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Draft day

Créé par: aldore
Équipe: 2024-25 Blues de St-Louis
Date de création initiale: 15 avr. 2024
Publié: 16 avr. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Pick #16. That first wave of good defensemen is gone and we’re early for the second. Realistically could pick here but I want a defensemen(or a few) in one of those groups. Or both!
I know Buffalo is gonna say overpay and no and so are other blues fans so this is what would make me happy.
Transactions
1.
STL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
Détails additionnels:
10th, Draft Zeev Buium, Carter Yakemchuck, or any of that first wave of D men that will be gone by our pick but will be available at 10OA
NJD
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (STL)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (NYR)
Détails additionnels:
16th, 56th, 96th
2.
STL
PIT
    Do that, or
    3.
    STL
    1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
    2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (ANA)
    Détails additionnels:
    25th and 35th
    Draft 3 of Leo Sahlin Wallenius, Henry Mews, Charlie Elick, Alfons Freji, Dominik Badinka, EJ Emery with these two and our second
    ANA
      Blues 1st- 16th OA
      Rags 3rd - 96th OA
      4.
      STL
      PIT
        Or draft Jiricek at 16
        5.
        STL
        1. Kulich, Jiri
        2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (BUF)
        Détails additionnels:
        Or do this trade and then use our pick to trade back and do both!
        BUF
        1. Buchnevich, Pavel (2 900 000 $ retained)
        2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (STL)
        3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (STL)
        Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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        2026
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        TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
        2083 500 000 $72 591 428 $0 $412 500 $10 908 572 $
        Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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        8 125 000 $8 125 000 $
        C, AD
        UFA - 7
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        8 125 000 $8 125 000 $
        AD
        UFA - 7
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        4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
        AG, AD
        NTC
        UFA - 2
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        6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
        C, AG
        NTC
        UFA - 4
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        1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
        AD, C
        UFA - 2
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        1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
        AG, AD
        RFA - 1
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        3 571 429 $3 571 429 $
        C
        M-NTC
        UFA - 2
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        863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance412 500 $$412K)
        AG
        RFA - 2
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        852 500 $852 500 $
        C
        RFA - 2
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        835 833 $835 833 $
        AG, AD
        RFA - 1
        Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
        918 333 $918 333 $
        C, AG
        RFA - 2
        Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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        6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
        DG
        NTC
        UFA - 3
        Logo de Blues de St-Louis
        6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
        DD
        NTC
        UFA - 3
        Logo de Blues de St-Louis
        6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
        G
        M-NTC
        UFA - 3
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        775 000 $775 000 $
        AG
        UFA - 2
        Logo de Blues de St-Louis
        6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
        DD
        NTC
        UFA - 6
        Logo de Blues de St-Louis
        775 000 $775 000 $
        G
        RFA - 1
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        4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
        DG
        NTC
        UFA - 2
        Logo de Blues de St-Louis
        800 000 $800 000 $
        DD
        RFA - 2
        Logo de Blues de St-Louis
        800 000 $800 000 $
        DG/DD
        RFA - 1

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        16 avr. à 23 h 28
        #1
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        I've been hoping the Flames draft badinka with their 2nd mostly because his names fun to say lol
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        16 avr. à 23 h 28
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        all for that buchnevich trade but i just cant see him waiving and signing an extension, and they cant give up kulich and 11th for a guy who will walk in a year.
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        16 avr. à 23 h 30
        #3
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        aldore
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        Quoting: Stadel
        all for that buchnevich trade but i just cant see him waiving and signing an extension, and they cant give up kulich and 11th for a guy who will walk in a year.


        Maybe he sees how close you guys are to being competitive for a long time and decides to go for it! I think it makes a lot of sense for both teams
        16 avr. à 23 h 30
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        Of all these options, #1 and #4 seem both most feasible and most appetizing. #5 seems super optimistic and trading down is not really appealing. I think I'd rather trade the pick for a young vet D who fits the mold than trade down.

