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Créé par: zk97
Équipe: 2024-25 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 18 avr. 2024
Publié: 18 avr. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
1800 000 $
31 875 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
18 000 000 $
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MTL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (CGY)
Détails additionnels:
Matheson-Weegar
Kylington-Andersson
whoever-whoever
CGY
  1. Matheson, Michael
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (WPG)
Détails additionnels:
I wonder about a trade like this for CGY, who might hope to be back in the playoffs next season if they play their cards right in a weak western conference. This trade will happen if they can swap Markstrom and the WPG pick for the Devils' 10OA pick (and probably a 2nd), which means that they essentially swapped Markstrom for Matheson and dropping one spot in the draft + receiving a pick in the late 40s/early 50s
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MTL
CGY
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (MTL)
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (CGY)
Détails additionnels:
5OA: Ivan Demidov
9OA: Berkly Catton
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MTL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2026 (ARI)
Détails additionnels:
Moser-Durzi
Valimaki-Kesselring
Harris-Soderstrom
ARI
  1. Harris, Jordan
Détails additionnels:
Bottom 4 dman for Utah
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MTL
ARI
    Skjei signed to be a stopgap for Guhle and Hutson, once Guhle is ready for first pair minutes you can trade Skjei
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    18 avr. à 17 h 35
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    GO FLAMES GO
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    Calgary should keep the pick. They don't need to rush this Rebuild retool, whatever it is. They need #1 guys in multiple positions, none available where Winnipeg's pick is going to be IMO
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    Quoting: Gmonwy
    Calgary should keep the pick. They don't need to rush this Rebuild retool, whatever it is. They need #1 guys in multiple positions, none available where Winnipeg's pick is going to be IMO


    And with NJD suggestion, I suggested Markstrom and Vancouver's pick(which probably isn't going to be to much later) for NJD 1st. Don't see it happening eithet
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    The fly in this ointment is thinking that the Devils are going to give up the tenth overall pick in this year's draft (never mind plus a second that they don't even own right now) for Markstrom and a pick in the mid-twenties. And the Calgary pick could be eighth overall, depending upon what happens tonight.

    Nine of the top 14 teams in the League are from the "weak Western Conference," and two more (plus potentially Seattle) finished ahead of the Flames this season.
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    Matheson doesn't even come close to getting you from pick ~#25 to pick #9.

    Brutal offer

    Also weak western conference? The West has won the last 2 cups and all the teams at the top look like Juggernauts. Right now the West is way stronger than the East
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    Matheson doesn't even come close to getting you from pick ~#25 to pick #9.

    Brutal offer

    Also weak western conference? The West has won the last 2 cups and all the teams at the top look like Juggernauts. Right now the West is way stronger than the East


    Awful take on Matheson.
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    Quoting: SLAFSQUATCH
    Awful take on Matheson.


    Oh really? You think someone would give up a valuable asset for him just because he racked up a bunch of points on the man advantage? Last I checked Gostisbehere only returned a 3rd and same with Gustafsson after his 60 point season. He probably won't be on your 1st PP unit next season and will have at most 30 points. I don't blame Habs fans for trying to sell high on him but anyone with any sort of understanding of hockey knows he is a liability at 5v5
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    Oh really? You think someone would give up a valuable asset for him just because he racked up a bunch of points on the man advantage? Last I checked Gostisbehere only returned a 3rd and same with Gustafsson after his 60 point season. He probably won't be on your 1st PP unit next season and will have at most 30 points. I don't blame Habs fans for trying to sell high on him but anyone with any sort of understanding of hockey knows he is a liability at 5v5


    Awsome take. We should close hockey and just listen to you. Congrats on your superiority and supremeness.
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    Awsome take. We should close hockey and just listen to you. Congrats on your superiority and supremeness.


    So your argument is nothing? You call my take trash and then when I prove it right you revert to insults?
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    Quoting: SLAFSQUATCH
    Awful take on Matheson.


