Oh come on

We don't want him that bad

It’s OK to say no. I expect it. I’m just struggling with a package I would take that they would offer

It’s certainly not the 2024 first and a third. It’s a 9 player draft and you have the 10th pick. Good prospect is probably available, but I’m OK moving to an Ullmark deal

I guess they only trade swayman if they feel they cant reach a contract they want or wask for a trade.

If either scenario happens you are trading from a positions of weakness, so you probably dont get what you want. so you wont get a 1c for him. (what you want dont really matter too but you know that)

Or everyone is happy and they keep swayman.

Young goalies the caliber of Swayman get signed. Looking forward to the stupidity of trades involving him being done. It’s just like the Byfield deals. They will hopefully stop when he signs the extension

oh i agree. Im just stating the scenarios in which that wouldnt happen. im not behind the curtain so i dont know the situation. i think its likely he signs.

NJD is in a tie for 9th rn. If we finish worse than buffalo we get 9th

It's also not prime Connor Hellybyuck, Andrei Vasilevski, or MAF

corey schneider (a top 10 statistical goaltender of all time) was traded for the 9th overall pick. a 1st and 3rd is probably a good value trade, depending on exactly where the 1st falls

I don't see Swayman being moved under any circumstance.

Goalies don’t carry as much value as skaters due to the unpredictability and crazy nature of the position. Swayman might get a bit more value than other goalies like Markstrom or Gibson due to being younger and an expiring RFA, but likely not more than 2 1sts. A 1st and 3rd has been about the benchmark for a desperate team in need of a starter. Great example would be the Kuemper trade to Colorado.

Schneider to NJ also seems like a great comp if Swayman gets moved

this is a completely reasonable take. notice, he didn't say, "this is a fair value trade," he said, "this is what it would take." I agree with him. The bruins have no reason to move Swayman or Poitras unless they're getting something franchise altering in return.

Or if Swayman, like so many others who have been through arbitration, doesn't want to resign

If Ullmark had a 9 year, 8.6 AAV contract (as a % of cap) with with a 5 team trade list and Boston had about 6m to sign 6 or 7 players, I’m sure they’d have a different position on trading Swayman.

The circumstances are not the same. If they were, maybe the Bruins would be more willing to trade Swayman. Does Vancouver’s GM even consider trading Schneider if Luongo’s contract wasn’t viewed the way it was?



Certainly not the narrative coming from his agent and even if it did play out, what makes you think they’d trade him within the conference?

Statistically, he has a similar GSax /60 as Hellebuyck over the past two years. Compare them at the same age and . Swayman’s profile is better. Athleticallty, he profiles about the same as well.

My perspective is Boston has a young Connor Hellebuyck in goal. Why would they trade him for a pick where the failure rate is actually reasonable high? They’d want proven players.

The irony is people talk about the inconsistency of goalies and then try to trade Dawson Mercer for Jeremy Swayman. In terms of consistency, whose better?

that's pretty overblown.

The history on guys who go through arbitration and stay long term is pretty grim

I understand where you're coming from but even suggesting Hischier is ridiculous, goalies are weird and collapse randomly top line Cs especially ones who get selke votes are just not available for trade.

My guess is Boston signs Lindholm and trades Ullmark.

The Swayman deals being presented by Jersey fans (whom I like) are unrealistic and viewed off hopes and wishes. Go buy a lottery ticket. You can win. Probably similar odds. The irony is a lot of fans flag the erratic nature of goaltenders and yet most offers include the erratic Mercer for the consistent Swayman.

Disregarding both the player and the agent statements seems odd.

How many players as good as Hischier are OK being relegated to a 2C role through their career? How long until he starts pushing for a different city ? I don’t believe he can actually like playing second fiddle to Hughes.



please note this whole thread is a sarcastic response to another terrible Swayman to NJ deal.

Pretty grim seems like an overstatement. Good players leave bad teams all the time

I agree the swayman deals are ridiculous unless he forces his way out its not happening. And I get it people on here are very dumb the amount of premium assets I see get asked for Markstrom daily is absurd.

I don’t blame Jersey fans for wanting Swayman and hoping a conspiracy theory makes him available for a lower price than a young player that has performed as good as he has is worth.

Pointing to Schneider as a baseline is interesting, but Vancouver was in a dire cap position when they made that deal. Ultimately, Swayman fits the Pasta/McAvoy timeline better unless a team makes it worth Boston’s time to look at things differently. With the failure rate of picks in the 9 to 15 range, I don’t believe that is it

It does make much more sense to keep him over Ullmark you'd be a fool to think otherwise which is why I said what I said unless Swayman wants out he stays and that's just how its gonna be. A deal with Ullmark to the devils makes sense though I just don't know what the price would be not many comparable other than Fleury to Chicago who was much older at the time

Ullmark comp would be Kuemper. But there likely won’t be retention so I’d expect the price to be smaller slightly.