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Créé par: Celtic
Équipe: 2024-25 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 10 mars 2024
Publié: 10 mars 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Only trade for Ullmark if he’s at least open to the idea of an extension.

If you’re wondering how Norris would work if he comes back, BIG if he comes back during the season. You’d likely have to trade Joseph and Peeke , and run no scratches. Until then though we can’t wait for him to be healthy again.

Also hard to buy out Korpisalo cause of his term. But that could be possible as well, but my guess is they keep him.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
34 000 000 $
2900 000 $
1850 000 $
2875 000 $
1925 000 $
12 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
38 000 000 $
11 500 000 $
13 000 000 $
11 250 000 $
Transactions
1.
BOS
  1. Batherson, Drake
  2. Chychrun, Jakob
  3. Forsberg, Anton (1 325 000 $ retained)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (OTT)
  5. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (FLA)
Détails additionnels:
3rd party retain for Forsberg, give them a 4th rounder
2.
CHI
  1. Boucher, Tyler
  2. Brännström, Erik
  3. Thomson, Lassi [Droits de RFA]
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (TBL)
  5. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (OTT)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2024
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2287 500 000 $87 525 714 $850 000 $0 $-25 714 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
8 205 714 $8 205 714 $
AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
8 350 000 $8 350 000 $
C
UFA - 7
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
2 950 000 $2 950 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
C
RFA
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
900 000 $900 000 $
AG
RFA
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
863 333 $863 333 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
875 000 $875 000 $
AG
RFA
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
835 000 $835 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 1
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AD
UFA
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
8 050 000 $8 050 000 $
DG
UFA - 8
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Bruins de Boston
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 4
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DG
UFA
Logo de Bruins de Boston
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
805 000 $805 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
7 950 000 $7 950 000 $
C
UFA - 6
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
775 000 $775 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 2

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10 mars à 20 h 23
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That's a massive overpayment for Ullmark. Take out Batherson and its fair.
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10 mars à 20 h 27
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Too much
10 mars à 20 h 38
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Ullmark. NTC
10 mars à 21 h 2
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Hawks easily decline. 5 pieces and the Hawks don't want any of them.
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10 mars à 22 h 3
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Ahh yes, the standard quantity over quality proposal… Hawks decline.
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10 mars à 22 h 14
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What a crazy way to look at player values. Ullmark wouldn't fetch half that and there's not a single part of that Murphy trade chicago would actually want.
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10 mars à 23 h 17
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Quoting: Gofnut999
Ullmark. NTC


He’s got a modified NTC
11 mars à 2 h 1
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Quoting: Celtic
He’s got a modified NTC


And Ottawa is on it🤷🏻‍♂️
11 mars à 12 h 43
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lol that Batherson trade is horrendous. I know Sens goaltending has been the worst in the league this season but giving a top line forward and #2-3 D-man (both 25 y/o) to get a goalie with 1 year left is C.R.A.Z.Y.

Quoting: Hawksguy81
Hawks easily decline. 5 pieces and the Hawks don't want any of them.

Don't think Murphy has that much value left. Brannstrom has very sexy advanced stats and makes less, cost controlled and younger. Very versatile too

Quoting: SociallyHawkward
What a crazy way to look at player values. Ullmark wouldn't fetch half that and there's not a single part of that Murphy trade chicago would actually want.

What is Murphy value you think?
11 mars à 13 h 14
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Quoting: Xspyrit
lol that Batherson trade is horrendous. I know Sens goaltending has been the worst in the league this season but giving a top line forward and #2-3 D-man (both 25 y/o) to get a goalie with 1 year left is C.R.A.Z.Y.


Don't think Murphy has that much value left. Brannstrom has very sexy advanced stats and makes less, cost controlled and younger. Very versatile too


What is Murphy value you think?


Murphy is a perfect top pair defenseman for any team that has a stud offensive LD. His numbers are ugly on the hawks cus everyone's numbers are ugly on the hawks. The team is bad by design. To other teams I think his value is probably a late 1st. For the hawks to actually consider moving him they'd probably want a 1st and a solid RD prospect. He's a leader for the young defenseman on the hawks so for them to give that up they would need an overpay. Now if he requested a trade that price would obviously come down but he seems pretty happy in chicago.

Also brannstrom is a lefty which is the deepest position chicago has.
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11 mars à 14 h 23
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Quoting: Xspyrit
Don't think Murphy has that much value left. Brannstrom has very sexy advanced stats and makes less, cost controlled and younger. Very versatile too


What is Murphy value you think?


Hawks likely don't consider trading Murphy for anything less than a 1st or an equivalent high end prospect. Hawks have been awful (by design) for the past two years. Murphy had no shot at putting up any sort of good stats. He has played most of this season w/ Korchinski, and it appears GM Kyle from Chicago and Coach Luke want that same pair together next season as well.

No hate meant for Branny, but the Hawks aren't looking for any more LD. They're loaded at LD. They've already moved former 1st rounder Nolan Allen over to his off side on the right so he has a path to the NHL.

That proposed package from Ottawa has a lot of pieces but nothing that would be very interesting from the Hawks perspective.
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Quoting: SociallyHawkward
Murphy is a perfect top pair defenseman for any team that has a stud offensive LD. His numbers are ugly on the hawks cus everyone's numbers are ugly on the hawks. The team is bad by design. To other teams I think his value is probably a late 1st. For the hawks to actually consider moving him they'd probably want a 1st and a solid RD prospect. He's a leader for the young defenseman on the hawks so for them to give that up they would need an overpay. Now if he requested a trade that price would obviously come down but he seems pretty happy in chicago.

Also brannstrom is a lefty which is the deepest position chicago has.

Quoting: Hawksguy81
Hawks likely don't consider trading Murphy for anything less than a 1st or an equivalent high end prospect. Hawks have been awful (by design) for the past two years. Murphy had no shot at putting up any sort of good stats. He has played most of this season w/ Korchinski, and it appears GM Kyle from Chicago and Coach Luke want that same pair together next season as well.

No hate meant for Branny, but the Hawks aren't looking for any more LD. They're loaded at LD. They've already moved former 1st rounder Nolan Allen over to his off side on the right so he has a path to the NHL.

That proposed package from Ottawa has a lot of pieces but nothing that would be very interesting from the Hawks perspective.

I'll respond to both quotes since it's the same subject. Note that I am not trying to argue about Chicago needs as I don't know enough about them, simply trying to gauge value. But thanks for the input, I understand it makes no sense to trade a solid veteran for quantity of pieces you don't really need.

Regarding value, Boucher is worth about a 4th (value keeps going down), Thomson a 7th at most (lost pretty much all his value this season), but Brännström is worth a 2nd/3rd even if I would not trade him like that at all. I would trade Chychrun, keep Brannstrom and invest in a RHD. LD is strong as it is with Chabot, Sanderson, Brannstrom and Kleven. Good thing about Brann is he can play basically everywhere in the lineup outside of Center and Goalie. He played 1 game on the 4th line wing and that was the best game from a Sens 4th line in basically the whole rebuild. When Chabot/Sanderson is injured, he gets more ice/responsibility and does really well. He constantly flashes skill and plays smart 2-way hockey. Of course, he can't handle big forwards abut he's quick and smart. His biggest problem I'd say is that he isn't able to create enough offense with his shot.

So at worst you got two 3rd round picks and two 4th round picks. Hard to find exact comparable trade but I see Brenden Dillon traded in 2021 for two 2nd round picks. I think Brannstrom, Boucher and the picks is a bit more valuable.

But yeah, not the type of trade the Hawks would want/need to make. Sell Murphy for the best quality asset possible or just keep him for now.
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