Lybushkin cheap and u can walk away from if it dont work and to pkg him with an almost 30+ goal scorer in Vatano for 1.5 seasons for 1st + 4th or even a lower pick like a 5th thats fine

Peeke = 2.75m for 3 more seasons hell nah

Guy is Bad. At least we know Rielly can play with Lybushkin and have good enough results. Peeke should be in the AHL with how hes been these past 2 seasons heck this year CBJ be playing him 15 mins from his old 21mins and he still bad

25 years old sure but man its just ew ew ew

The eye test dont support him, the stats dont support him, he would just be a waste of cap space


If he was the last option out there would rather just stay put and waste a 70 goal Matthews season then spend a dime on him. Only way I take him is if CBJ ask for FC eat 50% and give us a nice prospect or two

To further and yes this was back in Dec but still hell nah



https://twitter.com/ilikethejackets/status/1734646003150537095/photo/2

Friend actually suggested some not bad idea's for packaged trades

Fabbro + Novak or TVR + Dowd

Honestly not bad to consider either

Fabbro + Novak is 100x better than TVR and Dowd, but Nashville isnt selling

They be fools once again

Should sell like they did last year heck even PHI in its position be eyeing potential sell offs.

As Novak, Carrier, etc walking for nothing aint a good idea, and they got to many Dman where Fabbro has been a HS 13 times

I know they won 6 in a row but meh sell the rentals as they be middle of ground no mans land team

Yeah this is ideally what I'd like for to happen. I think this team needs at least one top quality RD and another RD who maybe is a notch below that top RD.

Interesting option but 4.4 for the next 3 years after this one tough when hoping for a rebound.

I don't really want either guy to be our acquisition, but what do you mean "everything you think Lyubushkin does"? He unquestionably does do those things, and at a better level than Peeke, imo.

Rielly-Lilly
Brodie-Andersson
Benoit-McCabe


3/6 are signed for another year
2/6 are RFAs
Brodie should sign for cheaper or can be replaced

I'd personally go after Andersson or Boqvist depending on assets...

Maybe something like Andersson, then go after a cheaper forward...

Or go Boqvist+Kuraly/Olivier/Texier


Rielly-Lilly
Brodie-Andersson
Benoit-McCabe

OR

Rielly-Boqvist
Benoit-McCabe
Brodie-Lilly

we should trade fore on of Roy, Gudbranson, Savard at the TDL and then trade for ferraro in the offseason

Obviously with the TDL fast approaching, there is a ton of different theories surrounding what the Leafs plan on doing. The thing is, we honestly don't have a ton of flexibility. Here are some important things to note:

- Pontus Holmberg will lose his waiver exemption by playing tonight, so he will be on the active roster for the remainder of the season
- Leafs will carry 3 goalies
- Jarnkrok should be coming off of LTIR relatively soon, Timmins still on IR but progressing well
-23 man roster (with Woll and Jarnkrok back) has only $43,550 in cap space
- 1st rounder is likely going to be kept

In order to add any significant pieces, the Leafs would have to send out a matching salary. There are no obvious choices on the main roster when it comes to clearing cap space. Assuming Gregor and Lagesson are waived, we then have 1.5m in cap space. Any trade would also likely see Robertson get dealt seeing as though he is the only valuable asset that isn't an everyday player for the Leafs, meaning we could bring in someone making 2.39m. The only real part of this roster that can be realistically assessed by trade right now is the defense, where a 2nd / 3rd pairing defenseman is needed. Are there any defensemen out there capable of playing second pair minutes making only 2.39m (or ~4.8m + retention?). I have a feeling the Leafs are gunning for Hanifin, and if they strike out on him then we are just going to stand pat. There are really no notable forwards worth trading for (aside from guys like Texier and Toropchenko), and the defense market is sparce. Hanifin is THE guy when it comes to defensemen, and I would guess that he is a player Brad would move the 1st for assuming he will extend in Toronto.

The criteria the Leafs want is so specific that it's pretty easy to figure out some targets, but I really doubt we see anything come to fruition within the next week or so. The Leafs just seem like they are going to be super stingy. Plus, Brad isn't really much of a TDL guy.

10 Defenseman That Check The Boxes (Ranked in order of how much I like them)

1. Marcus Pettersson (50% retained); Pie in the sky addition, unsure if Pens are selling but if they are then this is our guy. Defensively sound, has term, could be 2LD
2. Noah Hanifin (50% retained); Best defenseman who is for sure available for trade, obvious stipulation is needed a contract extension
3. Dante Fabbro; Not sure if Preds will be sellers, but Fabbro would be a savvy, young, cheap addition
4. Will Borgen; Physical young-ish defenseman, not sure what Seattle's plans are
5. Adam Larsson (50% retained); Reportedly unavailable for trade, don't love his play this season but if he doesnt cost a ton to get, he could be a nice commodity at 2m
6. Alex Carrier; Good underlying numbers, able to produce offensively while being sound defensively. Easy to extend
7. Matt Dumba (50% retained); Would have to cost next to nothing, and the Leafs would be gambling on a huge resurgence. His physicality could be nice
8. Andrew Peeke; Physical, shot blocking defenseman with term who should cost little to nothing to acquire
9. David Savard; Solid vet with Cup winning experience, but not sold on him this season. He's been bad defensively (could just be a product of playing in MTL). Plus nobody likes seeing us trade with the Habs
10. Joel Edmundson; Very cheap physical vet defenseman

Boqvist is a offensive Dman. If we need that we got Timmins

Andersson has some defensive flaws but is a good PKer and in the past has put up better defensive numbers

Thats the guy to target

Gudbranson sucks

Roy wont be available as LA in the playoffs/race

Savard's interesting but slow.

