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Crouse

Créé par: Ichbinian
Équipe: 2023-24 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 8 févr. 2024
Publié: 8 févr. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
ARI
  1. Bourgault, Xavier
  2. Broberg, Philip
  3. Campbell, Jack
  4. Janmark, Mattias
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
  6. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (EDM)
  7. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (EDM)
2.
EDM
  1. Edmundson, Joel (400 000 $ retained)
WSH
  1. Lavoie, Raphael
  2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2024 (NSH)
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2025 (EDM)
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2024
Logo de EDM
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2025
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
2026
Logo de EDM
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Logo de EDM
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $82 566 667 $850 000 $4 200 000 $933 333 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
4 300 000 $4 300 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
C
RFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
775 000 $775 000 $ (Bonis de performance325 000 $$325K)
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance650 000 $$650K)
AG, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
900 000 $900 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
775 000 $775 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 225 000 $$3M)
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
775 000 $775 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
9 250 000 $9 250 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 600 000 $2 600 000 $
G
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
762 500 $762 500 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Capitals de Washington
475 000 $475 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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8 févr. à 15 h 10
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It feels like alot of payment, can we get Durzi out of them too?
8 févr. à 15 h 13
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I truly do try and find a positive or at the very least try to understand what people are thinking when making deals but I’m beyond lost on this one. Overpay is an understatement. I’d recommend deleting this attempt and trying again.
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8 févr. à 15 h 32
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Maybe include Derek Ryan, the NHL’s only LDS player, if it looks like SLC is happening.
8 févr. à 15 h 35
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Quoting: Stevo989898
It feels like alot of payment, can we get Durzi out of them too?


Quoting: Timmah007
I truly do try and find a positive or at the very least try to understand what people are thinking when making deals but I’m beyond lost on this one. Overpay is an understatement. I’d recommend deleting this attempt and trying again.


The two 1sts alone, at least, are simply to dump Campbell. If we give you the benefit of the doubt there that means Bourgault and Broberg are the value for Crouse, and neither of them have much value at this point. They're not anything Arizona doesn't have already, and certainly not something they can't live with out, especially at the expense of Crouse.
8 févr. à 15 h 41
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Quoting: Caerii
The two 1sts alone, at least, are simply to dump Campbell. If we give you the benefit of the doubt there that means Bourgault and Broberg are the value for Crouse, and neither of them have much value at this point. They're not anything Arizona doesn't have already, and certainly not something they can't live with out, especially at the expense of Crouse.


Crouse is also overpaid so why does he carry enough value to land two quality young players but Campbell costs 2 firsts? I personally wouldn’t want anything to do with adding Crouse he isn’t anything the oilers don’t already have a bunch of just more expensive.
8 févr. à 15 h 45
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Quoting: Timmah007
Crouse is also overpaid so why does he carry enough value to land two quality young players but Campbell costs 2 firsts? I personally wouldn’t want anything to do with adding Crouse he isn’t anything the oilers don’t already have a bunch of just more expensive.


Crouse isn't overpaid, and even if he is it would be by a couple hundred thousand, Jack Campbell is an AHL goalie making 5M, it's laughable to compare the two
And again, Broberg and Bourgault aren't "quality young players", they're guys who would be lucky to land regular roles in the top six/top four, especially on good teams

This is an issue of you overrating your own assets and trying to underrate/undermine other, actual quality assets
8 févr. à 15 h 57
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Quoting: Timmah007
Crouse is also overpaid.


32 goal pace after 24 last season. Skates, big, uses the body, PKs, PP, doesn't take shifts off. Worth every penny and more.
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8 févr. à 16 h 4
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Quoting: Caerii
Crouse isn't overpaid, and even if he is it would be by a couple hundred thousand, Jack Campbell is an AHL goalie making 5M, it's laughable to compare the two
And again, Broberg and Bourgault aren't "quality young players", they're guys who would be lucky to land regular roles in the top six/top four, especially on good teams

This is an issue of you overrating your own assets and trying to underrate/undermine other, actual quality assets


Heavily disagree but to each there own.
8 févr. à 16 h 23
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Quoting: Timmah007
Crouse is also overpaid so why does he carry enough value to land two quality young players but Campbell costs 2 firsts? I personally wouldn’t want anything to do with adding Crouse he isn’t anything the oilers don’t already have a bunch of just more expensive.


Crouse being overpaid is certainly a ...take. Overrated because of his size? Maybe. But if he's UFA right now then he would definitely get more term and AAV than he has now. He's more underpaid than overpaid.
8 févr. à 16 h 45
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Quoting: Timmah007
Crouse is also overpaid so why does he carry enough value to land two quality young players but Campbell costs 2 firsts? I personally wouldn’t want anything to do with adding Crouse he isn’t anything the oilers don’t already have a bunch of just more expensive.


good points - he would be 4th in G and 5th in pts on EDN - is younger, cheaper and way more physical than than any of those guys. yep EDM shouldnt touch him
8 févr. à 16 h 49
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Quoting: Caerii
The two 1sts alone, at least, are simply to dump Campbell. If we give you the benefit of the doubt there that means Bourgault and Broberg are the value for Crouse, and neither of them have much value at this point. They're not anything Arizona doesn't have already, and certainly not something they can't live with out, especially at the expense of Crouse.


Campbell doesn't take 2 firsts....if he does, we will just buy him our and ride. That is an insane amount for him, plain and simple, we are disagreeing on something the will NEVER happen.
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Quoting: bwhsocal
good points - he would be 4th in G and 5th in pts on EDN - is younger, cheaper and way more physical than than any of those guys. yep EDM shouldnt touch him


Quoting: bwhsocal
good points - he would be 4th in G and 5th in pts on EDN - is younger, cheaper and way more physical than than any of those guys. yep EDM shouldnt touch him


Idk think over hyping crouse. In Edmonton I can’t see him getting top six minutes and Edmonton can’t afford that term landing in the bottom six. Oiler fans wanted to run foegele out of town last year because he made 2.750 with one year remaining. This would ultimately replace foegele in oilers depth chart moving forward but much more expensive and much longer term. I would agree he is worth every dime in Arizona but the role he would end up on in Edmonton is different and will very quickly change look of the contract.
 
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