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Gotta go Buffalo

Créé par: noted
Équipe: 2024-25 Blues de St-Louis
Date de création initiale: 13 mars 2024
Publié: 13 mars 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3950 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 500 000 $
22 000 000 $
33 000 000 $
22 500 000 $
87 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
BUF
  1. Faulk, Justin (2 000 000 $ retained)
  2. Hayes, Kevin
2.
STL
  1. Drury, Jack [Droits de RFA]
  2. Necas, Martin [Droits de RFA]
CAR
  1. Buchnevich, Pavel (2 900 000 $ retained)
  2. Perunovich, Scott
  3. Saad, Brandon
Détails additionnels:
This trade is if Guentzel doesn't re-sign.
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2387 700 000 $79 762 380 $0 $1 212 500 $7 937 620 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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835 833 $835 833 $
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C, AD
UFA - 7
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8 125 000 $8 125 000 $
AD
UFA - 7
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950 000 $950 000 $
AD, C
RFA
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
C
RFA
7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
AD
RFA
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
C, AG
NTC
UFA - 4
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance800 000 $$800K)
C
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance412 500 $$412K)
AG
RFA - 2
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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852 500 $852 500 $
C
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 2
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775 000 $775 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
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775 000 $775 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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4 285 714 $4 285 714 $
DG
UFA - 6
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 6
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 2
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
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775 000 $775 000 $
G
RFA - 1
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 3
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
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800 000 $800 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1

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13 mars à 9 h 45
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I don't think I'd do that
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13 mars à 9 h 45
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Can’t see BUF accepting that and the CAR deal is an overpay on our side. Army isn’t wasting a retention spot on Faulk and probably Buch as well for that price either. A bit of an overpay on the Kessel, Scotty P, and Drury contracts too. Can’t wait til Snuggerud is here to save us.
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13 mars à 9 h 46
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You aren’t getting Necas for Buchnevich
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13 mars à 9 h 49
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I don't think I'd do that


What if Blues added Toronto's 2nd round pick? I obviously stole the Hayes/Jokiharju piece from you wink
13 mars à 9 h 52
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What if Blues added Toronto's 2nd round pick? I obviously stole the Hayes/Jokiharju piece from you wink


I just don't think we'd move both Samuelsson and jokiharju. We have 3 offensive defensmen in our top 4 already
13 mars à 9 h 55
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
I just don't think we'd move both Samuelsson and jokiharju. We have 3 offensive defensmen in our top 4 already


Those 3 offensive D you have also all defend pretty well too though no?
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Quoting: evelutions2
You aren’t getting Necas for Buchnevich


Talk about overvaluing Necas
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13 mars à 9 h 57
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Those 3 offensive D you have also all defend pretty well too though no?


Some better than others. They seem to be quite high on samuelsson
13 mars à 10 h 4
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Quoting: StDetroitBlueWings
Talk about overvaluing Necas


Assuming this is done in the off-season, Necas is an RFA that can be signed for 8 years, whilst Buchnevich would be entering the final year of his contract before being a UFA. They aren’t that far apart offensively, although Buchnevich certainly outshines Necas defensively. How is Necas being overvalued here? You simply don’t trade young top 6 RFA players for older pending UFA players.
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13 mars à 10 h 5
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Canes pass. Buch isn't returning Necas. We can take Buch from you, but it'll be a futures package, Drury could even be in it, but Necas is just straight better
13 mars à 10 h 11
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I don't see why Buffalo does that
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13 mars à 10 h 22
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If rental Guentzal didn't return Necas, why would rental Buchnevich?
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13 mars à 10 h 26
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Quoting: noted
Those 3 offensive D you have also all defend pretty well too though no?


Can't afford Faulk 6.25. 3 off d already
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13 mars à 10 h 45
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Quoting: Huge_Caniac_Abe_Lincoln
If rental Guentzal didn't return Necas, why would rental Buchnevich?


Because rental Guentzel might choose to not resign with Canes and rental Buch might choose to.
13 mars à 10 h 46
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Can't afford Faulk 6.25. 3 off d already


Retained $2 m per in this so Faulk is 4.5 per year. He’s also right handed
13 mars à 10 h 59
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Retained $2 m per in this so Faulk is 4.5 per year. He’s also right handed


But not the shutdown Right d we need. For not much more we can get Demelo or Roy
Quoting: noted
Retained $2 m per in this so Faulk is 4.5 per year. He’s also right handed


Need shutdown Right d. Demelo not much more and more suited. Kevin Hayes? Heck no. Make a trade that makes sense and not a massive cap dump and you can have Joker and Samuelsson but I'd rather waive them than take this 11 million cap dump
13 mars à 11 h 16
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But not the shutdown Right d we need. For not much more we can get Demelo or Roy

Need shutdown Right d. Demelo not much more and more suited. Kevin Hayes? Heck no. Make a trade that makes sense and not a massive cap dump and you can have Joker and Samuelsson but I'd rather waive them than take this 11 million cap dump


I put in Hayes because another Buffalo fan proposed him for Jokiharju straight up. ok
13 mars à 11 h 19
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I put in Hayes because another Buffalo fan proposed him for Jokiharju straight up. ok


Ok. Guess he didn't do his due diligence or he's related but both our guys could be available for something that makes sense for us happily if I have my way
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13 mars à 11 h 32
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The only way a Necas for Buch trade would have occurred went out the window at the TDL.

If the canes trade Necas it will be because they can’t agree to a contract prior to Arb. Why would STL want that? Why would the Canes want an expiring asset back for Necas?

It’s not about over valuing Necas (which some Canes certainly do) - it’s about the fact this doesn’t make sense for either side. I haven’t even commented on the other assets and contract issues involved here.

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Because rental Guentzel might choose to not resign with Canes and rental Buch might choose to.


Quoting: StDetroitBlueWings
Talk about overvaluing Necas
13 mars à 11 h 58
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Quoting: Caniac555
The only way a Necas for Buch trade would have occurred went out the window at the TDL.

If the canes trade Necas it will be because they can’t agree to a contract prior to Arb. Why would STL want that? Why would the Canes want an expiring asset back for Necas?

It’s not about over valuing Necas (which some Canes certainly do) - it’s about the fact this doesn’t make sense for either side. I haven’t even commented on the other assets and contract issues involved here.


It could make sense for the Blues given the age of our core. With Tommer and Kyrou in their mid 20s, Necas fits that exactly more than Buch.

Then in Buch, Canes get a better all around player and can have him half retained for a year then talk extensions if they wish.

Like what you mentioned, a lot of ifs. If Necas doesn't want a contract prior to arb, if Buch price tag too much here. A lot of potential changes could come, just a concept I wouldn't mind.
 
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