Ferraro aint really what TOR needs as next year their LD is pretty much established

Rielly
McCabe
Benoit

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Just insert facepalm meme and fill in the blanks as to why _______ - _________

Marcus Petterson would work if we needed a LD

Noah Hanifin same as above

Fabbro is a gamble but one I would try. Guys probs out of NSH anyways as they have 7 Dman and I doubt he likes the 13 HS

Borgen is a guy I see a lot but dont see what all the hype is. Hes basically someone that if u put in your top pair your blue line be thin

Larsson's my guy as his style fits so well with Rielly but sadly SEA is gonna hold on to him

Carrier is undersized and yea in the playoffs vs. BOS or FLA hell nah he gonna get bullied

Dumba's bad. Just straight up bad. The offense is gone and so nothing to cover that bad defense. Him with Rielly would not be fun at all

Peeke sucks. Like straight up this kids not an NHLer. Unless they eat 50% and send us a prospect back for FC have no interest

Savard's slow and dont seem top 4 anymore. Like maybe he would work with Rielly due to the styles of play but man if not 3.5m for him's not great

Joel Edmunson = Benoit so no need, also LD


Basically of everyone here its either do you want an all LD system (after reading that Cassidy article NTU), risking Savard, or gambling on Fabbro



There is another name but Blues would have to do some serious ret on him = Parayko

Yes there has been bad but he and Rielly did show chemistry when they played in the world cup

6'6 228 pounds, has term and might be worth a look especially if Blues ret 2-2.5m (4m-4.5m). Now this is a gamble but if you can reignite the chemistry he and Rielly had in that WC you could have a solid big top pair

Evaluating these guys through the lens of being Mo's partner is not fair. Like I said, we've got McCabe and Lili to play with Mo. Get a 2nd pairing defender and we are good. Make a push for Roy this offseason. Problem solved

As said before why would TOR want to break up Brodie-Liligren and Benoit-McCabe

It makes 0 sense

The whole thing for this TDL is finding MO a partner lul

Rielly-?
Brodie-Liligren
Benoit-McCabe


Only if they got RA would I say to split Brodie-Liligren but seems that guys not available either. So basically its once again Rielly partner hunting time

Good luck with that lmao

Well they seem to find one every year so dont have much concern

They know what type he likes to play with and a former partner is available

Got a feeling hes coming in some PKG'D deal

Dont know why u make it seem like its hard lul. Its been a tradition for them to split Rielly-Brodie and find him a partner.

Because who is there? We aren't going to move the 1st for a rental, Minten and Cowan are untouchable, and the market is so dry. You keep throwing out names like Lyubushkin because physical, defensive defenseman typically do well with Mo. Well what is Jake McCabe??? Go out and get another LD to lock down the second pair, and get Rielly and McCabe together. Hanifin and Pettersson are the only real legit Top 4 defensemen making reasonable amounts of money on teams slated to be sellers. Either one of those guys on the second pair would round this defense out very nicely

Rielly - McCabe
Pettersson / Hanifin - Liljegren
Benoit - Brodie

We know Larsson is a no go, so what other RHD are out there? Fabbro is too much of a gamble, granted I would like to add him to see what he could do, but the Leafs need someone we can trust to come in and make an impact.

Leafs factoring in LTIR and some reassignments, and money in and out trades can have up to 4.75m in cap space

They have never been shy of maximizing before.

Leafs rn can bring in Vatrano + Lybushkin 50% ret or TVR + Mantha (50% ret) with not much headache. Would factor a Jones move but they can always spend a 7th on a goalie whose already passed through waivers if need be.


As said before you dont split up pairs that work I dont know why you cant comprehend that. If it works leave it

Benoit-McCabe has been good along with Brodie-Liligren

The whole thing rn is k find MO a partner why mix and match the other pairings when we know the other two work but just dont have that guy to play with him rn

Rielly-?
Brodie-Liligren
Benoit-McCabe

Not what I wanted to say, I fixed my mistake in an edit.

Benoit-McCabe has been good along with Brodie-Liligren. Leave them be

No need to mix and match pairings again. Find someone to play with Mo and keep the other two together

Rielly-?
Brodie-Liligren
Benoit-McCabe

As why break up what worked on that 5 game winstreak

Agree to disagree, bringing in a depth defenseman and thrusting him onto the top pair doesn't work. You kind of have to shake up the pairings we have if you want to address the blueline in a meaningful way. I don't care how bad Rielly - Brodie has been this year, I can assure you that Rielly - Lyubushkin would be way worse. TVR is a fine player, but he's making 3m for 3 years. I wouldn't hate it but he doesnt move the needle. Either get a 2LD with term and ride out this season or don't make a move at all.

I hate that we are acting like no other D-combinations would be good. Yes Benoit - McCabe has been good, but I feel like Rielly - McCabe and Hanifin/Pettersson - Liljegren would also dominate. Excuse me for not wanting Simon Benoit in our top 4 come playoff time lmfao.

The parameters the Leafs have set for themselves limit our TDL approach significantly. We want an impact defenseman but don't want to pay a premium unless they have term. We are keeping 3 goalies on the main roster. Jarnkrok is coming back soon so his LTIR assignment doesn't mean much. The only guys that make any sense at this stage are Hanifin or Pettersson IMO. If we can't get those guys, then why even bother spending?