    Legitimately insane takes on Matheson here. Matheson ALONE is worth #9. I can’t even believe there’s people arguing that. He literally plays the top 5 hardest minutes in the league while being top 10 in points. On a steal of a contract for 2 more years. Like come on.
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    So your argument is nothing? You call my take trash and then when I prove it right you revert to insults?


    Why argue? I disagree. You can't prove an opinion. And I know better than to engage with the likes of you. Enjoy!
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    Quoting: westcoasthabslifer
    Legitimately insane takes on Matheson here. Matheson ALONE is worth #9. I can’t even believe there’s people arguing that. He literally plays the top 5 hardest minutes in the league while being top 10 in points. On a steal of a contract for 2 more years. Like come on.


    EA pro's know best. He wasn't as good in NHL2022. So he's a flash in the pan. Not enough x-factor icons.
    18 avr. à 19 h 8
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    Quoting: SLAFSQUATCH
    Why argue? I disagree. You can't prove an opinion. And I know better than to engage with the likes of you. Enjoy!


    Sure I can.

    5v5 out of ~250 defensemen that have played at least 300 minutes he ranks 2nd in SCA and 13th is SCA/60, he ranks 24th in xGA/60 and 9th is CA/60. Despite having 62 points this season only has 21 points at 5v5 and 29 points on the PP, despite playing over 1100 more minutes at 5v5. his other 12 points are split between 6v5, 5v6, and PK.
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    Sure I can.

    5v5 out of ~250 defensemen that have played at least 300 minutes he ranks 2nd in SCA and 13th is SCA/60, he ranks 24th in xGA/60 and 9th is CA/60. Despite having 62 points this season only has 21 points at 5v5 and 29 points on the PP, despite playing over 1100 more minutes at 5v5. his other 12 points are split between 6v5, 5v6, and PK.


    ..and how many games did you watch of the 26th overall Canadiens with a minus 53 goal diff??
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    18 avr. à 19 h 22
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    Quoting: westcoasthabslifer
    Legitimately insane takes on Matheson here. Matheson ALONE is worth #9. I can’t even believe there’s people arguing that. He literally plays the top 5 hardest minutes in the league while being top 10 in points. On a steal of a contract for 2 more years. Like come on.


    this is a bit excessive, I'd say he's worth around a 12-17 pick
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    ..and how many games did you watch of the 26th overall Canadiens with a minus 53 goal diff??


    I watched my fair share of games. The issue is outside of Savard all of the Habs defensemen did quite a bit better than him.

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    this is a bit excessive, I'd say he's worth around a 12-17 pick


    Quoting: westcoasthabslifer
    Legitimately insane takes on Matheson here. Matheson ALONE is worth #9. I can’t even believe there’s people arguing that. He literally plays the top 5 hardest minutes in the league while being top 10 in points. On a steal of a contract for 2 more years. Like come on.


    Lmao nobody is giving you a top 50 pick for him without retention. Maybe some dumb GM will toss you a late 2nd then quickly regret it like Detroit did with Leddy.
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    I watched my fair share of games. The issue is outside of Savard all of the Habs defensemen did quite a bit better than him.


    Lmao nobody is giving you a top 50 pick for him without retention. Maybe some dumb GM will toss you a late 2nd then quickly regret it like Detroit did with Leddy.



    Okie Dokie. Keep posting 20 comments a day, you might get something right.
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    19 avr. à 0 h 35
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    Quoting: SLAFSQUATCH
    Okie Dokie. Keep posting 20 comments a day, you might get something right.


    Man you couldn’t even muster one singular argument to disprove anything ledge said, you got cooked buddy 😬
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    Quoting: Ansabch12
    Man you couldn’t even muster one singular argument to disprove anything ledge said, you got cooked buddy 😬


    Only fools think interaction about hockey on a board have any merit. Enjoy!
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