        I mean, if you could promise we'd definitely get Freij and Skahan, I'd say okay. But that's impossible to promise.
        16 avr. à 23 h 31
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        Quoting: aldore
        Maybe he sees how close you guys are to being competitive for a long time and decides to go for it! I think it makes a lot of sense for both teams


        ehhh, id love it if he believed that, but its a reach lol. 12 team no trade i assume will wipe out that small markets. At this point hes probably angling for a team that can lock him in for 8 years and give him his salary mostly in signing bonuses. I dont mind an 8 year risk, but ownership isnt going to pay him in bonuses unfortunately.
        16 avr. à 23 h 51
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        Can't see the devils trading away a pick that would be a LHD like Buium when LHD is their biggest need long term besides goalie
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        17 avr. à 0 h 12
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        All of these draft scenarios have little chance of occurring by definition, since there are an almost limitless number of permutations and combinations, including but not limited to who's on the board where. Here's one that strikes me is a little closer to reality than New Jersey giving up #10:

        Carter Yakemchuk is rated the 11th overall North American prospect. Suppose 9 of the 10 youngsters rated ahead of him (and note that Carter Eiserman is rated #12), and four of the 6 top-rated European prospects are selected. There sits San Jose with their second pick in the first round. I think it would be a lot easier to persuade the Sharks to move back a couple of places than the Devils. And if Pittsburgh's pick turns out to be #13 instead of #14, it shouldn't take much more to convince them. (The Toronto second should be enough in either case.)
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        17 avr. à 2 h 18
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        Quoting: aldore
        Maybe he sees how close you guys are to being competitive for a long time and decides to go for it! I think it makes a lot of sense for both teams


        Even if (and that’s a big IF) Buchnevich was:
        1- willing to come here
        and
        2- willing to sign a long term extension

        Idk that the Sabres are even looking to add a bacon tract like that??
        I’d say it’s likely that we are not


        It just seems like a very unlikely deal to happen in real life
        17 avr. à 3 h 52
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        Modifié 17 avr. à 10 h 42
        Quoting: OldNYIfan
        All of these draft scenarios have little chance of occurring by definition, since there are an almost limitless number of permutations and combinations, including but not limited to who's on the board where. Here's one that strikes me is a little closer to reality than New Jersey giving up #10:

        Carter Yakemchuk is rated the 11th overall North American prospect. Suppose 9 of the 10 youngsters rated ahead of him (and note that Carter Eiserman is rated #12), and four of the 6 top-rated European prospects are selected. There sits San Jose with their second pick in the first round. I think it would be a lot easier to persuade the Sharks to move back a couple of places than the Devils. And if Pittsburgh's pick turns out to be #13 instead of #14, it shouldn't take much more to convince them. (The Toronto second should be enough in either case.)


        For starters, I dont go by Central Scouting. They always have a few kooky things going on. More to the actual point, I don't think Yakemchuk falling to #14 is realistic. Buffalo grabbing him feels like the absolute latest. Also, a 2nd is kinda steep for two mid-round places, no?

        But above all that, I don't think Yakemchuk is what they're after. And if they think they can get Jiricek at 16 without giving anything up, I'm guessing he's their designated RD consolation prize choice.

        What they are almost certainly after is Dickinson or Buium or Silayev. I think. Fairly sure.

        I would only select Parekh to trade him for a Buffalo or Ottawa or Detroit haul.

        But above all that jibber jabber, I think this summer is unusually ripe for trading up. After the first 5-6, it drops to a level where there's very little difference between #7 or 8 and about #14 or 15 or 16. And while this draft class is quite heavy with strong D prospects, a bunch of the lottery teams are already pretty deep to holy crap theyre loaded deep with young Dmen.

        It's kinduva perfect trade up for a Dman storm.
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        17 avr. à 7 h 17
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        We would want to move up further than 16OA

        Anyways 25 & 35 get us higher than 16 value wise
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        17 avr. à 9 h 32
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        Quoting: GeneralLandro
        We would want to move up further than 16OA

        Anyways 25 & 35 get us higher than 16 value wise


        Yeah, maybe to 15. According to Puckpedia, that 16 for 25 and 35 is actually pretty much spot on. And that 3rd coming to your way just makes it better for you.

        Not saying they are the Holy Bible of these things, but nice tool to check these kind of things.
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        17 avr. à 14 h 45
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        I'm all for trading up, but if we are going to trade Buch, I hope we get a better return than that.
         
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