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Forum: Fauteuil - DGmar. à 15 h 13
Sujet: Good offer for Necas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>Facts are, he doesn't produce enough, the fit might not be there, he might not be playing in the role he wants but this is a results based league, the same things were said about Domi, that noise doesn't make a lick of difference when talking about a player’s value. GM's aren't paying for what a player "might" do they only pay for what a player consistently does and Necas consistently puts up an average of 55 points a season while being horrible defensively, those are the exact same reasons Domi only returned Josh Anderson.

I like Necas he has good size, speed and skill but until he puts together multiple 70 point season, his value isn't going to be more than that of a 55 point player aka Lehkonen or Domi.</div></div>

How many of those ~55 points come in OT where it leads directly to 2 points in the standings.... Not all points are created equal. He leads the league in OT goals over the last 2 years with plenty of assist to go with them. Again context matters. Teams have, and always will pay a premium for game breaking skills.

A fair counter point would be that for every extra bit he excels in OT, he seems to struggle in the playoffs which is the complete opposite time/space environment.... but I'd rather get there and take my chances.
Forum: Fauteuil - DGmar. à 13 h 33
Sujet: Good offer for Necas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>Necas is averages 55 points per year and sucks defensively. What he makes up in offensive abilities he more than loses in defensive abilities. He just simply is getting overhyped on this site cause he had 71 points in 2023-23, Domi had 72 at the same age then regressed back to being a 55 point player as well, would you pay this price for Domi?! Necas is a good 2nd line winger but he isn't worth 3 1st + 2nd + 3rd, there are much, much, much better players you can spend those types of assets for that will <strong>actually</strong> be worth it.</div></div>

A 55 point player who's never received top line or top PP minutes. Not saying he's deserved them in Carolina over who've they've played in those roles, but there is context to it all. Carolina has admittedly had a 2C hole the last couple years. Not saying numbers aren't important, just saying that the eyes will tell you that he brings more to the table than what he's produced in the role he's played.
Forum: Fauteuil - DGmar. à 13 h 28
Sujet: Good offer for Necas
Canes fan with a little different take here.

I'm a huge Necas fan &amp; supporter, but I would still seriously consider this if I'm the GM in Carolina. While everything said about a contending team and wanting players who can contribute now is true, it's isn't always realistic. Of course we'd prefer a younger/cheaper player that could contribute but those aren't just readily available. The best way to extend the current window is to maximize the value and return you get for the asset. If the market for Necas demands 7M+, I'd rather take the 2 firsts /bottom 6 vet/prospect and bring back Teravainen for 2-3 years at a lower number (4-5M?). At some point you need the ELC/RFA value that the likes of Necas/Jarvis/Drury have afforded coming through the pipeline to make space for the guys you HAVE to pay.

Again, I'm a huge Necas fan and would prefer him back on a team friendly deal if possible but if that's not in the cards, I'd take an overpay in futures over aging vets with bloated contracts just to try to match the production they'd be losing.
Forum: Armchair-GMven. à 15 h 14
Forum: Armchair-GM4 avr. à 13 h 25
Sujet: Offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>seanrushton</b></div><div>I think you can rework the AAV on some of these contracts to get them to fit but these were just my guesses.
6-6.5 Seems about like what Necas is getting... Tippet is good comp and he got $6.2
Noesen seems like he wants to stay in Raleigh and there is a history of people resigning for a lot less than what they could have gotten on the market with the Hurricanes... just look at Aho
Skjei is probably about $.5 to $1m off and about 2 or 3 years off
You can replace Martinook with somebody for that cap hit that does the defensive shutdown job</div></div>

For sure, I didn't think anything you had was crazy, just my slight tweaks. I think Necas will want Bratt type $

I don't disagree that there are players who would take a discount to play with this roster/city, but you can't really compare Aho/Noesen. Aho was already set for life and was getting 'FU' money from anyone. Noesen's never been paid, won't get much term and it could be the last chance he has to cash in.

The KK question was for Caniac2000.... I fully agree with your take that he's likely gone.
Forum: Armchair-GM4 avr. à 11 h 51
Sujet: Who gets extended 24-25
Staal isn't going anywhere, has a no movement clause, and despite what some will yell, still produces at least up to his contract value.

