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Créé par: Larrylnh
Équipe: 2025-26 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 23 févr. 2024
Publié: 23 févr. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
1. MONTREAL CORE
-I think at the only attackers that are untouchable are Nick Suzuki, Juraj Slafkovsky, Cole Caufield and Kirby Dach.
At defense, I'll say that Kaiden Guhle, David Reinbacher and Lane Hutson are untradable.
In net, there is no big guy like Carey Price but I think that Jacob Fowler shouldn't be trade.
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2. THE NEEDS
-The first thing I see when I look to the lineup is that excluding Caufield that will put 40-45 goals in his prime, there is no real goal scorer. Suzuki, Slafkovsky and Roy have the potential to put 30 goals in a season but we need another goal scorer machine. A top 6 forward that could score 40 goals is a target for Montreal.
-A top 4 at the blue line is another thing that Montreal could look for. We have a lot of prospects at the blue line but I don't think any of them could play on the first pair with Guhle. Mailloux, Xhekaj, Struble, Engstrom and Barron are all good prospects but I think they are bottom pairing and can play top 4 when there are injuries.
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3. END OF 2024 SEASON
The player we absolutely have to trade:
-Jake Allen, the 3 goalies rotation has to stop.
-David Savard, younger defenseman want to play and deserve to play.
The players that we don't need:
-Tanner Pearson, free agent at the end of the season.
-Jonathan Kovacevic, better option at the blue line.
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4. 2024 TDL
-Montreal get Arthur Kaliyev, a young forward that need some fresh air. I see him being trade for Jake Allen. Kings need a goaltender, it's probably their weakness.
-David Savard for a 2nd round pick is fair in my opinion. Savard could be useful for Edmonton during their playoff run, he can be in their top 4.
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5. MONTREAL LINEUP FOR END OF 2024 SEASON
Caufield-Suzuki-Slafkovsky
Roy-Newhook-Gallagher
Pearson-Evans-Anderson
Pezzetta-White-Ylonen
Matheson-Guhle
Struble-Kovacevic
Harris-Xhekaj
Montembeault
Primeau
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6. 2024 DRAFT
-With the 7th NHL pick, Montreal are proud to select, Cole Eiserman. This guy will fill a need. A pure goal scorer. Here is my top 3 prospects that I want Montreal to draft. 1. Celebrini, 2. Lindstrom, 3. Eiserman. I think Eiserman will be the only one still available.
-Montreal decide to trade their second first round pick.
Zegras for 22th overall, 60th overall, Barron and Heineman. This is pretty fair if you look the Eichel trade.
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7. 2024 FREE AGENCY
Montreal RFA:
Arber Xhekaj, bridge contract, 3x1 500 000$
Jesse Ylonen, bridge contract 3x1 000 000$
Arthur Kaliyev, bridge contract 2x975 000$
Tuch, Hutson, Engstrom, Fowler- Entry level contract
Montreal UFA:
Mitchell Stephens, 2 way, 3x950 000$
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8. MONTREAL 2024-25 LINEUP
Slafkovsky-Suzuki-Dach
Eiserman-Zegras-Caufield
Krebs -Newhook-Roy
Harvey-Pinard-Evans-Kaliyev
Guhle-Reinbacher
Matheson-Mailloux
Struble-Xhejak
Montembeault
Primeau
Harris, Kovacevic, Pezzetta, Armia, Gallagher
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9. SUMMER 2024 MOVES
Dvorak and Anderson out. Buyout if nobody want them.
Convince Luke Tuch to sign a contract and trade him immediately after for Krebs.
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10. 2025 TDL
Matheson is not in the same age window as the core. He has to go. I think it will be good to trade him one for one for Lundell if they are interested.
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11. 2025 OFFSEASON
-Sign Guhle 7 500 000$ for 8 years
-Sign Slafkovsky 7 850 000$ for 8 years
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
1950 000 $
3975 000 $
3975 000 $
3975 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
31 500 000 $
31 000 000 $
2975 000 $
21 400 000 $
87 500 000 $
52 500 000 $
87 850 000 $
810 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
3950 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Eiserman, Cole
3975 000 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Kaliyev, Arthur [Droits de RFA]
LAK
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (MIN)
Détails additionnels:
Jake Allen 50% retained
2.
MTL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
EDM
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2024 (MTL)
Détails additionnels:
David Savard
3.
ANA
  1. Barron, Justin [Droits de RFA]
  2. Heineman, Emil [Droits de RFA]
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (WPG)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (COL)
4.
MTL
  1. Krebs, Peyton [Droits de RFA]
BUF
  1. Tuch, Luke
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (MTL)
5.
MTL
  1. Lundell, Anton [Droits de RFA]
6.
MTL
  1. Seider, Moritz [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
It might seem crazy to see Seider being trade but I think the value is fair
DET
  1. Engström, Adam
  2. Farrell, Sean [Droits de RFA]
  3. Mesar, Filip
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (MTL)
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (CGY)
  6. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (MTL)
  7. Choix de 3e ronde en 2026 (MTL)
Rachats de contrats
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2183 500 000 $77 499 167 $0 $1 500 000 $6 000 833 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Eiserman, Cole
975 000 $975 000 $
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 5
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7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
AD, AG
RFA
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
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3 362 500 $3 362 500 $
C, AD
RFA - 1
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7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 6
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2 900 000 $2 900 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
C, AG
RFA
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
835 000 $835 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
C, AG
RFA
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
885 000 $885 000 $
C
RFA - 1
975 000 $975 000 $
AD, AG
RFA
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
DG/DD
RFA
10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
DD
RFA
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 150 000 $3 150 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
975 000 $975 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 500 000 $$2M)
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
975 000 $975 000 $
G
RFA
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DG/DD
RFA
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
875 000 $875 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 1

