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Créé par: SlimTJ100
Équipe: 2023-24 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 2 mars 2024
Publié: 2 mars 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Am I close? This is a very difficult trade to make for Drury, Schneider is the real deal

Rangers fill the two biggest holes
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  1. Schneider, Braden
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (NYR)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2026 (NYR)
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2 mars à 0 h 25
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Just out of curiosity, why should Frank Vatrano be worth less than Jake Muzzin?

That's the package I would accept for Frankie alone.
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2 mars à 0 h 30
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Just out of curiosity, why should Frank Vatrano be worth less than Jake Muzzin?

That's the package I would accept for Frankie alone.

You guys want a lot I get it. But how much more sheesh. Schneider is damn near an untouchable. And a RHD you guys crave
2 mars à 0 h 32
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Just out of curiosity, why should Frank Vatrano be worth less than Jake Muzzin?

That's the package I would accept for Frankie alone.


I’d accept with Lundy included if that was a 2024 1st
2 mars à 0 h 35
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I’d accept with Lundy included if that was a 2024 1st


That’s fine. You guys are impossible to please tho my god

I don’t know which drafts are better then others but any of the next 3 you can have
2 mars à 0 h 37
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You guys want a lot I get it. But how much more sheesh. Schneider is damn near an untouchable. And a RHD you guys crave

You didn't answer my question.
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Modifié 2 mars à 0 h 49
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You didn't answer my question.

Ooooh a tough guy 😳
I really don’t know what you mean. Jake Muzzin hasn’t been relevant in years

I think I’d move on to other things after this conversation tho. Schneider and first is a lot. Don’t push people away or anything, and you’ll get nada except 35-40 meaningless goals next year too. Lucky you. Maybe you want your goalies facing 50 shots a night idk
2 mars à 2 h 4
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Just out of curiosity, why should Frank Vatrano be worth less than Jake Muzzin?

That's the package I would accept for Frankie alone.


I feel like we gotta be a bit more real guys. Vatrano for Schneider straight up feels like a win in my book
2 mars à 3 h 15
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Quoting: SlimTJ100
Ooooh a tough guy 😳
I really don’t know what you mean. Jake Muzzin hasn’t been relevant in years

I think I’d move on to other things after this conversation tho. Schneider and first is a lot. Don’t push people away or anything, and you’ll get nada except 35-40 meaningless goals next year too. Lucky you. Maybe you want your goalies facing 50 shots a night idk

You act like YOU are doing US a favor by taking our best scorer off our hands. No, no, no, no, no. We are giving YOU what YOU think is the missing piece that's going to get you over the top, in return for a guy who, however good he is or how high his future ceiling may be, is third on your depth chart at RhD and unlikely to rise higher as long as Fox and Trouba are healthy. As you yourself admit in this ACGM, Schneider is expendable.

If Muzzin is too far in the past to be relevant to you, fine, look at the Lindholm and Monahan trades this calendar year. If a valuable player on an expiring contract is worth a first, then a valuable player who has a whole 'nother season on his deal and thus two playoff runs for you should be worth substantially more. I may be ambitious in wanting Schneider as well as the first, or even greedy as my esteemed colleague @jded says, but I think that the point is still valid.
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
You act like YOU are doing US a favor by taking our best scorer off our hands. No, no, no, no, no. We are giving YOU what YOU think is the missing piece that's going to get you over the top, in return for a guy who, however good he is or how high his future ceiling may be, is third on your depth chart at RhD and unlikely to rise higher as long as Fox and Trouba are healthy. As you yourself admit in this ACGM, Schneider is expendable.

If Muzzin is too far in the past to be relevant to you, fine, look at the Lindholm and Monahan trades this calendar year. If a valuable player on an expiring contract is worth a first, then a valuable player who has a whole 'nother season on his deal and thus two playoff runs for you should be worth substantially more. I may be ambitious in wanting Schneider as well as the first, or even greedy as my esteemed colleague jded says, but I think that the point is still valid.


Man that’s a lot of bs for not saying much, and he’s off the table. I’ll move on
2 mars à 8 h 55
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You act like YOU are doing US a favor by taking our best scorer off our hands. No, no, no, no, no. We are giving YOU what YOU think is the missing piece that's going to get you over the top, in return for a guy who, however good he is or how high his future ceiling may be, is third on your depth chart at RhD and unlikely to rise higher as long as Fox and Trouba are healthy. As you yourself admit in this ACGM, Schneider is expendable.

If Muzzin is too far in the past to be relevant to you, fine, look at the Lindholm and Monahan trades this calendar year. If a valuable player on an expiring contract is worth a first, then a valuable player who has a whole 'nother season on his deal and thus two playoff runs for you should be worth substantially more. I may be ambitious in wanting Schneider as well as the first, or even greedy as my esteemed colleague jded says, but I think that the point is still valid.


Do you actually believe that Vatrano and Muzzin are comparable in any way? Is this because they have term? Because in no way are they the same player, not the same position. Vatrano almost 30 has been nothing but a middle 6 guy regardless of team. Being labeled top scorer on team isn’t a compliment to his skills, it’s an obvious sign that the team is just that bad(not attacking in anyway but it’s factual and shows in the standings). Muzzin played top line D and had 2 cups. He wasn’t just a guy that played top line he was a guy that noticeably made his partner better. Dmen always costs more, their trade value is always higher. Chiarot is a great example of how Dman cost more than forwards. Vatrano has value but nowhere near what you think and certainly not Muzzin value.
2 mars à 11 h 47
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Zero chance we trade Schneider. Frank's cap doesn't fit next year, we need it for a 3c & Ds not Ws
 
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