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Créé par: Anus_McLeod

Équipe: 2024-25 Avalanche du Colorado

Date de création initiale: 3 avr. 2024

Publié: 3 avr. 2024

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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-I think Pittsburgh is almost certainly going to chase some veteran talent. RD isn't their top need, but a defenseman with Manson's particular attributes is arguably up there. POJ seems to be expendable, and his next deal will be cheap. The Avs can let him and Johnson battle it out for the final spot in their D. But the main goals for Colorado are moving out money that can be used for Walker and getting the pick, which can be flipped to facilitate the next trade.

I'm not married to the Pens with respect to the Manson move. Just thinking they might be interested, but obviously I could be wrong.

-Montreal has Reinbacher and Barron knocking at the door. I feel like getting a second for a guy they claimed off waivers would be a good victory and would give them trade capital to chase a larger acquisition. The Avs get a big guy on the back end who is affordable and who brings a different skillset than the rest of their D.

-Colton adds a new element to Buffalo's bottom/middle six, which I personally think would do their team a fair amount of good. The Sabres have a lot of young forwards, but some aren't ready, and none seem to be in the vein of a Ross Colton. The Avs likely don't want to move Colton, but they get cap space that they need for Mittelstadt and a guy they hope can benefit from a change in scenery in Krebs. I legitimately feel like this is a good trade for both teams, but that's just my humble opinion.

Let me know your thoughts.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

LISTE DE RÉSERVE		ANS	CAP HIT
Behrens, Sean		2	950 000 $
Ritchie, Calum		3	950 000 $

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Mittelstadt, Casey	5	6 000 000 $
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier	1	892 500 $
Krebs, Peyton	1	874 125 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Johnson, Jack	1	775 000 $
Kiviranta, Joel	1	775 000 $
Drouin, Jonathan	1	2 000 000 $
Walker, Sean	4	4 400 000 $
Trenin, Yakov	1	1 800 000 $

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COL

Joseph, Pierre-Olivier [Droits de RFA]
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PHI)

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Lower of the two second round picks the Pens hold

PIT

Manson, Josh
Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (ANA)

COL

Kovacevic, Johnathan

MTL

Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PHI)

COL

Krebs, Peyton [Droits de RFA]
Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (BUF)

BUF

Colton, Ross

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2024
2025
2026

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TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	87 700 000 $	87 692 042 $	0 $	57 500 $	7 958 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Drouin, Jonathan 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA	MacKinnon, Nathan 12 600 000 $12 600 000 $ C NMC UFA - 7	Rantanen, Mikko 9 250 000 $9 250 000 $ AD, C M-NTC UFA - 1
Landeskog, Gabriel 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ AG, C NMC UFA - 5	Mittelstadt, Casey 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ AG, C RFA	Nichushkin, Valeri 6 125 000 $6 125 000 $ AD, AG NMC UFA - 6
Kovalenko, Nikolai 896 250 $896 250 $ (57 500 $$58K) AD RFA - 1	Trenin, Yakov 1 800 000 $1 800 000 $ AG, C UFA	Lehkonen, Artturi 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 3
Wood, Miles 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ AG M-NTC UFA - 5	Krebs, Peyton 874 125 $874 125 $ C, AG RFA	O'Connor, Logan 1 050 000 $1 050 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Toews, Devon 7 250 000 $7 250 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 7	Makar, Cale 9 000 000 $9 000 000 $ DD UFA - 3	Georgiev, Alexandar 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ G UFA - 1
Girard, Samuel 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG/DD M-NTC UFA - 3	Kovacevic, Johnathan 766 667 $766 667 $ DD UFA - 1	Annunen, Justus 837 500 $837 500 $ G RFA - 2
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier 892 500 $892 500 $ DG RFA	Walker, Sean 4 400 000 $4 400 000 $ DG/DD UFA

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Kiviranta, Joel 775 000 $775 000 $ AD, AG UFA
Johnson, Jack 775 000 $775 000 $ DG UFA

Équipe de réserve
Ritchie, Calum 950 000 $950 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) C RFA
Behrens, Sean 950 000 $950 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) DG RFA - 3

3 avr. à 12 h 10

Nick_SUCCzuki

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Habs say yes

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3 avr. à 12 h 31

AntiAnalytics

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“Maybe” from the Sabres

3 avr. à 12 h 47

habs_need_Scoring

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habs say yes if thats a 4th instead of a 2nd. He no longer has a spot on the roster and next year there will be even more competition.

