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Offseason - Anders Lee Open Discusison

Créé par: exo2769

Équipe: 2024-25 Blackhawks de Chicago

Date de création initiale: 23 mars 2024

Publié: 28 mars 2024

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Similar to what was written in the trade description. I'm just trying to outline that something can be done here. The Hawks should (imo) be willing to take on his contract because we need more veteran leadership and he really isn't a pure cap dump. He has a role on a team...it's just that his cap hit was way too high. I think there can be a deal made here where the Islanders to get more picks and more cap space, BUT that does come at a cost. I'm certainly open for additional discussion, but I like to use link below to better understand the pick values and then truly get to what Anders would cost.

Pick #13 has a value of 310

Pick #54 has a value of 52
Pick #64 has a value of 36
NYI 2nd 2025??? let's say middle 2nd? Pick #48 has a value of 66.

That Math works out such that Anders is worth 156 points which is in between #28 and #29 in value. A late 1st in my opinion is a back of magic beans. AGAIN, open to more discussion but wanted to put this out there for thoughts.

https://soundofhockey.com/2022/06/06/examining-the-value-of-nhl-draft-picks/

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Vlasic, Alex		7	5 000 000 $
Reichel, Lukas		1	1 000 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Henrique, Adam	2	7 000 000 $
Pesce, Brett	5	7 000 000 $
Talbot, Cam	1	3 000 000 $

Transactions

CHI

Lee, Anders
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (NYI)

Détails additionnels:

https://soundofhockey.com/2022/06/06/examining-the-value-of-nhl-draft-picks/

Assumes the NYI stay at #13

I'm definitely open to discussing something different than this exact proposal. I'm just outlining to both fan bases that there could be something here. Anders isn't a pure cap dump. Hawks could use the 2 year contract and veteran leadership. BUT it's still $7M cap hit which is a tough pill to take. Sure that 1 pick is a high pick, but getting cap space and (3) 2nds back...probably not the worst proposal you've ever seen.

NYI

Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (LAK)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2026 (NYI)

Détails additionnels:

Assumes these two picks stay at roughly #54 and #64 and then 2026 NYI 2nd back to the Isles.

I'm definitely open to discussing something different than this exact proposal. I'm just outlining to both fan bases that there could be something here. Anders isn't a pure cap dump. Hawks could use the 2 year contract and veteran leadership. BUT it's still $7M cap hit which is a tough pill to take. Sure that 1 pick is a high pick, but getting cap space and (3) 2nds back...probably not the worst proposal you've ever seen.

Rachats de contrats

Josh Bailey: 1 166 667 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Jake McCabe: 2 000 000 $ (50%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2024
2025
2026

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
20	87 700 000 $	79 028 333 $	0 $	5 490 000 $	8 671 667 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Hall, Taylor 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1	Bedard, Connor 950 000 $950 000 $ (3 500 000 $$4M) C RFA - 2	Kurashev, Philipp 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ AG, C, AD RFA - 1
Lee, Anders 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ AG M-NTC UFA - 2	Henrique, Adam 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ AG, C UFA	Athanasiou, Andreas 4 250 000 $4 250 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1
Reichel, Lukas 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ AG, C RFA	Dickinson, Jason 4 250 000 $4 250 000 $ C, AG UFA - 2	Foligno, Nick 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AG, C, AD UFA - 2
Slaggert, Landon 912 500 $912 500 $ (850 000 $$850K) AG RFA - 1	Dach, Colton 825 000 $825 000 $ (82 500 $$82K) C RFA - 2	Donato, Ryan 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ AG, C, AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Vlasic, Alex 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG UFA - 6	Jones, Seth 9 500 000 $9 500 000 $ DD NMC UFA - 6	Mrázek, Petr 4 250 000 $4 250 000 $ G UFA - 2
Korchinski, Kevin 918 333 $918 333 $ (1 000 000 $$1M) DG RFA - 2	Murphy, Connor 4 400 000 $4 400 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 2	Talbot, Cam 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ G UFA
Del Mastro, Ethan 855 833 $855 833 $ (57 500 $$58K) DG RFA - 2	Pesce, Brett 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ DD UFA

28 mars à 10 h 46

gpmack95

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I like this alot for both teams

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28 mars à 10 h 46

DangleCat

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I would love this.

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28 mars à 11 h 2

Logicalicesports

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Can't see the Isles trading him along with a front half first.

Also, I would think that he doesn't waive for the Hawks

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28 mars à 11 h 7

Onlyfairtrades1

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No chance the Isles give up a 1st round pick to trade Lee. Absurd.

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28 mars à 11 h 9

CapFriendlysFinest

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This is such an interesting trade. On one hand, its stupid. On the other, it's so stupid it just might work.

I like this more for the Islanders then the Blackhawks. You free up space 7 million in cap space and get 3 draft picks all in the second round which still have high value. Losing the 13th overall sucks however I think I would rather have 3 level B prospects then a single level A prospect.

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28 mars à 11 h 16

Garak

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I like it. NYI needs cap and roster space and to restock their pipeline, while CHI needs quality over quantity and should be more than willing to package 2nd round picks in order to do so. Some fans may not like it, but it makes sense for both sides.

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28 mars à 11 h 22

exo2769

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exo2769

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Quoting: CapFriendlysFinest

I'm not even mad because that 1st part is exactly my approach and why I'm looking for discussion. I immediately thought, no way and I'm still trying to tinker. Maybe the CHI 2nd instead of LAK 2nd? All up for discussion.

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28 mars à 11 h 31

slapshot723

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Honestly, I love it for both teams.

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28 mars à 12 h 41

joshelkin

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I think I would prefer to make this a 2025 1st (lottery protected) with nothing coming back and use that 13th pick for a player like Chychrun (extended) now. But its interesting and something to think about

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28 mars à 13 h 38

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Hawksguy81

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I'd be fine w/ something along these lines from the Hawks perspective. I would be less ok if the deal included the Hawks own '24 2nd. To me, Lee takes a 2nd and a 3rd to move, but those picks probably don't interest the Hawks too much. $7m cap hit for two years, but only $10.5m in actual salary. And like you said, still a useful player. Just can't see the Isles using their '24 1st to make this trade happen. Cool idea though!

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28 mars à 15 h 45

#11

FoxYou727

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Props for the original idea. I do this 10/10 days. While the 13th does have a good chance of being a good top6/top 4 player, no guarantees. Despite being late 2nds there is a chance one of those players can be an impact player. Lee is good, but that's it good, not great or elite and for 7 mil not worth it

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6 avr. à 12 h 54

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exo2769

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exo2769

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Quoting: joshelkin

Honest question here. Now that it's #18...does that change your mind on the 2025 1st vs 2024 1st?

7 avr. à 23 h 27

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joshelkin

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Quoting: exo2769

Honest question here. Now that it's #18...does that change your mind on the 2025 1st vs 2024 1st?

I think I’d still prefer the 25 pick if Lou is truly going to go all out and revamp the roster this summer. There are a few younger guys who could be in play for the 24 first like Chychrun

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