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Forum: Armchair-GM15 avr. à 23 h 29
Sujet: If Doug didnt panic after the cup
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PuckShmuck87</b></div><div>I like what you've done here. I think that id also bring Barbashev back.

With regards to Petro, I believe that you're absolutely correct. Armstrong brought Faulk over within weeks of winning the Cup because he was not going to get a deal done with Petro. The message was loud and clear. There were not enough minutes or dollars to support 3 high end RHD and Parayko wasn't going anywhere. Petro, and his agent, knew they were getting jerked around, got pissed off and left. DA appears to have made a feeble attempt to mend the fence and extend Petro when Faulk had a poor showing in his first year with the Blues. But it was too little, too late.

Giving Dunn away for nothing was utter folly. They should have left Krug unprotected. Seattle was not going to take that terrible contract off your hands anyway.

Nice job.</div></div>

Thanks man, IMO signing Petro definitely would have meant no krug. And don’t have Barby cause I assume he’d have been taken instead if our 3 protected D in 2021 (Petro, Dunn, Parayko) D left unprotected would have been walman, bortuzzo, maybe Edmund on in this scenario since we wouldn’t have traded for Faulk, potentially scandella alrought id prefer to have not signed him after we traded for him cause the Bowmeister going down. Think they’d pick Barby or Vladdy. Either way, hard to make the money work at this point.
Forum: Armchair-GM15 avr. à 16 h 7
Sujet: If Doug didnt panic after the cup
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>drambui</b></div><div>pietrangelo wanted to leave. Dunn was gone trough expantion draft, you would have lost a dman either way.

I guess you could have resigned o'reilly. not sure if he wanted to, but you traded him to have more youth too.</div></div>

Petro wanted to stay, at the time I think there were reports it could have been done for $8,500,000. The issue was he wanted a full NTC and Doug didn’t want to give him it for all 8 years. And in this scenario, we don’t trade for Faulk after we do win the cup and then we don’t have the 2 “top 4” right D making it seem like we are okay to let our best player (Petro) leave. If we kept Petro, we don’t sign krug or have Faulk. We protect Dunn, Petro, and Parakyo. In that scenario, Seattle likely would have gone with Tarasenko or Barbashev. And then for the youth thing, that was kind of the point in this was keep our stars and embrace our young guys. We would integrate both and ROR at 1 million more makes a lot more sense to me than Hayes at 3.5mil.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tsmash</b></div><div>Dunn was never doing to be as good as he is now if he stayed in stl and the same is probably true for walman and Mikkola.</div></div>

Why not? The advanced analytics were there on Dunn we were just reluctant to give the younger guys more chance. If we don’t have the older guys in the way, Dunn has to be the top pair LD and I think he would have definitely steppped up to it. He may not be the 1 pp guy cause petro but he wouldn’t have to be #1. He would have been the #2/3 with parayko. And for walman and mikkola, I think both looked solid. When we traded walman for leddy, it was clear to me at least that walman was better but “didn’t have enough experience” so instead we throw in sunny and a second to downgrade. In this scenario, 2020 and 2021 may have been slight down years as those guys developed but they would have been better this yeah and last year. Blues this team has better contract structure and more youth throughout the roster. Basically my point in all this was we didn’t have to have a bottom 5 D core in the league with the worst D core contract situation.
Forum: Armchair-GM15 mars à 17 h 42
Sujet: Change
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AC14</b></div><div>Would guess the player wouldn't have much interest either. Not going to be an overly competitive team. The idea probably with the 1 year signing this season was to restore some value from the past injury seasons while being on an extremely competitive team. I just don't see someone giving away one or two of their prime years on a higher AAV offer unless it's stupidly high vs. mitigating risk by signing a longer term deal elsewhere.</div></div>

And I thought 7m was stupid high for him. But I do understand the character thing, especially as we’re trying to bring up young guys and recalibrate a bit. He’s not exactly gonna help. Again just thinking a top 6ish forward will have some value at 3.5 for the year for teams.
Forum: Armchair-GM15 mars à 14 h 36
Sujet: Change
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>littlejerryseinfeld</b></div><div>I mean I didn't even see any mention of an extension for buchnevich. Kulich is above savoie and goalies area whole different animal.