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3 avr. à 12 h 50

BorisBagel

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Quoting: Nick_SUCCzuki

Habs say yes

Oui

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3 avr. à 12 h 52

Anus_McLeod

Démarrer sujet

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Quoting: habs_need_Scoring

habs say yes if thats a 4th instead of a 2nd. He no longer has a spot on the roster and next year there will be even more competition.

Honestly I completely agree that a 2nd is high, but I know a lot of Habs fans think otherwise and aimed for the high side. Obviously I'd love to get him for as little as possible.

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3 avr. à 12 h 58

habs_need_Scoring

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Quoting: Anus_McLeod

Honestly I completely agree that a 2nd is high, but I know a lot of Habs fans think otherwise and aimed for the high side. Obviously I'd love to get him for as little as possible.

ya i think hes going to enter the season at 8th or 9th on the depth chart, habs maybe squeeze a 3rd if the timing is perfect but i dont see them being too worried about the return, given he was a waiver claim any pick up is a solid considering.

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3 avr. à 12 h 59

MeetYourMakar

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Krebs wouldn't be a fit in the Avs system. He's a little softer and gets lost more often than Jost. He's kind of a high end JLF and that's a bad 4C fit.

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MeetYourMakar

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Quoting: habs_need_Scoring

Who are you projecting to be your top 8 dmen next season?

3 avr. à 13 h 6

Anus_McLeod

Démarrer sujet

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Quoting: MeetYourMakar

Krebs wouldn't be a fit in the Avs system. He's a little softer and gets lost more often than Jost. He's kind of a high end JLF and that's a bad 4C fit.

I don't disagree, but it's a pretty easy fix if he doesn't work out. Looking for a 4C at the tdl is not a bad place to be.

On the other hand, if he buys into Bednar's system and starts to click a little bit, then maybe the team has found a third liner for the future. Worth a shot imo, as it's really cap space and the third that are the main return.

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3 avr. à 13 h 24

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Boos

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This Sabres fans says done deal. I'll drive Krebs to the airport. Or even Colorado if necessary

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MeetYourMakar

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Quoting: Anus_McLeod

I would really like to see Krebs be that, but as someone who watches him often, its not there and Beds won't give him the years it may take.

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3 avr. à 13 h 54

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Anus_McLeod

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Quoting: MeetYourMakar

I would really like to see Krebs be that, but as someone who watches him often, its not there and Beds won't give him the years it may take.

I'll just make two points while also conceding that's it's unlikely this becomes a success. One is Drouin, who has bought in and added an element to his game that has never been there. Two is Buffalo's system/culture, in which it's a lot easier and more comfortable to coast.

Again, I'm not saying it will work. But Krebs is a guy that was the engine of his team in the WHL. He has some ability, and it's worth the flyer. He'll be easy to trade if needed, so it's not a big risk.

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Quoting: Anus_McLeod

Honestly I completely agree that a 2nd is high, but I know a lot of Habs fans think otherwise and aimed for the high side. Obviously I'd love to get him for as little as possible.

I feel that he holds a higher 3rd rounder in value, could be a Kovy + late pick for a 2nd. We'd definitely take the PHI '24 2nd for him, wouldn't even think twice if that was offered.

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3 avr. à 15 h 19

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LuckyMoneyPuck

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that's a no from PIT, they don't need another high price defenseman.

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habs_need_Scoring

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Quoting: MeetYourMakar

Who are you projecting to be your top 8 dmen next season?

Ghule,Matheson, Xhekaj, Savard, Strube, Harris, Barron (one of Mailloux Hutson and Reinbarcher) probably makes a case in camp to be considered ahead of Kovacevic. My guess is mailloux after the year hes putting up in laval.

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Doubtful PIT want Manson imo. 2nd for Kovacevic is too high as well, I'd only do that as part of a package......but the Avs don't have a 3rd which is probably about right value pick-wise. Think pure picks are probably better for Colton. If we're looking at 4C then Pavel can do that easy enough and probably better suited. No need for Krebs for that.

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