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23 févr. à 19 h 11
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The Kings need players that make them better for the playoffs if they move Kaliyev. Allen is not an improvement from Talbot or Rittich.
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The Kings need players that make them better for the playoffs if they move Kaliyev. Allen is not an improvement from Talbot or Rittich.

I heard somewhere that King's goalie had some difficulties this season, maybe that's not true...
23 févr. à 19 h 17
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I heard somewhere that King's goalie had some difficulties this season, maybe that's not true...


I mean a few games, but look at their stats vs. Allen. Can’t see Allen being the answer at net over those two.
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23 févr. à 19 h 17
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it takes a lot to acquire someone like zegras
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23 févr. à 19 h 21
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Love the depth of this breakdown, you put a lot of thought into it!

From an Oilers perspective, Savard wouldn't be my favourite option but he is someone I could see us trading for if we can get money in money out. I don't mean we have to be trading money back to the Habs, I think the value you said is fair.

For the other trades:
- I don't know what the value of Allen will be, it is highly dependent on other goalies getting traded. I could see this happening if he is the only goalie available, it would be nitpicking to say oh it's not a good enough pick, I just assume Kings fans will want more. Kaliyev has been a killer every time I've seen him play.
- I don't think the value is terrible. I just think you're going to have to look at a Zegras deal almost as an Eichel-like trade. I'm not saying they're comparable but his ceiling is close to Eichel's. But I like the idea of MTL trading for him given how poorly they have drafted. I just think that will have to be the MTL pick (between 4-10) and not a pick between 26-32.
- I don't think it's enough value on Krebs. This one is worse than the Kaliyev one imo, should at the minimum be a 2nd.
- The Lundell trade has no shot of happening, especially considering Matheson has been in Florida before and they shipped him out.
- The last one is unrealistic (you basically said as much) but the value is pretty far off imo. Imagine if you had Seider and were to even consider trading him, you'd want way more. I'm talking 3+ 1sts and a player in the NHL producing like Caufield. I think Caufield and 3 1sts is closer to fair for Seider than what you proposed.

