Get a bit of retention on Hubby and flip the 1st going to CGY for another 1st going to MTL. We *might* consider then

Take out Holtz or retain 50%, your call

Huby would be so back if he went to MTL. Feel that in my soul

And in your soul it shall stay.

Remive the first going to Calgary and change the FLA first for your own 2024 first top 1 protected

Could be, but really can't the risk though (If you told me "Trade for Hubby and he pops off guarantee", I would 100% pull the trigger). The only problem is, he is far from a guarantee to pop off

Flames don't consider that Habs trade.

Highly doubt the Sabres trade Quinn

The conditions on this CGY 1st tangled with the FLO 1st are already 2 pages long, and you want to flip them?

Delusional.

Considering those conditions are from a prior trade between Calgary and Montreal that'd actually simplify things greatly. But Calgary still wouldn't do it. There'd have to be something a lot better than Anderson, Dvorak and Harris coming back. There's no chance Calgary gives you Huberdeau and a 2nd for your overpaid rejects / cap dumps and a small not very good depth defenseman.

Yet another way Bonehead Brad screwed the Flames. Trading that 2025 1st away means they can't even throw out an offer sheet for a decent RFA center or goal scoring winger.

Nah, this isn’t asking much for one of the worst contracts in the league

I actually liked Brad for the most part as GM. UFA signings were certainly questionable but he did well on successful trades (except Harmonic) also his drafting was excellent. It's important to remember that ownership interfered with what he could do a lot. They made us constantly try to make the playoffs even when the team wasn't ready or should have leaned towards a rebuild

I disagree. Brad got lucky on two trades both involving Hamilton. The Tkachuk trade itself wasn't bad the big mistake there was giving Huberdeau that ridiculous contract. Another huge mistake was not signing Matthew to a long term contract like Matthew wanted instead of that stupid bridge deal. Matthew would still be in Calgary now and we wouldn't be stuck with Huberdeau's contract if Brad had done the smart thing then. Not seeing through little johnny's transparent act, offering him the same ridiculous contract and losing him for nothing should have been 3 strikes to get him fired all by itself.

Then there are all the terrible free agent signings, undermining the coach by bringing in the wrong type of players for his systems. Sutter says he wants players with size and speed so Brad brings in mostly big slow low skill players the cheapest available of course instead of paying a little more for guys who have both size and speed.

And his drafting? Nearly all of the forwards he drafted with high picks were undersized wingers (Bennett and Tkachuk don't count since there's no way Brian Burke would have let him pass on those two). Sure several of the little guys turned out ok but you can only have so many small wingers. If you don't have some forwards with good size (not just in the bottom 6 either) including a few centers you'll never be a real contender.

I could go on but really Brad should have been fired years ago. Yes ownership meddling (Murray Edwards) did have something to do with it but most of it was still Brad. Conroy is under the same restraints as Treliving was but he's already proven to be a whole lot smarter on the drafting, trade and waiver fronts. I'm quite confident Conroy will continue to do far better than Treliving. Meanwhile Treliving has barely gotten started on destroying the Leafs, just look at his UFA signings and trade record with them so far for proof of that. Overpays all the wrong guys (Domi, Klingberg, Reaves, etc.) and too cheap to trade anything of worth for better players. The Leafs have proven willing to let him go deep into LTIR which is one thing Edwards never let him do but that just allowed him to waste even more money on signing all the wrong guys. Did even just one of his free agent signings this past summer work out well?