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Actual Trade Deadline

Créé par: BrianCampbell
Équipe: 2023-24 Blackhawks de Chicago
Date de création initiale: 16 janv. 2024
Publié: 16 janv. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Kyle Davidson emailed me the script this morning. I'll fill you guys in.
Transactions
1.
CHI
  1. Vanecek, Vitek
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (NJD)
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2026 (NJD)
NJD
  1. Mrázek, Petr (1 900 000 $ retained)
2.
CHI
  1. Johansen, Ryan
  2. Kovalenko, Nikolai
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (SEA)
COL
    FC
    3.
    CHI
    1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (WPG)
    2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2026 (WPG)
    4.
    CHI
    1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (NYR)
    NYR
    1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (CHI)
    Détails additionnels:
    Hawks retain $2425000 of Elias Lindholm's salary
    5.
    CHI
      Pair of AHL wingers to help with Rockford playoff push
      CAR
      1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2025 (CHI)
      Rachats de contrats
      Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
      Frais appliqués
      Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
      2024
      Logo de CHI
      Logo de TBL
      Logo de CHI
      Logo de LAK
      Logo de VAN
      Logo de NYR
      Logo de CHI
      Logo de OTT
      Logo de WPG
      Logo de SEA
      Logo de CHI
      2025
      Logo de CHI
      Logo de TOR
      Logo de CHI
      Logo de DAL
      Logo de CHI
      Logo de NJD
      Logo de NYR
      Logo de CHI
      2026
      Logo de CHI
      Logo de CHI
      Logo de NYI
      Logo de TOR
      Logo de CHI
      Logo de CHI
      Logo de OTT
      Logo de NJD
      Logo de CHI
      Logo de CHI
      Logo de WPG
      TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
      2383 500 000 $77 144 707 $0 $5 855 000 $6 355 293 $
      Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
      Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
      925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance505 000 $$505K)
      AG, C
      RFA - 1
      Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
      950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
      C
      RFA - 3
      Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
      2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
      AG, C, AD
      RFA - 2
      Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
      4 150 000 $4 150 000 $
      AD, AG
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
      2 650 000 $2 650 000 $
      C, AG
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
      2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
      AG, C, AD
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
      1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
      4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
      C, AD
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
      896 250 $896 250 $
      AD
      RFA - 2
      Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
      5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
      AD, C, AG
      M-NTC
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
      950 000 $950 000 $
      C
      RFA - 1
      Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
      4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
      AG, C, AD
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
      800 000 $800 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
      758 333 $758 333 $
      AD
      RFA - 1
      Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
      Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
      916 667 $916 667 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
      DG
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
      9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
      DD
      NMC
      UFA - 7
      Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
      962 500 $962 500 $
      G
      RFA - 2
      Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
      918 333 $918 333 $ (Bonis de performance1 000 000 $$1M)
      DG
      RFA - 3
      Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
      4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
      DD
      M-NTC
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Devils du New Jersey
      3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
      G
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
      762 500 $762 500 $
      DG
      UFA - 1
      Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
      4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
      DD
      M-NTC
      UFA - 3
      Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
      1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 1
      Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
      Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
      6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
      AG
      M-NTC, NMC
      UFA - 2
      Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
      4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 2

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      16 janv. à 12 h 53
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      there is no way you're getting kovalenko in a cap dump. zero. Avs give a first before that.
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      16 janv. à 12 h 54
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      Mrazek is not good, Devils decline
      16 janv. à 12 h 56
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      Quoting: pretzelcoatl
      Mrazek is not good, Devils decline


      I’d accept that.

      4th for Mrazek
      3rd to dump Vitek

      Works imo
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      16 janv. à 13 h 19
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      Arizona got a 3rd to retain 25% on Kane last year, which is less than 50% of Lindholm. So long story short you're not getting a 2nd to retain 50% on Lindholm
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      16 janv. à 13 h 20
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      Jets Decline
      Really no reason to do it
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      16 janv. à 13 h 33
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      Avs hang up the phone
      16 janv. à 14 h 6
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      Lets just do Dickinson, whats the ask?
      16 janv. à 14 h 10
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      Quoting: Smitty426
      Lets just do Dickinson, whats the ask?


