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David Pagnotta has Ottawa linked to Colton Parayko so I traded for him

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Équipe: 2023-24 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 6 mars 2024
Publié: 6 mars 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
https://www.thefourthperiod.com/trade-watch-list-2024
Transactions
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OTT
  1. Parayko, Colton
Détails additionnels:
8. Colton Parayko, RD - St. Louis Blues


Blues GM Doug Armstrong isn’t afraid to make bold moves and Parayko’s name swirled around the trade winds this time last year leading up to the trade deadline. Parayko has a full NTC and six more years left on his contract. It’ll take a big deal, and his approval, to make something happen, but word is the Blues are exploring their options.


TEAMS REPORTEDLY LINKED:
Calgary, Toronto, Ottawa
STL
  1. Chychrun, Jakob
Détails additionnels:
13. Jakob Chychrun, LD - Ottawa Senators


It wouldn’t be a trade deadline without Chychrun on the Trade Watch List. Only now, he’s in Ottawa. Sens GM Steve Staios tried to calm the public waters, but as TFP’s David Pagnotta reported on Jan. 15, the Senators are listening and willing to consider trading him. Chatter picked a week leading into the deadline.


TEAMS REPORTEDLY LINKED:
Washington, Calgary, Los Angeles, St. Louis, Detroit
2.
OTT
  1. Samoskevich, Mackie
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (FLA)
FLA
  1. Tarasenko, Vladimir (2 500 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
According to Bruce Garrioch, Tarasenko has a home somewhere in Fort Lauderdale.


https://ottawasun.com/sports/hockey/nhl/ottawa-senators/garrioch-senators-winger-vladimir-tarasenko-can-pick-and-choose-his-new-home
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    6 mars à 10 h 55
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    I am actually curious to see what blues fans think of this....naturally RD is more valuable then LD so I would imagine they want more, but if they want more of a re-tool than rebuild getting out from under that Parayko contract in the long term has to be appealing.
    6 mars à 11 h 0
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    Pagnotta has been saying the blues will trade Parayko for years without anyone close to the blues organization saying so. He's our most important defender. The only reason we would trade him is to do a full teardown rebuild for picks and prospects. The only reason we would want chychrun is to play him with Parayko, so trading Parayko for Chychrun makes no sense for us
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    6 mars à 11 h 1
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    David Pagnotta makes stuff up for clicks. Blues decline.

    https://x.com/andystrickland/status/1765383024319828254?s=20
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    6 mars à 11 h 1
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    Wouldn’t STL need to retain or add a bit?
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    6 mars à 11 h 3
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    Wouldn’t STL need to retain or add a bit?


    such a dumb statement. Devils wouldn't be floundering if they had Parayko as he's a defender who actually defends...
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    6 mars à 11 h 17
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    no thanks on Parayko, Colton, he sucks and would become OTTs worst Dman
    6 mars à 11 h 49
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    such a dumb statement. Devils wouldn't be floundering if they had Parayko as he's a defender who actually defends...


    But Parayko doesn’t defend
    6 mars à 11 h 51
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    But Parayko doesn’t defend


    Weird that stats don't agree with you...

    https://x.com/JFreshHockey/status/1763256765758533677?s=20
    6 mars à 12 h 1
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    Quoting: NHLfan10506
    Wouldn’t STL need to retain or add a bit?


    Uhhhhhh what?????

    One year of 2nd line meh Chych does not even sniff Parayko. Cmon.
    6 mars à 12 h 2
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    But Parayko doesn’t defend


    He's literally in the top 10 if not top 5 of nearly all the individual D stats. Against the toughest competition of any Dman. Half the time with the Blues 3rd and 4th lines. What are you on about, man?
    6 mars à 12 h 3
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    Pagnotta is lying to you. As usual. He knows nothing about the Blues. Ever.
    6 mars à 12 h 35
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    Weird that stats don't agree with you...

    https://x.com/JFreshHockey/status/1763256765758533677?s=20


    Quoting: mokumboi
    He's literally in the top 10 if not top 5 of nearly all the individual D stats. Against the toughest competition of any Dman. Half the time with the Blues 3rd and 4th lines. What are you on about, man?


    Player GAR (percentile)

    Parayko
    -- ES Off 62
    -- ES Def 93
    -- PP Off 22
    -- PK Def 3
    -- Overall 71

    Chychrun
    -- ES Off 87
    -- ES Def 75
    -- PP Off 93
    -- PK Def 61
    -- Overall 91

    Zub
    -- ES Off 91
    -- ES Def 96
    -- PP Off 22
    -- PK Def 93
    -- Overall 95

    Dumoulin
    -- ES Off 19
    -- ES Def 97
    -- PP Off 22
    -- PK Def 20
    -- Overall 72


    Parayko is more similar to Dumo...but the contract is too high.
    6 mars à 12 h 46
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    Quoting: mokumboi
    Uhhhhhh what?????

    One year of 2nd line meh Chych does not even sniff Parayko. Cmon.


    You know what ?

    You're right.



    Given what Tarasenko was just traded for, I'd be surprised if Ottawa got a couple of seconds for Chychrun.

    Steve Staios is now Pierre Dorion 2.0.
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    6 mars à 23 h 54
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    Player GAR (percentile)

    Parayko
    -- ES Off 62
    -- ES Def 93
    -- PP Off 22
    -- PK Def 3
    -- Overall 71

    Chychrun
    -- ES Off 87
    -- ES Def 75
    -- PP Off 93
    -- PK Def 61
    -- Overall 91

    Zub
    -- ES Off 91
    -- ES Def 96
    -- PP Off 22
    -- PK Def 93
    -- Overall 95

    Dumoulin
    -- ES Off 19
    -- ES Def 97
    -- PP Off 22
    -- PK Def 20
    -- Overall 72


    Parayko is more similar to Dumo...but the contract is too high.



    tears of joy

    Dude, you need to put down the analytics and watch hockey. I say "He's literally in the top 10 if not top 5 of nearly all the individual D stats. Against the toughest competition of any Dman. Half the time with the Blues 3rd and 4th lines." - which consists of two sets of objective data facts and a widely agreed upon vaguely analytic thing, and you return fire with a barrage of the most analytic-y analytics known to man.

    And you say it proves Parayko is like Dumo. And you think that's reasonable. Based on those analytics.

    Booooooy, that is not an advertisement for those analytics. More like a "wizard" behind the curtain exposé.
    6 mars à 23 h 58
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    tears of joy

    Dude, you need to put down the analytics and watch hockey. I say "He's literally in the top 10 if not top 5 of nearly all the individual D stats. Against the toughest competition of any Dman. Half the time with the Blues 3rd and 4th lines." - which consists of two sets of objective data facts and a widely agreed upon vaguely analytic thing, and you return fire with a barrage of the most analytic-y analytics known to man.

    And you say it proves Parayko is like Dumo. And you think that's reasonable. Based on those analytics.

    Booooooy, that is not an advertisement for those analytics. More like a "wizard" behind the curtain exposé.


    I am using analytics to respond to someone using analytics…

    (And I watch too much hockey)
    7 mars à 0 h 18
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    I am using analytics to respond to someone using analytics…

    (And I watch too much hockey)


    I mentioned individual stats and objective data. And I mentioned competition, which depending on the source may or may not be partially tied to analytics.

    In no way was I 'using analytics". At all.
    7 mars à 0 h 22
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    I mentioned individual stats and objective data. And I mentioned competition, which depending on the source may or may not be partially tied to analytics.

    In no way was I 'using analytics". At all.


    Ok. It was noted.
     
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