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If Chytil is done

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Équipe: 2024-25 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 19 mars 2024
Publié: 19 mars 2024
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    19 mars à 9 h 24
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    Late first and middle 6 at best pieces don't buy Trevor Zegras.

    It takes blue chip pieces.
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    19 mars à 9 h 24
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    Rags really suck at developing forward prospects, huh?
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    19 mars à 9 h 25
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    If Chytil is done he goes on LTIR each season until his contract expires. If he retires his salary is voided and the Rangers won’t owe him a dime.
    Marc Savard as an example …..
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    19 mars à 9 h 31
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    Hard pass on zegras... I know anaheim fans love to say he's a superstar but he's not. He an average top 6 guy with some fancy moves (Michigan mainly). Would rather take that package to stl for buch or find someone else.
    19 mars à 10 h 41
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    Quoting: NYRxLundqvist
    Hard pass on zegras... I know anaheim fans love to say he's a superstar but he's not. He an average top 6 guy with some fancy moves (Michigan mainly). Would rather take that package to stl for buch or find someone else.


    We’re more than happy you feel that way. Zegras stays in ANA please and thank you
    19 mars à 10 h 42
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    Quoting: GiggywithGibby
    Late first and middle 6 at best pieces don't buy Trevor Zegras.

    It takes blue chip pieces.


    Yeah I’d have to think GPerreault would be the starting point or it’s not even worth considering
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    19 mars à 10 h 53
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    We’re more than happy you feel that way. Zegras stays in ANA please and thank you


    Top line player is still a top line player, a third liner, two picks on the back half of the 20s, and a toss in is supposed to get one that's only 23 years old?

    Man that cognitive dissonance is strong.
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    19 mars à 10 h 55
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    Quoting: NYRxLundqvist
    Hard pass on zegras... I know anaheim fans love to say he's a superstar but he's not. He an average top 6 guy with some fancy moves (Michigan mainly). Would rather take that package to stl for buch or find someone else.


    Kaapo Kakko : 286 games, 54 goals, 58 assists = 112 points
    Alex LaFreniere: 284 games, 66 goals, 67 assists = 133 points
    Trevor Zegras : 200* games, 53 goals, 93 assists = 146 points

    * 14 games this season playing with groin injury that eventually put him on the LTIR list for 6 weeks, then 5 games healthy, then broke his ankle three shifts (2 minutes) into his 20th "game"
    19 mars à 13 h 39
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    Kaapo Kakko : 286 games, 54 goals, 58 assists = 112 points
    Alex LaFreniere: 284 games, 66 goals, 67 assists = 133 points
    Trevor Zegras : 200* games, 53 goals, 93 assists = 146 points

    * 14 games this season playing with groin injury that eventually put him on the LTIR list for 6 weeks, then 5 games healthy, then broke his ankle three shifts (2 minutes) into his 20th "game"


    Let's compare toi and the positions in with these three players are playing.
    Kakko toi for his career is 13:33 averaging 3rd line.
    Zegras toi 14:43 averaging 1st line
    Laf toi 13:58 averaging 2nd line

    This is why fans like you don't know anything because all you care about is points and if you'd like to give me any defensive stats I bet kakko and laf smoke zegras in it.
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    19 mars à 14 h 26
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    Quoting: NYRxLundqvist
    Let's compare toi and the positions in with these three players are playing.
    Kakko toi for his career is 13:33 averaging 3rd line.
    Zegras toi 14:43 averaging 1st line
    Laf toi 13:58 averaging 2nd line

    This is why fans like you don't know anything because all you care about is points and if you'd like to give me any defensive stats I bet kakko and laf smoke zegras in it.


    All situations pts/60:

    Kakko: 1.3 this year, 1.9 last year
    Zegras: 1.2 this year, 2.6 last year
    Laf: 2.1 this year, 1.9 last year

    xGF-xGA
    Kakko: -1.0 this year, +2.9 last year, ~56% offensive zone starts -> Hockeyreference doesn't count neutral zone starts in their zone start metrics, only offensive vs. defensive zone starts on a faceoff)
    Zegras: -0.4 this year, -17.5 last, ~70% offensive zone starts
    Laf: +10.8 this year, -1.5 last, ~70% offensive zone starts

    But xGF-xGA doesn't really account for performance relative to the team, so, xGF% (and xGF% relative), per Moneypuck:
    Kakko: 50.5% this year (-0.1% relative), 52.5% last (1.9% relative)
    Zegras: 57.6% this year (18.5% relative), 48.5% last (13.0% relative)
    Laf: 53.1% this year (3.7% relative), 53.9% last (3.6% relative)

    Zegras' year this year is obviously a very small sample size, so what it tells me is he's producing at a higher pace typically (adjusting for ice time) and is a stronger play driver playing high-event hockey on a very bad team. Kakko and Laf are fine, but they're just good NHLers right now propped up even more by incredibly strong team play. There aren't a lot of great defensive stats (hits, FO%, giveaways vs. takeaways are all mostly useless IMO), but xGF% does tell us who's getting a higher share of good chances when they're on the ice: them or the other team.

    I don't know if Zegras is worth that package, and Kakko plays the strongest defensive game of the bunch which is valuable, but saying he's an average top-6 player with fancy moves when he's very clearly an excellent play driver and finisher/playmaker is just...interesting.
    19 mars à 15 h 5
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    19 mars à 19 h 13
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    Quoting: CaseyFlyman
    All situations pts/60:

    Kakko: 1.3 this year, 1.9 last year
    Zegras: 1.2 this year, 2.6 last year
    Laf: 2.1 this year, 1.9 last year

    xGF-xGA
    Kakko: -1.0 this year, +2.9 last year, ~56% offensive zone starts -> Hockeyreference doesn't count neutral zone starts in their zone start metrics, only offensive vs. defensive zone starts on a faceoff)
    Zegras: -0.4 this year, -17.5 last, ~70% offensive zone starts
    Laf: +10.8 this year, -1.5 last, ~70% offensive zone starts

    But xGF-xGA doesn't really account for performance relative to the team, so, xGF% (and xGF% relative), per Moneypuck:
    Kakko: 50.5% this year (-0.1% relative), 52.5% last (1.9% relative)
    Zegras: 57.6% this year (18.5% relative), 48.5% last (13.0% relative)
    Laf: 53.1% this year (3.7% relative), 53.9% last (3.6% relative)

    Zegras' year this year is obviously a very small sample size, so what it tells me is he's producing at a higher pace typically (adjusting for ice time) and is a stronger play driver playing high-event hockey on a very bad team. Kakko and Laf are fine, but they're just good NHLers right now propped up even more by incredibly strong team play. There aren't a lot of great defensive stats (hits, FO%, giveaways vs. takeaways are all mostly useless IMO), but xGF% does tell us who's getting a higher share of good chances when they're on the ice: them or the other team.

    I don't know if Zegras is worth that package, and Kakko plays the strongest defensive game of the bunch which is valuable, but saying he's an average top-6 player with fancy moves when he's very clearly an excellent play driver and finisher/playmaker is just...interesting.


    I'm personally not a fan of zegras and would not pay this package
    19 mars à 19 h 24
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    That looks like a super hard pass from ANA
     
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