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Créé par: SomeonesOffended
Équipe: 2023-24 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 3 janv. 2024
Publié: 21 janv. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Alright so the Toronto trade has the value of a 1st without sending a first, not retaining half of the salary either, if they get offered a first they obviously accept that but no one is gonna pay a first lol, tanev resigns 3.5Mx2

I think Arizona is a good fit for Hanifin, they’ve been rumoured to be in on him, now I doubt they pay a first for him though 3 2nds has the value of a 1st and a 3rd so it’s a 1st, 2nd and a 3rd for an unretained Hanifin which I think is a good return, probably an overpay honestly but you gotta if you ain’t sending a 1st, Hanifin resigns 8.25Mx8, has come out that Hanifin is talking contract extension again so I guess we’ll see what happens there

Lindholm trade is fairly standard figured Matt doesn’t add any value to the trade just there to make money work, lindholm resigns 8.5Mx8

The markstrom trade can happen to any team that wants a goalie maybe Carolina too, flames can split games with vladar and wolf it’s time wolf gets his shot, retained half to make it more worth while to the other team, just guessing on the value here I really don’t know, the NJD 1st is top 15 protected

So 2 1sts, 6 2nds and a decent d prospect is a pretty good return for one year, even if only 3 of those 2nds hit that’s still 6 decent players out of 4 and all in one deadline id consider this a win
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CGY
  1. Abruzzese, Nick
  2. Niemelä, Topi
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    Maybe canes for markstrom too
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    21 janv. à 16 h 29
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    Devils accept. Getting full retention makes the price seem fair to me
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    21 janv. à 16 h 50
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    I think Boston is going to wait until free agency and keep their assets. Maybe a swap of a D for a F, but I just don’t see them going all in for a player that is going to take a significant salary to buy out of FA
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    21 janv. à 16 h 52
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    Kinda crazy for the likely non playoff Coyotes give up anything for an upcoming UFA. Please no crazy extension talk.
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    21 janv. à 17 h 16
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    Devils accept. Getting full retention makes the price seem fair to me


    Yeah I would lean that way too. Would also make using LTIR this year more tolerable since we would be saving $$ for next year. So maybe we could even retain on Lindholm or another deal and earn back some pick capital.
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    21 janv. à 17 h 44
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    Three second round picks in the thinnest draft in a while, I’d target more 2025 picks or players personally,
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    21 janv. à 19 h 57
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    Leafs consider
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    21 janv. à 20 h 20
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    Hurricanes need some kind of retention to make the cap work
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    22 janv. à 9 h 59
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    do you think the league just hasn't watched lindholm this year? no way he gets that kind of haul.

    also, four second round picks? have you ever seen a deal like that before? it isn't a thing.
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    22 janv. à 10 h 0
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    Quoting: Bcarlo25
    do you think the league just hasn't watched lindholm this year? no way he gets that kind of haul.

    also, four second round picks? have you ever seen a deal like that before? it isn't a thing.


    I just can’t see Arizona spending a first on Hanifin he’s been rumoured to be going there anything can happen I guess
    22 janv. à 10 h 4
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    I just can’t see Arizona spending a first on Hanifin he’s been rumoured to be going there anything can happen I guess



    no, not anything can happen. for example, a team trading four second round picks just isn't a real world concept.
    22 janv. à 14 h 25
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    Aside from the Canes none of these are good for the flames and even for those id want an extra prospect in there

    Tanevs trade holds no value for the flames aside from the quantity of it

    Lindholm is gonna need a good prospect like Lysell otherwise he'll get traded somewhere else

    Hanifin for four 2nds is just quantity over quality and id rather have an offer with actual substance

    The Flames aren't retaining half on a goalie whos playing fantastic with 3 years left on his contract get real please

    Same thing for the Canes offer not enough substance and flames aren't retaining anything on Markstrom
    22 janv. à 14 h 26
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    Aside from the Canes offer none of these are good for the flames


    You gotta drop you expectations in half minimum lmao
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    22 janv. à 14 h 31
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    Quoting: SomeonesOffended
    You gotta drop you expectations in half minimum lmao


    Not a chance, the Flames hold all the power in these trade discussions and if you can't pay the asking price you don't get the player simple as that.
    22 janv. à 14 h 33
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    Not a chance, the Flames hold all the power in these trade discussions and if you can't pay the asking price you don't get the player simple as that.


    Have fun letting them walk for free in free agency lmao
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    22 janv. à 14 h 34
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    Have fun letting them walk for free in free agency lmao


    And have fun losing in the first round again lmao
    22 janv. à 14 h 35
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    And have fun losing in the first round again lmao


    I hope we do so they fire Keefe
    22 janv. à 14 h 36
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    I hope we do so they fire Keefe


    Honestly I get you there Keefe is an awful coach and they should be way better than they are right now

    Berube and Woodcroft would be a big upgrade and they're sitting right there waiting for jobs
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