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Équipe: 2024-25 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 2 avr. 2024
Publié: 2 avr. 2024
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    2 avr. à 2 h 9
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    Ah yes, and I will manifest Matthews, Makar, McDavid, and Mackinnon on the Canes!
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    So Carolina just gives Necas to the Habs for free?? No draft pick compensation??

    Habs would give up their first rounder (most likely top 8), their second rounder and a 3rd for Necas. Carolina probably allows him to walk for that if Im being honest
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    So Carolina just gives Necas to the Habs for free?? No draft pick compensation??

    Habs would give up their first rounder (most likely top 8), their second rounder and a 3rd for Necas. Carolina probably allows him to walk for that if Im being honest


    Canes wouldn't take draft pick compensation. Canes are in the middle of a cup window, they'd need a replacement top six scorer, be that Caufield, Suzuki, or Slafkovsky
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    Canes wouldn't take draft pick compensation. Canes are in the middle of a cup window, they'd need a replacement top six scorer, be that Caufield, Suzuki, or Slafkovsky


    Caufield for Necas and Nikishin only way that happens

    Suzuki or Slaf only happens if Aho is coming the other way or a package that includes Nikishin, 1st and one of your top six players, Svech ideally, Jarvis or Necas would do though
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    Caufield for Necas and Nikishin only way that happens

    Suzuki or Slaf only happens if Aho is coming the other way or a package that includes Nikishin, 1st and one of your top six players, Svech ideally, Jarvis or Necas would do though


    Brother, put the bong down. Necas is more valuable than Slafkovsky AND Caufield. Suzuki, fair, he'd need to be added to. But this is like me saying you'd need to add Hutson to Slafkovsky for Necas...
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    Both sides are being delusional here..... All that to say you know there is no way these two teams are interested in doing any kind of business with the other.
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    Brother, put the bong down. Necas is more valuable than Slafkovsky AND Caufield. Suzuki, fair, he'd need to be added to. But this is like me saying you'd need to add Hutson to Slafkovsky for Necas...


    Bong hell those are some serious hallucinogens if he thinks that way. No pot ever has made someone that delusional.
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    Bong hell those are some serious hallucinogens if he thinks that way. No pot ever has made someone that delusional.


    I was trying to be nice because I get infractions like they're candy on Halloween, but it's... oh it's bad.
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    Brother, put the bong down. Necas is more valuable than Slafkovsky AND Caufield. Suzuki, fair, he'd need to be added to. But this is like me saying you'd need to add Hutson to Slafkovsky for Necas...


    Hahahaha Habs management would severely disagree and likely laugh at you when stating that opinion.

    You don't like the reality that Necas wouldn't get any of those three players in his own but it is the truth in the world we live in. And right now, when is comes to Slaf and Suzuki, there's literally not a single player on Carolina other than Aho that Habs management would give you either 1 for 1 in a trade
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    Hahahaha Habs management would severely disagree and likely laugh at you when stating that opinion.

    You don't like the reality that Necas wouldn't get any of those three players in his own but it is the truth in the world we live in. And right now, when is comes to Slaf and Suzuki, there's literally not a single player on Carolina other than Aho that Habs management would give you either 1 for 1 in a trade


    Are you high? Jarvis, Necas and Svechnikov would all require Slafkovsky +, and that is UNDENIABLE. Necas would require Caufield +. There's a reason the Habs suck and the Canes are a cup contender, you expect the Canes to have significantly better players than the Habs, they do! Necas, Jarvis have a better P/60 than both Caufield and Slafkovsky, and Svechnikov is scoring at a better pace than Caufield AND is putting up a comparable points pace to Suzuki while being younger! You're on drugs buddy.
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    Quoting: Cushmaker
    Both sides are being delusional here..... All that to say you know there is no way these two teams are interested in doing any kind of business with the other.


    Thank you - even if you removed the Aho - KK offersheet history, Carolina would only want to move Necas for a roster upgrade, and Montreal isn't looking to move any of the players that Carolina would consider in that move. These two teams just aren't a good match for this kind of deal.
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    Are you high? Jarvis, Necas and Svechnikov would all require Slafkovsky +, and that is UNDENIABLE. Necas would require Caufield +. There's a reason the Habs suck and the Canes are a cup contender, you expect the Canes to have significantly better players than the Habs, they do! Necas, Jarvis have a better P/60 than both Caufield and Slafkovsky, and Svechnikov is scoring at a better pace than Caufield AND is putting up a comparable points pace to Suzuki while being younger! You're on drugs buddy.


    Buddy, all those players for any of CC, Slaf or Suzuki move the Habs backwards. It's not that hard to use logic and realize that's Habs management wouldn't want to take on any player older than the on their giving up.

    It's why our teams don't make good trade partners, you have 24-28 year old players in a win now mode, Habs have all 24 and under players rebuilding. It's basic logic that you some how can't grasp.

    Slaf or Suzuki would require Aho for Habs management to dlsay yes

    Carolina wouldn't take on Slaf because he's to young and isn't useful for another two years

    Both statements are true, you're bias is comparing players who are older to younger players and thinking about potential or future because your team is in win now.

