i mean.... this is the most convincing one i've seen yet

That is a TON to give up... I mean if there's gonna be a bidding war then sure have at it but WOW!
That'll beat my best offer from Buffalo

too much I think, w/ how Musty's playing I'm not sure I'd even do the 1st + Musty

Equivalent of 3 firsts and a pick around 33 or 34? Absolutely the heck not. Must be out of your mind.

If Jiricek was worth that, he would be a surefire NHLer right now and not teetering back and forth and requesting out...

makes no sense for San Jose. They can just draft a RD this year and wait for him to develop, theres no rush

Id offer our top 5 pick this year, top 40 2nd round pick, one of our good goalie prospects and another piece from ottawa

He is though, or at least significantly better than every other option he's getting scratched for (Peeke and Gudbranson mainly). Management completely f***ing him over and playing for a team where coaching has done no one any favors isn't helping. But he also has not requested out, or even hinted at it.

What in the world is this?

1. Sharks could get close to Jiricek level talent at RD with that PIT pick they're trading. In fact they could literally get his brother lol.
2. Musty debatably as good if not better of a prospect than Jiricek.
3. Add a 2nd rounder that's nearly a 1st with how low it is
4. Ferraro won't be traded unless it's for a 1st +.

So essentially you're giving up 4 assets that are around a 1st rounder or more in value for a RD prospect who's played a total of 40 games. I'd do Ferraro + 2nd, but anything more is absolutely crazy

I wouldn't do Musty for Jiricek one for one. At least not right now

And still not worth Ferraro (1st round value or very very close to it), Musty (just drafted 1st round 7 months ago and having a great D+1 season), an actual 1st rounder (Pittsburgh pick), and an almost 1st rounder (SJ 2nd rounder that will be 33-35 overall).

There are few players out there that are worth that sort of haul.

These responses are crazy lol. Jiricek was drafted 6th overall 1.5 years ago. He’s a 20 year old super skilled RD with size who you could put into your lineup right now. He’s #34 in The Athletic’s Under 23 Rankings. He’s got a good chance to be a legit #1.

The Sharks give up a good package, but you’ve got to give to get. If the Sharks could bring in Jiricek without having to give up any of their own 1sts, Smith, Eklund, or Mukh that would be a great move.

If the Sharks get some lottery luck, just think of a Celebrini, Smith, Eklund, Jiricek, and Mukh core.

I doubt the Sharks are getting anyone close to Jiricek with the Pit pick. It’s likely going to end up in the 15-20 range.

Lol Ferraro and a 2nd for Jiricek? You really overvalue your favorite teams players. That’d be like a Columbus fan offering Jake Bean and a 2nd for Will Smith.

I'm not going to speculate whether he is or isn't worth that specific haul, the fact of the matter is CBJ have two glaring needs: 1RD and 1C. Fantilli is the only prospect with 1C potential in the system, and Jiricek is the only prospect with 1RD potential in the system. Neither are getting moved, regardless of package (unless you're getting a legit 1C or 1RD back, but who's doing that?). It's a moot point.



And Jiricek trades are now half the ACGMs on here, it's insane. Thanks for being cool about it!

This is a super deep draft for first round d-man so getting a high end d-man around the 11-18 spot (much more likely spot for PIT) is pretty likely. I'm not saying Jiricek level, but a defense making d-man that makes this entire trade pointless

Ferraro > Bean and it's not close, not to mention it's been said 1,000 times that SJ isn't parting with Ferraro unless it's an overpay. That 2nd is pretty much a 1st. And Smith is a better prospect than Jiricek so I'd disagree with your comparison on just about ever aspect.

Also to clarify, I was mostly picking from the assets that were laid out in this trade. I think if Jiricek asked to be traded and the Sharks weren't thrilled what was available at the say 14th overall pick, I would be all for a draft day deal for that pick + Ferraro

This is like Habs fan levels of delusion backed up by literally nothing, but if you're happy, keep truckin'.

Care to elaborate? Do you think Jiricek is a better prospect than Smith? Do you think Bean is better than Ferraro?

There's 0 chance Sharks are parting with any of these assets unless it's an overpay. I understand the same is likely true for Jiricek and the Blue Jackets, but I'm looking at it why its not advantageous for the Sharks to do something like this.

I think he’s trying to say you’re extremely biased towards your favorite team’s players, similar to how Habs fans are.

I know that, and I am overvaluing Sharks assets because the assets requested are borderline untouchable or in Ferraro's case treated as "we'll listen but he's not going anywhere unless its a great return".

What I'm asking them to elaborate on is how they disagree with what I'm saying and how what I'm saying is baseless when I made an argument AND added context to everything.

It's the almost 4 1st rounders of value that is the issue. A realistic deal would be Ferraro + Bordeleau + Pittsburgh 1st (top 15 protected). Can maybe add a filler piece somewhere, but the core of the trade is an NHL D-Man, 1st round pick, and middle of the road prospect with upside. Maybe that is a 4th or something like that instead, but rarely do you see non-established elites getting dealt for a package that includes that sort of ammunition.

It's adding on Musty (just came off being a 1st rounder and playing above his mid 20's draft slot in a loaded draft), and the 33rd or 34th overall pick that is the overpay. You're putting a package together that is worth more than the Sharks got for Timo Meier as an established 30+ goal scorer in this league (Muk = Musty, Ferraro > Zetterlund, PIT 1st > NJD 1st, SJ 2nd > NJD 2nd - or equal if NJD makes the conference finals and it moves to 29-32).