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Créé par: Turkish_Canuck
Équipe: 2023-24 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 28 janv. 2024
Publié: 28 janv. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
THE TEAMS PICKED HERE ARE NOT IMPORTANT. SHOW ME YOUR BEST OFFERS FOR EACH OF THESE PLAYERS FOR YOUR TEAM (DOES NOT HAVE TO BE ANY OF THE TEAMS LISTED BELOW). TRYING TO SETTLE SOME DEBATES! THANK YOU
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VAN
    IGNORE THE TEAM. THIS IS NOT ABOUT YOU.
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    VAN
      OPEN TO OFFERS FROM ALL TEAMS.
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      VAN
        OPEN TO OFFERS FROM ALL TEAMS.
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        VAN
          OPEN TO OFFERS FROM ALL TEAMS.
          NJD
          1. Myers, Tyler (3 000 000 $ retained)
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          VAN
            OPEN TO OFFERS FROM ALL TEAMS.
            CAR
            1. DeSmith, Casey (900 000 $ retained)
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            C, AG
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            UFA - 3
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            UFA - 1
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            RFA - 1
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            5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
            G
            UFA - 3
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            3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
            DG/DD
            UFA - 1
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            4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
            DD
            RFA - 1
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            3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
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            NTC
            UFA - 3
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            775 000 $775 000 $
            DD
            UFA - 2
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            3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
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            UFA - 1
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            775 000 $775 000 $
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            2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
            DD
            UFA - 2
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            DG
            UFA - 2
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            775 000 $775 000 $
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            UFA - 2

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            28 janv. à 8 h 32
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            See description.
            28 janv. à 9 h 8
            #2
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            A 3rd and 5th for Myers?
            28 janv. à 9 h 32
            #3
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            Why are you selling?
            28 janv. à 10 h 4
            #4
            You know nothing JS
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            Boeser: Whatever people think, even elite players don't get traded away for 3x1st. The receipe is more or less always the same: a (usually low) 1st, a prospect, a replacement NHLer. Obviously would be a A level prospect. Throw in lower picks and prospects as you wish, but nothing significatively valuable.

            Kuzmenko: shows he can't play in a defensive system. Quick comparable: Smith got a 3rd but Vegas was stuck preseason. A 2nd + a body.

            Mikheyev: Can't stay healthy. My quick comparable would be Buchnevich. 2nd + bottom 6 replacement.

            Myers: See Zadorov. 3rd.

            Desmith : Not much for a future UFA back up. 4th or AHL player.
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            28 janv. à 10 h 5
            #5
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            NOT IMPORTANT TEAM #4 offers a 5th round pick
            28 janv. à 10 h 33
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            I've always like Boeser, but with his play this season he's going to cost way to much. Everything points to this being a career year for Boeser and not something he'll sustain in future seasons. He's nearly a $6.7 million hit and you'd have him roughly 1.5 seasons. I'd say something similar to what VAN got for Horvat would be fair. 1st + Prospect + NHLer
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            28 janv. à 10 h 41
            #7
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            1. A 1st +A Prospect & another high pick or good roster player

            2. 1st + Roster-player or 1st + B prospect

            3. 2nd + B prospect

            4. N/A but with 50% retention a 4th or 3rd at best

            5. 4th rounder but desperation & teams with pick surplus could cause a late 3rd (basically same thing i think for Jones)
            28 janv. à 12 h 41
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            I think a contender who needs him would pay a third for Myers, especially if it fills in your dance card for 2025 or 2026.
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            28 janv. à 12 h 46
            #9
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            Boeser-Very tough to value. Any offer enough for his production this year isn't worth this risk, any offer based around his previous production isn't even close
            Kuzmenko-Somewhere between a 3rd and FC
            Mikheyev-FC or a late pick
            Myers: FC
            Desmith retained: 2nd or 3rd
            29 janv. à 5 h 24
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            Quoting: GeneralLandro
            Why are you selling?


            Consensus is we need to sell 1 at the deadline (almost certainly Kuzmenko) to fund an 'all-in' move.

            There's a lower than 1% chance we trade more than 1 of these players before the deadline. But I really wanted to get an idea of what value other team's fans place on these players to settle some debates within the Canucks community.
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            29 janv. à 5 h 28
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            Quoting: T0R
            1. A 1st +A Prospect & another high pick or good roster player

            2. 1st + Roster-player or 1st + B prospect

            3. 2nd + B prospect

            4. N/A but with 50% retention a 4th or 3rd at best

            5. 4th rounder but desperation & teams with pick surplus could cause a late 3rd (basically same thing i think for Jones)


            Interesting, I actually don't think Kuzmenko brings in close to a 1st+.
            29 janv. à 11 h 20
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            Quoting: Turkish_Canuck
            Interesting, I actually don't think Kuzmenko brings in close to a 1st+.


            I think his last season gives a-lot of promise to most contenders which will make then pony up a 1st + imo
             
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