the realistic return for tanev and a guy who might never play again is a top-4 dman who is 10 years younger than tanev and a 1st round pick?

philadelphia would also not go for hanafin, already have sanheim/york

Lucius works for Winnipeg, although he's currently injured, so Calgary probably wouldn't be interested.

Lambert won't be available though.

Not getting liljegren and a 1st for 34 year old tanev and no one is trading for dube's toxic **** right now.
Hard no from the leafs

As said above, Lucius could absolutely be included but I don't know that CGY would target him. Lambert & McGroarty are probably the 2 untouchables in WPG.

Imo you guys are stuck with Vladar. Why would Colorado add a goalie that makes 2x as much and is worse than the backup goalie they already don't trust with starts? It doesn't make a lick of sense.

I don't think these trades are realistic, overvaluing Flames assets.

Lambert isn’t available so this isn’t realistic at all

Ok, fair enough. Was kinda going off of set values, not rlly sure how it fit for specific teams. Eg. for Lindholm I feel like he'd get a 1st+top prospect, Tanev's value is a little higher than a 1st.
There have been some borderline insane valuations though. On Spittin Chiclets, Biz was throwing around Byram+ for Lindholm, so I think these are toned down at least a little.

My bad, forgot about Dube on leave. I'll change it to just Tanev.

Jets will give you
1st + Lucius + Stanley for Lindholm not retained
1st + Lucius + 3rd for Lindholm 50% retained

Lucius is out for the season due to injury, so CGY might prefer another prospect or picks in place.
Untouchables are Lambert, Salomonsson, and McGroarty

would still be a first at most, liljegren probably holds more raw value than tanev

I do think a decent prospect will go with a 1st for Lindholm but doubt it'll be an A-level prospect like Lambert, should there be an extension for Lindholm involved that could change the return to include a better prospect, who can give Lindholm the extension he wants is another discussion entirely and it doesn't seem like the Jets could offer him what he wants though I suppose anything is possible.

A 1st and Lijegren is way too much for Tanev, a 1st alone is plenty imo, Lijegren has pretty much established himself as a 2nd pair guy, he isn't some underperforming former 1st rounder throw in that needs a change of scenery.

Don't see Philly trading Frost anymore, also if they were to sign Hanifin I guess someone has to play on their offhand or York is on the 3rd pair I guess, Philly just doesn't seem like a fit for Hanifin, Dallas needs a top 4 guy, the Blues are another team that I see as a fit for Hanifin even though they're a bubble team at the moment.

The Vladar trade is whatever, his numbers aren't great and guess it'd free up some space for the Avs to work with, they'd need to replace RyJo though even if he hasn't worked out there, Colorado isn't flush with centers.

Anywho, wasn't trying to 💩💩 all over your trades but some of these Flames posts are getting out of hand imo... 😆.. lol

I'd almost do it just to be rid of RyJo, LOL. I think it's a possibility he gets bought out this offseason if he stays with the Avs so, if they made this trade, they might still buyout Vladar but at least it would cost a lot less.

Flyers aren't going to be buyers, And no Noah Hanifin isn't signing with that dump long term. Torts alone will keep him out.

All these trades are a little bit low on value for Calgary but close enough to get serious talks going. In fact if Lindholm gets traded and they don't get a decent center they'd probably accept the Valdar trade to free up a spot for Wolf and get Johansen as a stop gap replacement center for next year.