The only Islander assets we would trade Zegras for are Barzal, Dobson and Pulock. And I can't see the Islanders ever doing any of that.

Wahlstrom isn't worth enough to take Palmieri's contract.

Yes Sens will happily take Pageau for a mid round pick if NYI retains 50%

That is a terrible trade, but for the opposite reason. Palmieri is a 20-goal scorer on a reasonable contract with no term beyond next season - basically a one-year middle-six rental. The Isles aren't going to get a massive package back for him or anything, but there's no way they'd have to pay to get someone to take him.

OTT declines both trades

Wahlstrom is a bust, Hawks would have no interest.

If you want to trade Palmeiri to Chicago, they would gladly take the same deal as last offseason for Bailey:

Palmeiri and the Islanders 2025 2nd round pick to Chicago

FC to the Islanders.

That's fine. Go sell him to another team then. CHI certainly isn't buying him.

Nor should they. He makes sense for a good team that misses out on their top UFA targets not a mid-rebuild team like Chicago.

This is moronic. Palmieri is at 21 goals and counting. Bailey was one of the worst players in the league last year. The two are not even remotely equivalent.

why would the isles do that Chicago trade lmao. Palms has been good this season and only has one more year left.

I don't know honestly about this. I think the Hawks could take Palmeiri for free to retain half and trade at the next year's TDL. At $2.7M, he would garner something back at the TDL IMO, maybe a 2nd or 3rd so it's almost like free assets.

I agree though, that Wahlstrom is a bust, but maybe sign him for $900K and help Rockford out.

They actually are very comparable for multiple reasons. They are forwards with a history of high end play at the NHL level, are about the same age, declining, at a similar point in their career, are overpaid, both struggled to play a full season in recent years, and more importantly, the Isles are going to need the cap space. If the Isles aren't served well keeping him around at that cap hit, why would a bunch of cap strapped teams trade valuable assets for one year of a 34 year old with a $5M cap hit based on one decent season? When you look at his body of work in recent years, i'd bet on him dropping off significantly next year, especially joining a new team. Raddysh scored 20 goals last year, is 25 years old, PK's, is on a less than league minimum contract, and no one was willing to pay anything significant for him. He also played like garbage this year, albeit, on a severely depleted Blackhawks roster, but that would've been a much safer bet, yet no one made it.

Again, if the Isles can get something for him, good for them. But, there is a clear reason why Snowhawk used Bailey as a comp. I would bet that the Isles will have to pay to move him if they decide they need to move his contract, and if they do get something for him, it will be very minimal and might even require retention, which is something NYI would probably like to avoid.

Palmeiri has 21 and counting playing with the likes of Barzal, Horvat, Nelson, Pageau, Lee and Dobson, in Chicago he will be playing with potentially Bedard and hopefully Hall if he comes back healthy. Also, prior to this season Palmeiri had back to back 33 point seasons and didn’t eclipse 20 goals either year, so is this season an anomaly? Players typically don’t get better in their mid 30s.

For the Hawks it is all about team building right now, why invest $5m in a 33 year old winger who can walk at the end of next season? Under this proposal, acquiring Palmeiri would be all about hoping he has another season similar to this year while playing with a less talented roster just so he can be dealt next TDL for a good return… that’s a fool’s bet or moronic as you would put it.

It makes more sense for the Hawks to get their return for acquiring Palmeiri now and then anything they might potentially get at the 2025 TDL is a bonus. If the Islanders don’t like that they can go find a true moron to do business with… I would suggest Grier in San Jose, they guy is clueless.

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You have to combine Bailey's last two seasons together to get to as many goals as Palmieri already has this season. Comparing the two is like apples and socket wrenches. Arizona got a 6th for Zucker at the deadline and has half as many goals as Palmieri and a higher cap hit. Like I said, they're not going to get a haul for Palms if they move him, but they absolutely will not need to pay someone to take him.

Then Chicago shouldn't trade for him, but to call him a cap dump that the Isles would have to pay to move is just dumb.

A collection of spare parts doesn't buy Zegras. It would take quality, not quantity.

I never called him a cap dump, those are your words. I merely pointed out how a deal for Palmieri would make sense for the Hawks.

How is a guy being traded for nothing but future considerations not a cap dump?

Columubs happily takes that Chicago deal, but would prefer a pick to Wahlstrom just because of internal logjam. But regardless of what the addition is, Palmieri would be perfect for Columbus next season: mature, defensively responsible, can pot a few goals.

I didn’t propose the deal, I am saying what the Hawks would want for a trade involving Palmieri to make sense, the Islander could and should look for a trade partner who would be willing to give them something in return or just keep him.