No way that Pat Verbeek takes that offer. Maybe David Reinbacher and a 1st.

What is your comparison to think Zegras is worth 2 top 7 picks in back to back years?! At least the OP provided a realistic past trade as a comp then increased the price a bit.

BTW OP Barron = 1st in the 20+ range not a 2nd

Did you know that the GM's in our generations makes somes trades who are more a '' fair deal '' for both sides instead of somes massives steals ?

We are not anymore in the 1970s - 1980s or 1990s who GM's maked somes trades to try to fleetch them.

Google "Pat Verbeek tough negotiator GM" and read some of the articles on him. I personally feel that he is not the GM that the Ducks need.

Debrincat >>>> Zegras

Also, look how the Debrincat trade worked out for the sens…

Barron is definitely worth more than a first

Max I would give for Zegras is Winnipeg’s first, Calgary’s first, RHP and Heineman, wich is more than fair for both side. 2 first and 2 seconds, that’s more than what Chychrun got

In my humble opinion, you are right here and the OP's offer is slightly generous.

(1) By agreement (grudging or otherwise), the standing offer from us Anaheim fans (promulgated by @GiggyWithGibby) is Reinbacher and Montreal's 2025 second.

(2) Despite the disparity in their contract situations, I think DeBrincat had a higher trade value than Zegras, especially with Z's current injury status (which is what makes it unlikely for us to trade him, since his value is the lowest it will ever be).

DeBrincat really don't wanted to play with Ottawa....................... when Zegras really loved his Montreal experience.........

Maybe just DeBrincat > Zegras, but Zegras ofensive potential >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. I'm not surprise that he can explode offensively next season.

And Zegras have WAY more potential than Chychrun.

Oversimplification to the point of dishonesty. Chychrun got the 12th overall selection, which neither of the firsts you mention will be and it's quite possible that the aggregate doesn't equal a top-10 pick. And the two seconds Ottawa got (particularly the Washington choice) are clearly superior to RHP and Heineman who, so far, show no signs of being anything more than bottom-6 forwards.

Avs have to consider at that price

Like I have said in the past (and you agreed with) Zegras is worth a 1st in the 5-10 range (as long as the forward prospects are off the board) + Mesar + Farrell, Habs aren't trading from their weakest position, it just won't happen. If we trade Reinbacher who do we have that has potential to be our #1 RD? No one, that's who.

No, it's not, and you need to stop pretending it is. We have no need for a grab bag of spare parts, the only way Zegras moves is for a blue chip piece coming the other way. We have a better prospect pool than Montreal, we don't need anymore bottom and middle six pieces that you mention as your "max offer" for our top line player.

My comment about Reinbacher was in support of your objection to the Reinbacher plus a first valuation. I should have been clearer that my comment applied only to a Reinbacher formulation. You're absolutely right about our acceptance of the alternative valuation you give, which I think is the only one that is a realistic possibility.

Fair value for Z. If for some reason Verbeek doesn’t feel he’s a long term fit (which every Duck fan hopes isn’t the case), and someone like Lindstrom or Levshunov are available when MTL is on the clock, I could see then considering something like this. I hope this doesn’t happen, but the value is right

How could a guy who scored 40 goals in his second season have a worst offensive potential than a guy who didn’t score more than 65 pts in one season and that is on pace for 29 this season…

Chychrun was already locked long term and is 1000x better defensively. He also has 2 60 pts pace seasons, same number as Zegras but as a D

Calgary first is gonna be top 20 since Florida probably won’t be really good. So let’s say 17. The 17th pick and the 24th pick is more than enough to get to 12th.

Heineman and RHP are totally worth seconds. The Washington second is gonna be like 40. The Ottawa second is gonna be like 55.

Also, Chychrun value > Zegras value

Your « top line player » is fifth on the ducks depth chart at forward and would be fourth or fifth on Montreal’s depending of Dach’s developpement. He is on pace for 29 pts this year while being one of the worst player defensively IN THE LEAGUE. He isn’t getting a Debrincat return.

There is about 10 forward I would take before him in this draft. He wouldn’t help Montreal more than Reinbacher, Guhle, Hutson and even Roy and Mailloux.

Also, Anaheim doesn’t have a deep forward prospect pool. Gauthier, Gaucher, Pastujov, Tracey and Perreault. That’s about it…

I remember all the coments about Eichel and all of them that Vegas will never win with him................................................. Just looks what happened after that................

Except Eichel is a proven #1 C who is decent defensively. He had 1 season with a below 60 pts pace. He was a 2nd overall pick and would have been first 99% of the draft. Zegras is just a worse Caufield