We aren't a winger away from contending for the cup.</div></div>

Was using Scott wheelers rankings where he has savoie above Kulich. And that’s true but if all the youth takes a step next year, a veteran winger certainly helps. Need tage to get back to how he looked. You guys might end up making the playoffs this year and a player like buch would undoubtly help your case. But that’s fair, if there’s no deal here there’s no deal. Just figure you’re a team on the fringe with a ton of youth that you could deal. Makes sense to me but I don’t follow you guys religiously so what do I know.
Forum: Armchair-GM15 mars à 14 h 21
Sujet: Change
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>I'm not opposed to a Zadorov move for a couple years, but that's too much money. On the other hand, super hard mega extreme pass on Bertuzzi, and again. He's worth nowhere near that money. But most of all, I don't understand why we'd want him. We don't need somebody blocking all the young wingers. Let alone that head case.

Where are all the kids, man?</div></div>

The idea with the FA was overpay so they sign these short term deals and flip them for more assets. Thinking with Bertuzzi, retain half and if he’s playing well get a second and prospect for him? Basically trying to buy assets. Thinking we could flip Bert early too and let the kids play. Like I said, start the kids in the A and move them up forsure. I bet Snuggy will be RW 2 by the end of the season and start 2025 as RW1. But yeah, definitely want the kids to start playing in a low pressure environment so they can develop well
Forum: Armchair-GM15 juin 2023 à 17 h 0
Sujet: not bad
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>First of all, I'm not being a dick and I'm not s***ting on you, nor do I recall preaching for kindness or whatever.

As for the pessimism, you said we need three years to fix the LD mess, if we try to fix it too fast we'll be mediocre for 10 years, that if we do it we buy a year or two then crumble, Parayko is the only way to get a decent return, his contract will end up bad, etc. So like anything we do that isn't a three-year plan will bomb and fail and crash and burn and we'll be buried for years (as if a three-year plan is magically foolproof or something). Sorry, but this team is not far from the one that gave Colorado it's toughest opposition on the way to their Cup last spring. And now that we have a coach for the D and the PK, even if we change nothing, they will probably bounce back fairly well. There is a way to tidy things up and carry on being competitive every year. And I'd certainly rather try that first before panic selling and planning to throw three prime years of Thomas/Buch/Kyrou/etc. and the last good years of Schenn/Faulk/Parayko/etc. away on purpose.

It's all in the execution and probably a little luck, just like in summer '18. Find a way to move one of Krug or Leddy or hell even Scandella with minimum pain and give Colt a proper partner finally, and the whole outlook changes. Just from that. But any way you slice it and any plan you want, this is a bad return for Parayko. And even if you think it's not a bad return, you cannot possibly think it's the best return we could get. Hell, this isn;t close to the best return we could get from Buffalo.</div></div>

I wasn’t saying the a 3 year turn around is the only way. I said that’s what I want to do. Krug and leddy aren’t just gonna move. It’s going to cost you one of our firsts or something to do that considering they both have full NMC. We’re tight against the cap which we think is gonna go up but with the current CBA and Bettman holding escrow over the players heads, I don’t see the 90 million thing happening right away. A different partner for parayko would certainly help. It’s just a lot of moving pieces and holes this team has to put together a championship caliber team. In 18’, we missed the playoffs because we lost the last game of the year. We were out of contention with like 20 games left this year. We had the space, albeit the ROR trade created some of that space, to sign a big FA like Bozak and bolster. I think we could maybe do it for a year or 2 but not without spending most of our futures and I think we’d be left in a bad place. Again, this is a difference in options. I’m making like 3 ACGM right now that range from full rebuild, as you’ve already seen to a retool to a try and be immediately competitive. That one is definitely the hardest.