing me for saying that he was only worth two fifths.

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