There is a 0% chance Saros for Necas is a 1 for 1 trade

Canes pass on the Nashville deal. Like Saros, but he's having a down year and doesn't have enough value for Necas.

Canes pass the CBJ deal. Kotaniemi is already a Jenner comparable while being 6 years younger. Why are we adding for someone who puts up similar point totals to KK? AND the organization's starting goaltender? No. Stop it.

Probably a little much for Duclair on his own, who has all of 17 points. I'd want more than that for that kind of return

NSH doesn't consider that.

Boone is a much better goal scorer than KK, better faceoffs, and a better contract. Freddy is playing worse than Elvis this year, with one of the best teams in front of him lol
This is a bit of an overpay, but not by that much. These pieces don't really help columbus that much anyway. Depth they're full of, and late round picks, they already have a deep pool. I think they'd want quality player/prospect over quantity.

Freddie's played 6 games and is a starting goalie. Elvis is a fringe backup making 5 million.

KK's better defensively, better age, better creator. This is a bad overpayment for a middle six guy.

hahaha Canes do not pass on the Saros deal. This website is funny

Yes, they do lol. Carolina's biggest issue is scoring. Saros is having a bad year. Freddie proved last year he's a very capable playoff goalie. Hence, don't need to sacrifice scoring for goaltendinga hahhahahaha, this website is funny

Uh wut. You’re well past out to lunch if you think you can pull necas for saros.

Its a crazy overpay - you're aware that Freddie has been out all season right? Why would the Canes trade their starting goalie, a 23 year old center locked up on a great deal long term, and futures for Boone Jenner? We have Boone Jenner at home (Jordan Staal)

All of these are bad overpays. And we didn’t get better

let me repeat. Said "starting goalie" who is 4 years older making 3.4 is playing worse than said fringe backup, with a significantly better team in front of him. Literally the only thing keeping the Canes down rn is goalies, when you have a different goalie than fred playing better. You have the best defense in the league and above mid scoring. Lacking goalies. Canes don't need Boone, but if they trade him for KK that's a Columbus loss

I mean the Hurricanes get absolutely ripped off in that trade... young top-6 guy with a great goal scoring touch > pretty much any goalie

Freddie's literally only played 6 games, and it was when the team was playing like garbage. He's also 5-1 and still statistically the best of the three we have, and he was SIGNIFICANTLY better in the playoffs than Merzlikins has ever been. When Freddie is back, the Canes will have a shot.

Boone is an older, ageing, injury prone version of KK. If they get traded one for one, the team getting younger wins, easily.

yes I can see he's only played 6 games. But in those 6 he's played like **** with the best defense in the league in front of him. As I said to someone else, Canes don't need Boone, but if they trade him for KK that's a Columbus loss.

"great deal long term" 8 year nearly 5 mill per for a bottom 6 player loooool

5-1 due to the team in front of him. Stats speak so. And is Pyotr not better? Stats speak so. Freddy also had a much better regular season last year than now, and his playoff career has been hit or miss. Elvis played well with a good defense in front of him, which was only his rookie year. Back then he had 5 shutouts in 8 games, and a .923. Team in front of him has been **** since. Freddy has the best defense in the league in front of him and still not putting up good numbers this. The skaters are winning the games this year, not the goalies

Yeah, the team was playing horrific defense at the start of the season, thats why his stats in those 6 games aren't good. Its okay, you can say you haven't seen the team, but saying he was horrific before missing significant time with a bloodclot issue is glossing over a large portion of the story.

And who said trading KK for Boone was a columbus loss? Getting the younger locked up guy who is just as good is a loss? Huh?

Freddie's GSAx/60 is 0. Kochetkov's is still -3.6. Merzlikins is 0. I'll take Freddie over Elvis, any day of the week. You talk about the defense, but GSAx ignores that and looks at the goalie. Freddie's only played 6 games and has the same as Elvis. I would like to remind you Freddie is 2 years removed from a season where he has 27.6 Goals Saved Above Expected. Only Shesterkin was better. I'd MUCH rather have Freddie lmao

Coyotes are not bringing on DeAngelo lol

Let's just start with Jenner isn't getting moved, and Andersen isn't getting moved unless the Canes actually do manage to land Saros (and even then...???).





Moneypuck has Freddie's GSAx/60 at -.096, Elvis is at +.047. Of goalies to play 5+ games this year, Freddie ranks 48th, Elvis ranks 41st.
Freddie's GAA: 2.87, 0.09 worse than expected. Elvis: GAA is 3.21, 0.05 better than expected.
Freddie's SV% is an .894 (46th in the league), Elvis' is a .904 (30th in the league) per ESPN.

They're both league average. Literally average. Calling Freddie a "starting goalie" and Elvis a "fringe backup" is blatant homerism. Saying Freddie has "played like ****" is also just untrue. Given the contracts, you take Freddie 100 times out of 100, but people love to slander Elvis when he's objectively fine, just overpaid.

Same goes with KK vs. Jenner.

Better defensively? KK is starting 59.6% of his shifts in the offensive zone (career 62.7% in Carolina) vs. Jenner's 47.6% and 45.9%, respectively. FO%: KK = 48.4%, Jenner = 54.5%. Shorthanded, KK's played a grand total of 4.3 minutes this year, vs. Jenner's 48.1 (where he's only allowed 5 shots).

Better age? Yeah, clearly. Better creator? Sure, KK has a 55.2% xGF% (-.8% relative to the rest of Carolina) and a 61% CorsiFor% vs. Jenner's 48.6% xGF% (+5.2% relative to the rest of Columbus), 52% CorsiFor%. That, though, has a lot to do with the team play.

Points? KK: 9-9-18, -11, career best: 18-25-43, +10.
Jenner: 15-5-20, -7, career best: 30-19-49, -15.

If you're only looking at points, yeah, Jesperi looks like he's a Jenner-type. But the fact is, he's a bottom-6 center who does everything...okay, but is sheltered by a great team and favorable matchups. Jenner is a middle-6 center who does basically everything but playmaking pretty well, and is asked to do too much on a terrible team.

Again, they're not getting moved, but at least try to have some objectivity here, both of you.

AZ had TDA once and unless CAR threw stupid offer to take him (he is a rental) there is no way they want him back