All and all, appreciate the thought and effort.

But my thoughts:
1. Kaliyev and Krebs probably both cost a 2nd and prospect (at least that range).
2. Savard trade is semi-fair, I like the thought of Allen to LAK.
3. Zegras would net the 7th overall pick you mentioned and other stuff. I still think the Habs should do that.
4. Lundell trade is not the right spot or player, but you should trade Matheson.
5. Seider trade is unrealistic and undervalued.
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23 févr. à 19 h 23
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: You're totally delusional if you honestly think that's a fair offer for Moritz Seider, Without any high end pieces coming back from Montreal. We'll give you Veleno and Fabbri for Slafkovsky and Reinbacher. Yeah both deal are pure rubbish.

LOL we don't need LHD we already have about 17 within our pipeline plus two smallish wingers for a future Norris guy just isn't going to cut it.
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23 févr. à 19 h 27
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Love the depth of this breakdown, you put a lot of thought into it!

From an Oilers perspective, Savard wouldn't be my favourite option but he is someone I could see us trading for if we can get money in money out. I don't mean we have to be trading money back to the Habs, I think the value you said is fair.

For the other trades:
- I don't know what the value of Allen will be, it is highly dependent on other goalies getting traded. I could see this happening if he is the only goalie available, it would be nitpicking to say oh it's not a good enough pick, I just assume Kings fans will want more. Kaliyev has been a killer every time I've seen him play.
- I don't think the value is terrible. I just think you're going to have to look at a Zegras deal almost as an Eichel-like trade. I'm not saying they're comparable but his ceiling is close to Eichel's. But I like the idea of MTL trading for him given how poorly they have drafted. I just think that will have to be the MTL pick (between 4-10) and not a pick between 26-32.
- I don't think it's enough value on Krebs. This one is worse than the Kaliyev one imo, should at the minimum be a 2nd.
- The Lundell trade has no shot of happening, especially considering Matheson has been in Florida before and they shipped him out.
- The last one is unrealistic (you basically said as much) but the value is pretty far off imo. Imagine if you had Seider and were to even consider trading him, you'd want way more. I'm talking 3+ 1sts and a player in the NHL producing like Caufield. I think Caufield and 3 1sts is closer to fair for Seider than what you proposed.

All and all, appreciate the thought and effort.

But my thoughts:
1. Kaliyev and Krebs probably both cost a 2nd and prospect (at least that range).
2. Savard trade is semi-fair, I like the thought of Allen to LAK.
3. Zegras would net the 7th overall pick you mentioned and other stuff. I still think the Habs should do that.
4. Lundell trade is not the right spot or player, but you should trade Matheson.
5. Seider trade is unrealistic and undervalued.

thanks man for your return, it's appreciated! I agree with your opinions.
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23 févr. à 20 h 8
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wrong 1st and wrong players

not getting Zegras fella
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23 févr. à 20 h 11
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That’s gonna be a “no thanks” from Buffalo
We aren’t gonna “sell low” on Krebs- we like him
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23 févr. à 20 h 21
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Ducks decline. See every other MTL ACGM from the last 2 months for feedback
23 févr. à 20 h 24
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Obviously the sabres aren't doing that
23 févr. à 21 h 17
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Is it now
23 févr. à 21 h 21
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Sabres still have no reason to do that. Detroit isn't trading Seider full stop, let alone for anything less than untouchables
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24 févr. à 0 h 30
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No, Matheson was a disaster for us during his time as a Panther.
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Of course you think we'll draft a guy in 2024 and that he'll be a second liner two months later. Eiserman had already committed to go to BU next year and he should stick to it to complete his game off the puck.
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Of course you think we'll draft a guy in 2024 and that he'll be a second liner two months later. Eiserman had already committed to go to BU next year and he should stick to it to complete his game off the puck.

Well you can't predict what happen, if he has a good training camp and he is nhl ready, why not?
 
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