    Always fun to see you get riled up though lol
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    Buddy, all those players for any of CC, Slaf or Suzuki move the Habs backwards. It's not that hard to use logic and realize that's Habs management wouldn't want to take on any player older than the on their giving up.

    It's why our teams don't make good trade partners, you have 24-28 year old players in a win now mode, Habs have all 24 and under players rebuilding. It's basic logic that you some how can't grasp.

    Slaf or Suzuki would require Aho for Habs management to dlsay yes

    Carolina wouldn't take on Slaf because he's to young and isn't useful for another two years

    Both statements are true, you're bias is comparing players who are older to younger players and thinking about potential or future because your team is in win now.

    Always fun to see you get riled up though lol


    LMAO, you think I'm riled up because of your delusional takes. That's funny. Habs management would jump at Slafkovsky for Jarvis. They'd jump at Slafkovsky for Svechnikov. Montreal do not have the assets for Aho, at all. You just do not LMAO.
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    Canes wouldn't take draft pick compensation. Canes are in the middle of a cup window, they'd need a replacement top six scorer, be that Caufield, Suzuki, or Slafkovsky


    I agree but I think it depends if they really like any prospects in the top 1-8, they could also free up cap to re-sgin a majority of their d-core + Guentzel + add another top 6 player through trade
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    I agree but I think it depends if they really like any prospects in the top 1-8, they could also free up cap to re-sgin a majority of their d-core + Guentzel + add another top 6 player through trade


    Canes don't like drafting D men in round one, which means this draft is probably not one they look to trade into the top 10.
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    LMAO, you think I'm riled up because of your delusional takes. That's funny. Habs management would jump at Slafkovsky for Jarvis. They'd jump at Slafkovsky for Svechnikov. Montreal do not have the assets for Aho, at all. You just do not LMAO.


    Hahaha ya every team would jump at the chance to give up the guy who's 4+ years younger than everyone you listed and is already looking like one of the best power forwards in the league.

    Use logic for once, take off the cane coloured glasses and ask yourself, do you give up the 20 year old who looks like Rantanen for any of those players? No
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    Canes don't like drafting D men in round one, which means this draft is probably not one they look to trade into the top 10.


    Doesn't need to be a d-man, I can't remember the last time the Canes had a true sniper in the top 6 (maybe Jeff Skinner or Svech but I think he's more of an all around player). If Eiserman is available with the Habs pick they might bite
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    Doesn't need to be a d-man, I can't remember the last time the Canes had a true sniper in the top 6 (maybe Jeff Skinner or Svech but I think he's more of an all around player). If Eiserman is available with the Habs pick they might bite


    Guentzel, Svechnikov... Eiserman won't be there at 6
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    Guentzel, Svechnikov... Eiserman won't be there at 6


    Guentzel 100% is not a sniper, he is far more of just an offensive powerhouse that can maybe give you 30 goals but that's more so just due to his talent. Is Svech one either? He certainly has the skill set to be one but he has only hit 30 goals once in his career, wouldn't be shocked if he randomly drops 50 next year when healthy.

    Regardless, I think the Canes should at least consider the compensation considering it allows them to re-sign key pieces and add a potentially better player than Necas.
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    Quoting: Subbanator7667
    Hahaha ya every team would jump at the chance to give up the guy who's 4+ years younger than everyone you listed and is already looking like one of the best power forwards in the league.

    Use logic for once, take off the cane coloured glasses and ask yourself, do you give up the 20 year old who looks like Rantanen for any of those players? No


    Slaf>Suzuki>Necas>Caufield in terms of value imo
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    Quoting: NucksnOilers
    Guentzel 100% is not a sniper, he is far more of just an offensive powerhouse that can maybe give you 30 goals but that's more so just due to his talent. Is Svech one either? He certainly has the skill set to be one but he has only hit 30 goals once in his career, wouldn't be shocked if he randomly drops 50 next year when healthy.

    Regardless, I think the Canes should at least consider the compensation considering it allows them to re-sign key pieces and add a potentially better player than Necas.


    Guentzel got multiple 40+ goal seasons... he's a sniper. Svechnikov has 4 different 30 goal pace seasons. I'm not exactly concerned with him not being the sniper he was expected to be when he was drafted
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    Slaf>Suzuki>Necas>Caufield in terms of value imo


    It's honestly more to mess with this guy. One of the most bias people on the site who doesn't use logic or facts to back up his arguments. Rather discussions and arguments with people like you who use stats and useful info for your argument
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    Guentzel got multiple 40+ goal seasons... he's a sniper. Svechnikov has 4 different 30 goal pace seasons. I'm not exactly concerned with him not being the sniper he was expected to be when he was drafted


    Them grabbing a sniper doesn't even matter imo. They grab a top 8 prospect on an elc and gain cap to re-sign a top-6 or top-4 piece. This feels like a good deal imo over keeping Necas for a price that may not even be worth it
     
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