Love Teuvo, but he's not coming back at that number. I think it's a long shot for him to be back unless he take a sizable home-town discount.

I do think they look to move on from KK. The return isn't the reward, it's the cap space they need to reallocate to the top 6 forwards or top 4 D. Just can't have 4.8 sitting in the bottom 6. It's not about the player at this point, it's about the contract.

Your Necas/Jarvis deals are in the right ballpark in my opinion but I hope you're a little high on them both would like to knock off 500K from each #. I do think Jarvis will be a bridge if only to extend their current window for 2 more years before they go into a more sizable roster reconstruction.
Forum: Trade Machine Proposals3 avr. à 15 h 8
Sujet: For Necas Overly Complex I Know
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD25</b></div><div>You are right, this trade comes short. As a Carolina fan, what kind of return would you expect for Necas?</div></div>

In an ideal world they keep Necas, it really comes down to the price tag.

If they decide he is too expensive to keep and need the $ to spread over the rest of the roster they're going to want players who are NHL ready and on ELCs or players that are under contract on deals below market value. This makes who they'd consider in return a relatively small list. Not saying there won't also be some sort of prospect/draft pick component to it, but it would be extremely unlikely that would make up the bulk of the value in any package to get a deal done.

It's not simply about player to player value, it's also about when the players will be available and with the Canes current roster construction and window they are looking for players who will contribute now not 3-4 years from now.
Forum: Armchair-GM21 mars à 10 h 30
Sujet: Offseason
I think this is really close and does a good job showing the Cap Crunch the Canes are facing.

A few things I see as up in the air.
1. It's possible you flip/flop Necas and Guntzel. Necas won't cost 9M (my guess is 6.5-7.5) and 4 years younger. Guntzel is great but if he goes to market he's getting 9+ easy and hard to see Canes paying market rate.

2. The Canes have a decision to make on Necas but they don't have to decide that fate this summer. They can carry him into next season through a short term contract or arbitration if it comes to that (which would almost guarantee he's gone after, but it's an option).

3. I would expect the Canes to try to move KK. With the entire center group (assuming you're right and in the ballpark with Drury) back next season, Canes just can't go into a cup window year with 4.8M as a 4C or bottom 6 winger.

4. Out of Skjei/Pesce I agree the Pesce option is the more likely but I don't see him fetching that much. This will sounds low but I don't see the Canes going past 5Y/5.25M.

All in all, I think you've done a nice job and something that is realistic (outside of maybe the Necas trade because I do agree if he is traded that Calgary doesn't have the type of assets Carolina would be looking for in return. Trade could very much happen but I'd be surprised if it's with that team.)
Forum: Armchair-GM21 mars à 10 h 5
Forum: Trade Machine Proposals15 mars à 15 h 13
Sujet: My offseason fantasy moving forward for both teams and all players
I appreciate the effort and thought put into this but it is very far off. As previously mentioned Jarvis is almost a near untouchable for the canes. It was actually quite comical reading this comment. "Jarvis has 2 more points a whole lot less size grit leadership and defensive ability." There is tons to rebut but it's not worth taking the time other than just laughing it off.

While I do think the Canes look to offload KK to someone this summer (They'll need his cap space off the books) I don't think either Kadri or Coleman fit their needs. For starters Kuzentsov is still under contract at 3.9 next year so unless he looks washed down the stretch and into the playoffs, I fully expect the Canes to roll with him and his expiring contract rather than take on an even older player at double the cost with a lifetime left on his contract.

While Coleman is no Jarvis, he is a really nice player, but again, there really isn't a spot for him. *IF* (and it's a big IF) Necas &amp; Guntzel return there isn't a top 6 spot for Coleman. If either of those guys is gone, I would expect them to bring back Teravainen (who is 3 years younger and a coaches favorite) at or below the 4.9 Colman is costing.

I don't think the Flames are a great fit in what they would have to offer in return, but it's more likely that Necas would be impact player that gets moved this summer.
Forum: Armchair-GM8 mars à 10 h 32