Dubas was a bad gm

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Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto

Date de création initiale: 28 janv. 2024

Publié: 28 janv. 2024

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Hyman, Zach

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Letting Hyman walk to sign Ritchie and Mrazek was a head scratcher.

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Bertuzzi, Tyler

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McCann, Jared

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Protecting Holl over McCann is a head scratcher. No idea what he was thinking.

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Domi, Max

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McCann, Jared 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ C, AG M-NTC UFA - 4	Tavares, John 11 000 000 $11 000 000 $ C, AG NMC UFA - 2	Nylander, William 6 962 366 $6 962 366 $ AD NMC UFA - 1
Knies, Matthew 925 000 $925 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 2	Kämpf, David 2 400 000 $2 400 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 4	Järnkrok, Calle 2 100 000 $2 100 000 $ AD, C, AG M-NTC UFA - 3
Gregor, Noah 775 000 $775 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 1	Holmberg, Pontus 800 000 $800 000 $ C, AG RFA - 2	Reaves, Ryan 1 350 000 $1 350 000 $ AD UFA - 3
Robertson, Nicholas 796 667 $796 667 $ AG, AD RFA - 1

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Rielly, Morgan 7 500 000 $7 500 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 7	Brodie, TJ 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG/DD M-NTC UFA - 1	Samsonov, Ilya 3 550 000 $3 550 000 $ G UFA - 1
Benoit, Simon 775 000 $775 000 $ DG UFA - 1	McCabe, Jake 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ DG/DD M-NTC UFA - 2	Woll, Joseph 766 667 $766 667 $ G RFA - 2
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		Muzzin, Jake 5 625 000 $5 625 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 1
		Murray, Matt 4 687 500 $4 687 500 $ G M-NTC UFA - 1
		Klingberg, John 4 150 000 $4 150 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 1

28 janv. à 12 h 21

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SharkTank

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Quoting: draft_em_sign_em_trade_em

The trade could have been made without Durzi, he clearly wasn't a key piece to that trade.

The trade for Muzzin was for a 1st, a roster player and a prospect (any prospect could have been used, Dubas hadn't signed Durzi so he tossed him into the trade).

See Sandin only became a bad player when he was no longer a Leaf.

28 janv. à 12 h 23

#27

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Quoting: draft_em_sign_em_trade_em

It's always fun when you just make something up on the spot like this. How on earth do you figure it could have been done without Durzi? Were you in the room? Did you hear LA's GM say "yeah we dont care if he's there!"
seriously, what a hilarious thing to say

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28 janv. à 12 h 24

#28

JaredOfLondon

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Quoting: SharkTank

See Sandin only became a bad player when he was no longer a Leaf.

nah, see everyone here called sandin terrible, soft, slow and a bad pick until he was in washington and had a very obviously freak hot streak. but of course you think sandin is amazing now right? totally a top pairing guy or something simply because I dont think he's good.

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28 janv. à 12 h 24

#29

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Quoting: SharkTank

I remember Weegar Mania but was that an actual offer? 😬

That was the reported ask from Florida that Dubas turned down.

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28 janv. à 12 h 25

#30

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Quoting: Byrr

That was the reported ask from Florida that Dubas turned down.

Yikes. 😬

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28 janv. à 12 h 28

#31

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Quoting: SharkTank

These 3 players are future Hockey Hall of Famers. 🙄

Yet Leafs fans are always trading them on CFACGM. 🤔

Well not Knies. He REALLY is a future hockey Hall of Famer.

Apart from Knies those players is what a hockey front office would call “just another guy”

28 janv. à 12 h 32

#32

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I think Dubas was okay in Toronto, its really difficult to pin all his questionable moves on him when its obvious Shanahan and other higher ups had a lot of influence or say in what moves were made.

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28 janv. à 12 h 32

#33

draft_em_sign_em_trade_em

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Quoting: JaredOfLondon

And just imagine all the trade offers Dubas turned down because he over valued N. Robertson as a non starting point.

Maybe Dubas should have had Durzi (a much needed Rhd) as a non starting point to a trade.

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28 janv. à 12 h 32

#34

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Quoting: CoryTheGreat

Apart from Knies those players is what a hockey front office would call “just another guy”

Not on the Leafs.

Your value triples.

28 janv. à 12 h 32

#35

JaredOfLondon

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Quoting: CoryTheGreat

Apart from Knies those players is what a hockey front office would call “just another guy”

Man, tampa must suck at drafting too

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28 janv. à 12 h 35

#36

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Quoting: MisstheWhalers

I think Dubas was okay in Toronto, its really difficult to pin all his questionable moves on him when its obvious Shanahan and other higher ups had a lot of influence or say in what moves were made.

Yes.

Shammy has to be held accountable too.

Except he's not.

He just fires people he hired. 🤔

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28 janv. à 12 h 39

#37

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Quoting: draft_em_sign_em_trade_em

Yeah, im sure you imagine things all the time so you can have a new excuse to be mad at dubas. It's pretty weird

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28 janv. à 13 h 14

#38

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Quoting: draft_em_sign_em_trade_em

McCann would have replaced Hyman, instead of Dubas trying to use N. Ritchie to do the job.

the problem was Toronto had handed out to many high value contracts they couldnt AFFORD McCann, Its not about replacing Hyman . if They coud have afforded to pay McCann 5M+ they would have just kept hyman for 5.5M.....The point is they couldnt afford to resign either of McCann or Hyman. They Picked up Ritchie for 2.5M more affordable with the contracts they had , had it worked. which it didnt.

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28 janv. à 13 h 16

#39

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Quoting: JaredOfLondon

The issue was Durzi wasnt going to sign in Toronto. Everyone knew that.

28 janv. à 13 h 26

#40

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Quoting: DJP1117

The issue was Durzi wasnt going to sign in Toronto. Everyone knew that.

That was literally never a thing. He was simply an ok prospect and well worth it to trade for a legit top pairing guy in muzzin

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28 janv. à 17 h 34

#41

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Summer of Brad. Domi, Bertuzzi, Reaves, Gregor. Not sure toronto really upgraded at GM

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