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5 acceptable ways in which the Oilers can pay for Tarasenko

Créé par: sensonfire
Équipe: 2023-24 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 21 févr. 2024
Publié: 21 févr. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
If Edmonton needs to dump cap to make room for Tarasenko, Ottawa will accept someone like Warren Foegele.
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OTT
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
Détails additionnels:
1. 2024 1st round pick

2. 2025 1st round pick

3. 2024 2nd round pick + 2026 2nd round pick

4. Xavier Bourgault + a 4th round pick

5. Beau Akey + 2024 2nd round pick
EDM
  1. Tarasenko, Vladimir (2 500 000 $ retained)
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21 févr. à 10 h 18
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Akey and a 2nd or just the 2024 1st are the ones id accept. Or Holloway
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21 févr. à 10 h 20
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Akey and a 2nd or just the 2024 1st are the ones id accept. Or Holloway


Personally, I think Holloway is going to turn into a bust.

At this point, he's just a 4th line meat shield or another Parker Kelly.
21 févr. à 10 h 40
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#3 or 4 seem likely from Edmonton's perspective. They won't trade a 1st.

Foegele won't be coming back either. He has 24 points at 5v5 this year, Tarasenko has 25. Wouldn't be much of an "add" if they sent Foegele out.

They should be able to get a third team to retain another $1.25M for like a 5th, so no need to send a roster player back.
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21 févr. à 10 h 41
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Quoting: csick
Akey and a 2nd or just the 2024 1st are the ones id accept. Or Holloway


Quoting: sensonfire
Personally, I think Holloway is going to turn into a bust.

At this point, he's just a 4th line meat shield or another Parker Kelly.


Holloway is 22.. he’s got plenty of time for his game to adjust to the nhl. Akey and a 2nd is worth more then a late first lol so no. Vlads ntc kinda puts the ball in him court, return won’t be as high as you hope.
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21 févr. à 10 h 46
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Holloway is 22.. he’s got plenty of time for his game to adjust to the nhl. Akey and a 2nd is worth more then a late first lol so no. Vlads ntc kinda puts the ball in him court, return won’t be as high as you hope.


ok and the oilers wont get him then
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21 févr. à 11 h 23
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Quoting: sensonfire
Personally, I think Holloway is going to turn into a bust.

At this point, he's just a 4th line meat shield or another Parker Kelly.


If Parker Kelly is available too, I would want him too.
To Edmonton: Tarasenko 50% salary retained and Parker Kelly
To Ottawa: Warren Foegele, 2024 1st, 2025 3rd
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If Parker Kelly is available too, I would want him too.
To Edmonton: Tarasenko 50% salary retained and Parker Kelly
To Ottawa: Warren Foegele, 2024 1st, 2025 3rd


Ottawa accepts.
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21 févr. à 12 h 49
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If Parker Kelly is available too, I would want him too.
To Edmonton: Tarasenko 50% salary retained and Parker Kelly
To Ottawa: Warren Foegele, 2024 1st, 2025 3rd

No, absolutely not.

Foegele has 24 points at 5v5 this year, Tarasenko has 25. Wouldn't be much of an "add" if they included Foegele.

The 1st is more than Edmonton would pay for Tarasenko, and the 3rd is more than Kelly is worth.

The guy literally proposed that he'd move Tarasenko for two 2nds, you're massively upping the cost just to add Parker Kelly.

SMH.
23 févr. à 16 h 29
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ok and the oilers wont get him then


Good, much better options at that price…
23 févr. à 16 h 34
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Foegele has 24 points at 5v5 this year, Tarasenko has 25. Wouldn't be much of an "add" if they included Foegele.


Not trying to defend every detail of that proposal, but Tarasenko has been playing almost exclusively 3rd line this year, with a not-overly-interested-looking Kubalik for much of the year - and there's a cost for $2.5M in salary retention (Sens only have 2 salary retention slots available)
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23 févr. à 17 h 13
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Not trying to defend every detail of that proposal, but Tarasenko has been playing almost exclusively 3rd line this year, with a not-overly-interested-looking Kubalik for much of the year - and there's a cost for $2.5M in salary retention (Sens only have 2 salary retention slots available)

Nonsense.

Tarasenko's most common center is Tim Stutzle. He has played less than 15% of his TOI with Kubalik.
23 févr. à 17 h 14
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Not trying to defend every detail of that proposal, but Tarasenko has been playing almost exclusively 3rd line this year, with a not-overly-interested-looking Kubalik for much of the year - and there's a cost for $2.5M in salary retention (Sens only have 2 salary retention slots available)


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Nonsense.

Tarasenko's most common center is Tim Stutzle. He has played less than 15% of his TOI with Kubalik.

Why would you lie about information that is publicly available? It doesn't add any value to the conversation.
23 févr. à 17 h 42
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Nonsense.

Tarasenko's most common center is Tim Stutzle. He has played less than 15% of his TOI with Kubalik.


I admit I don't watch every game - that really surprises me. It's been Joseph-Stutzle-Giroux for most of the time that Martin has been coaching, and Tarasenko was playing with Grieg in the fall. Tarasenko & Stutzle did play together for a bit - but that was when everyone in r/OttawaSenators was down on Stutzle as not living up to his contract - trade the bum.
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