I don’t understand the Kakko hate or reason for trading him. Yea, he hasn’t lived up to 2nd overall hype, but he’s still a good NHLer at age 22. His strong suits are puck possession/protection, wall play and defense. His cap hit is $2.1m and coming off a slow start/serious injury this year. He’s oddly become the scapegoat when Kreider/Mika have sucked at 5v5, so obviously Kakko gets demoted to 3rd line
Last year Kakko had 15 goals 32 points at 5v5
More points than:
Bergeron, JT Miller, Tarasenko, Zucc, Barzal, DeBrincat, Reinhart, Batherson, Kreider
1. Some people are impatient
2. Some people think the window is closing
3. Some people base everything on G & A
Fact is, this is the prelude to the Chris Drury window. His job isn’t in jeopardy. The kids are developing and getting playoff experience. More kids are being drafted that will be a big part of the window. He’s not giving up important pieces for an extra round of playoffs today
It's just draft position & expectations in New York. He needs to go somewhere else to get that off his back. He's a solid player and will be appreciated as such with a fresh start.
1. Some people are impatient
2. Some people think the window is closing
3. Some people base everything on G & A
Fact is, this is the prelude to the Chris Drury window. His job isn’t in jeopardy. The kids are developing and getting playoff experience. More kids are being drafted that will be a big part of the window. He’s not giving up important pieces for an extra round of playoffs today
What age did Nichushkin pop off?
What age did Tage pop off?
They have loads of time to develop him and he has consistently been getting better. If you’re only looking at his goals and assists then there’s the mistake
Most fans expect a 2nd overall pick to be a franchise player.
Sometimes it doesn't work out that way.
Brayden Point was drafted in the 3rd round.
Tampa would be lying if they said they predicted he'd become a franchise 1C.
Kucherov was taken in the 2nd round and he might win another Hart trophy this season.
Rangers are a big market and big expectations come with that.
Laffy is improving each season.
But he's also taken his slings and arrows.
Detroit drafted Zadina #6 overall.
Guess who was #7?
Quinn Hughes.
Kakko may benefit from a change of scenery.
But he may continue his development and become a valuable player for the Rangers.
At the very least he's good defensively and he's effective using his size in the corners.
The Rangers need that.
I don't blame the Rangers for pickling Kakko 2nd overall like the Monday morning quarterbacks do.
At the time it was the consensus pick.
So my rebuttal is, if they go the change of scenery route, I don’t see how any return they get (likely low return) helps them right now & future or is better than Kakko
It's just draft position & expectations in New York. He needs to go somewhere else to get that off his back. He's a solid player and will be appreciated as such with a fresh start.
Yea but how does trading him away make sense for the rangers right now?
I think the Rangers too often make the mistake of throwing their high-potential players into the NHL too early and it stifles their development. Neither Lafreniere nor Kakko should have been playing in the NHL at age 18.
I think the Rangers too often make the mistake of throwing their high-potential players into the NHL too early and it stifles their development. Neither Lafreniere nor Kakko should have been playing in the NHL at age 18.
I 100% agree with this. The major difference between Laffy and Hughes or Stutzle is that they both went to rebuilding teams and gave them top 6, powerplay 1 time. Rangers don’t care to develop
I completely agree, people that want us to give him up for rentals are crazy
I want some damn accountability from the coach and GM. I’ve never seen players get special treatment the way Kreider and Mika do. Keep Kakko on the top line and send a message by demoting Kreider or Mika
What age did Nichushkin pop off?
What age did Tage pop off?
They have loads of time to develop him and he has consistently been getting better. If you’re only looking at his goals and assists then there’s the mistake
Not sure if anyone recalls the video of backstage at the draft when Kakko met Hughes for first time post-draft.
Jack looked at him, smiled, and tried to say hello.
Kakko pretended not to be seen, avoided eye contact, and took off.
Not sure if he was star-struck, nervous or what.
But definitely one the strangest things I've seen.
What age did Nichushkin pop off?
What age did Tage pop off?
They have loads of time to develop him and he has consistently been getting better. If you’re only looking at his goals and assists then there’s the mistake
I think he is a solid player with room to grow fwiw, but at this stage you are trading him at his floor not what his ceiling *could* be. Tage was traded at one point before he grew into his game and Nichuskin was out of the league. He could still grow, but teams arent trading for what he could grow into anymore, theyre trading for what he is
I 100% agree with this. The major difference between Laffy and Hughes or Stutzle is that they both went to rebuilding teams and gave them top 6, powerplay 1 time. Rangers don’t care to develop
I don't think that Stutzle should have been in the NHL at 18 either. He'd be a more complete player if the Sens gave him a year in the AHL. He's fantastic at putting up points, but the rest of his game needs a lot of work.
I was on the fence about Jack Hughes, but you can't argue with the current product.
Not sure if anyone recalls the video of backstage at the draft when Kakko met Hughes for first time post-draft.
Jack looked at him, smiled, and tried to say hello.
Kakko pretended not to be seen, avoided eye contact, and took off.
Not sure if he was star-struck, nervous or what.
But definitely one the strangest things I've seen.
He may have been running to the nearest bathroom to saw logs? 😬
I think he is a solid player with room to grow fwiw, but at this stage you are trading him at his floor not what his ceiling *could* be. Tage was traded at one point before he grew into his game and Nichuskin was out of the league. He could still grow, but teams arent trading for what he could grow into anymore, theyre trading for what he is
Yea but what are you getting back in return that’s better right now and for the future? Rentals would be terrible asset management and swapping with other struggling players doesn’t make sense because rangers still can’t develop
I think he is a solid player with room to grow fwiw, but at this stage you are trading him at his floor not what his ceiling *could* be. Tage was traded at one point before he grew into his game and Nichuskin was out of the league. He could still grow, but teams arent trading for what he could grow into anymore, theyre trading for what he is
So this is the issue. You believe he’s being traded. No one is trading Kakko lol. His value is at the floor. Do you sell stocks at the floor? So why sell players at their floor value? Especially when it’s not about winning today. Stop believing he is being moved and you and I never have to have this discussion
I don't think that Stutzle should have been in the NHL at 18 either. He'd be a more complete player if the Sens gave him a year in the AHL. He's fantastic at putting up points, but the rest of his game needs a lot of work.
I was on the fence about Jack Hughes, but you can't argue with the current product.
Hughes did say later he probably should have gone to Michigan for a year. He said NJD gave him the choice and he decided to do NHL.
The gloating is directed at Rangers fans on here who declare all their young players untouchable for any trade and then they all get traded for scraps 2 years later.
So my rebuttal is, if they go the change of scenery route, I don’t see how any return they get (likely low return) helps them right now & future or is better than Kakko
That's what I mean.
Better to keep Kakko and hope he keeps improving.
Rangers don't have to trade him just because Hack Larry Brooks wants them to.
I 100% agree with this. The major difference between Laffy and Hughes or Stutzle is that they both went to rebuilding teams and gave them top 6, powerplay 1 time. Rangers don’t care to develop
So send Kakko to a rebuilding team where there is no spotlight on him, where any spot in lineup is available to him.