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Markstrom not happy with Conroy

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Équipe: 2023-24 Devils du New Jersey
Date de création initiale: 1 mars 2024
Publié: 1 mars 2024
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Jacob Markstrom:

“The whole situation and everything, am I happy about that? No I’m not. And I think the whole trade situation could’ve been handled differently from up top.”

And then Pierre LeBrun…

“The Devils have informed the Flames they would be willing now to take on Markstrom without salary retention.”

So if the price was Holtz for Markstrom and some retention…does that mean price goes down? Or maybe, taken with Seravalli’s comments earlier about Hanifin nuking trades, does it mean Devils could be back in okay for the preferred combo package?

Either way, Conroy has appears to have lost his leverage here.
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1 mars à 15 h 49
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That’s not getting both Hanny and Marky.
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Lol that's not how that works at all
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The whole "we don't need to trade him" **** is out the window now
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How do you figure Conroy has lost the leverage?

Devils want the player Conroy has the player. They don't have to trade Markstrom and Hanifin has an 8 team NTC. Lets say that's all of Canada, AZ, and pick whatever bad team at the time. Even if there are 8 out of the 16 playoff teams rights its still a massive market with other teams chasing. He's going to go to the highest bidder and Markstrom can stay in CGY
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Is that just what we are jumping on as "up top" or maybe the ownership who refuses to retain? Maybe even leaks from a New Jersey source? Maybe Conroy. The comment is vague and everyone has already ran to most dramatic route possible.
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Is that just what we are jumping on as "up top" or maybe the ownership who refuses to retain? Maybe even leaks from a New Jersey source? Maybe Conroy. The comment is vague and everyone has already ran to most dramatic route possible.


"leaks from a new jersey source" lmao.
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No first in a trade involving a top pairing dman and a top 5 goalie this year is absolutely hilarious

And no the Flames haven't lost leverage because they can simply keep Markstrom and trade away Hanifin to the highest bidder so you guys would still have to pay a premium for both, id argue its actually Fitz who's lost leverage because he's said that he'll offer the same package without retention so clearly he's desperate to make the playoffs, while the Flames just sold off one of their biggest trade pieces so they're clearly in sell mode and not worried about the playoffs.
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Quoting: mmccRed198913
How do you figure Conroy has lost the leverage?

Devils want the player Conroy has the player. They don't have to trade Markstrom and Hanifin has an 8 team NTC. Lets say that's all of Canada, AZ, and pick whatever bad team at the time. Even if there are 8 out of the 16 playoff teams rights its still a massive market with other teams chasing. He's going to go to the highest bidder and Markstrom can stay in CGY


Players love playing for people who treat them like crap.

Players also talk
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The whole "we don't need to trade him" **** is out the window now


Why do they need to trade him? Lol
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"leaks from a new jersey source" lmao.


Is completely off the table?? There's no mention of who "up top" is. Most likely option is ownership but why not run to most dramatic option possible
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Players love playing for people who treat them like crap.

Players also talk


I mean that's fine but it doesn't mean here I'm going to trade you to a team for a discount return when you're a major asset so you can be happy.
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Why do they need to trade him? Lol


Did you see his recent comments?
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Did you see his recent comments?


Just because he’s unhappy doesn’t mean the GM has to trade him

Boo hoo cry a river while you make $6m for 3 more years
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Just because he’s unhappy doesn’t mean the GM has to trade him

Boo hoo cry a river while you make $6m for 3 more years


6 million dollar 34 year old who is unhappy. What a delightful thing to have in your locker room. Price isn't going up.
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How do you figure Conroy has lost the leverage?

Devils want the player Conroy has the player. They don't have to trade Markstrom and Hanifin has an 8 team NTC. Lets say that's all of Canada, AZ, and pick whatever bad team at the time. Even if there are 8 out of the 16 playoff teams rights its still a massive market with other teams chasing. He's going to go to the highest bidder and Markstrom can stay in CGY


The player okayed a trade to New Jersey. Said he was not happy about losing dmen. Now just called out his GM. He is 34 years old on a rebuilding team in middle of sell-off. He had rough season last year. His value will never be higher. And now he is not happy.

Hanifin, according to Seravalli, has been nuking deals saying he won’t sign for teams that are bidding the highest. It is depressing the market for him.

Fitzy wanted both players as package deal. Conroy wanted to split up, thinking higher returns separately. But if there is only one buyer for Markstrom, and Hanifin offers do not appear to be as high as expected, maybe NJD offer is best route for Calgary.

We shall see.
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Quoting: WranglerWranglin
Is completely off the table?? There's no mention of who "up top" is. Most likely option is ownership but why not run to most dramatic option possible


In what universe does "up top" translate to New Jersey? Are you being intentionally dense?
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In what universe does "up top" translate to New Jersey? Are you being intentionally dense?


"Up top" the people above Markstrom in a position of working through the trade and trade talks, people who leaked information from up top so on so forth. If you choose to be as narrow minded as you are, you do you girl
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6 million dollar 34 year old who is unhappy. What a delightful thing to have in your locker room. Price isn't going up.


Conroy doesn’t owe him anything. Brand new GM, runs it how he sees fit and probably wants to win and not rebuild. If they keep winning and markstrom plays well, it’ll be all forgotten about

The players seem happier with Lindholm and Sutter gone, and maybe Markstrom is part of the “problem”
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That is a joke of an offer
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Quoting: WranglerWranglin
"Up top" the people above Markstrom in a position of working through the trade and trade talks, people who leaked information from up top so on so forth. If you choose to be as narrow minded as you are, you do you girl


REACHHHHHH.
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Quoting: WranglerWranglin
Is that just what we are jumping on as "up top" or maybe the ownership who refuses to retain? Maybe even leaks from a New Jersey source? Maybe Conroy. The comment is vague and everyone has already ran to most dramatic route possible.


I think the quote is straightforward. He is not happy that he wasn’t traded. Watch the video.

The leaks are definitely not coming from NJD side. If so, we would hear just as much about negotiations with NSH on Saros, with ANA on Gibson, with CBJ on Merzlikins, etc. But there has been very little on those.
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Quoting: Rags21
Conroy doesn’t owe him anything. Brand new GM, runs it how he sees fit and probably wants to win and not rebuild. If they keep winning and markstrom plays well, it’ll be all forgotten about

The players seem happier with Lindholm and Sutter gone, and maybe Markstrom is part of the “problem”


They don't have to trade him.

But again, 34 year old goalie, at the peak of his value.

Said value only goes down as he ages. Even if he keeps playing well more options exist for NJD in the offseason. If he gets hurt, or his play drops off, then you're stuck with an unhappy 35 year old making 6 mill that nobody will pay anything for.

In terms of trying to win, do they really wanna end up in that limbo and give up a top 15 pick to MTL? I doubt it.

Maybe they try and compete in 2026. Will markstrom even be worth 6 million then? Doubtful.

They can keep him, it would be terrible asset management tho
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I think the quote is straightforward. He is not happy that he wasn’t traded. Watch the video.

The leaks are definitely not coming from NJD side. If so, we would hear just as much about negotiations with NSH on Saros, with ANA on Gibson, with CBJ on Merzlikins, etc. But there has been very little on those.


No, NJD sources are clearly leaking to places like "CalgaryPuck forum"
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Lol that's not how that works at all


Markstrom says he is unhappy with how Conroy handled trade. Minutes later, CGY sources claim that Fitzy returned to the table.

What do you think is going on here?
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