      He got a new contract. 2 more year after this one at 4.25 which is a number the devils can’t afford to pay for Dickinson
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      16 janv. à 14 h 16
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      Quoting: BroadwayBlueshirts
      Arizona got a 3rd to retain 25% on Kane last year, which is less than 50% of Lindholm. So long story short you're not getting a 2nd to retain 50% on Lindholm


      Kane's base salary last season was only $2.9M. The deadline is is about 2/3's of the season. $2.9M X 2/3 = $1.9M, $2.9M - $1.9M = $1M, and 25% of $1M is $250K. Kane was only owed $250K by AZ. Lindholm's base salary for this season is $4.85M. Which means, if this trade is at the deadline, and CHI retains 50%, that would leave CHI liable for $825K. That is more than what Kane was owed.
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      16 janv. à 16 h 36
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      Quoting: BroadwayBlueshirts
      Arizona got a 3rd to retain 25% on Kane last year, which is less than 50% of Lindholm. So long story short you're not getting a 2nd to retain 50% on Lindholm


      You conveniently ignore the fact that the Rangers are getting a 4th back which is likely to be early in the round.

      Hawks accept the 1st, 3rd and 4th proposals, decline the 5th (would depend on who the players are) and I honestly don’t know enough about the Avalanche prospect to offer an educated opinion on that proposal.
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      16 janv. à 17 h 43
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      Quoting: dgibb10
      He got a new contract. 2 more year after this one at 4.25 which is a number the devils can’t afford to pay for Dickinson


      Good for him, next!
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      16 janv. à 17 h 44
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      Quoting: Smitty426
      Good for him, next!


      Yep. Good to see him rewarded for his quality play this year, but it means he’s not a devils target anymore.

      Onto Trenin and Duhaime imo for that role
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      16 janv. à 22 h 29
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      Quoting: dgibb10
      Yep. Good to see him rewarded for his quality play this year, but it means he’s not a devils target anymore.

      Onto Trenin and Duhaime imo for that role


      Those were my two before Dickinson
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      17 janv. à 13 h 51
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      Quoting: Garak
      Kane's base salary last season was only $2.9M. The deadline is is about 2/3's of the season. $2.9M X 2/3 = $1.9M, $2.9M - $1.9M = $1M, and 25% of $1M is $250K. Kane was only owed $250K by AZ. Lindholm's base salary for this season is $4.85M. Which means, if this trade is at the deadline, and CHI retains 50%, that would leave CHI liable for $825K. That is more than what Kane was owed.


      Let's go back to 2022. Max Domi's salary was $6M. (with a cap hit of $5.3M). Florida retained half when he was traded to Carolina. $6M x 2/3= $4M, $6M-$4M=$2M, 25% of $2M is $500k.

      His retention was traded for a 6th round pick and the rights to Yegor Korshkov, who was unsigned and is still in Russia.

      Cap > real money to teams like the Rangers, and nobody has ever gotten a 2nd solely for retention. Don't care if you attach a 4th, doesn't make it worth it.
      17 janv. à 13 h 51
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      Quoting: Snowhawk18
      You conveniently ignore the fact that the Rangers are getting a 4th back which is likely to be early in the round.


      Still not worth the difference imo. Even in some bizarro world where the Rangers win the cup and say the Blackhawks finish dead last, that's still 32 picks apart. Pick 64 is worth double the value (in Game Score Value Added) as pick 97, so not worth it. Let's say the actual value is worth a 3rd for retention, based on precedent. The Rangers (or potentially Dallas') 3rd is not covering the difference in this scenario lmao.[/quote]
      17 janv. à 14 h 32
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      Quoting: BroadwayBlueshirts
      Let's go back to 2022. Max Domi's salary was $6M. (with a cap hit of $5.3M). Florida retained half when he was traded to Carolina. $6M x 2/3= $4M, $6M-$4M=$2M, 25% of $2M is $500k.

      His retention was traded for a 6th round pick and the rights to Yegor Korshkov, who was unsigned and is still in Russia.

      Cap > real money to teams like the Rangers, and nobody has ever gotten a 2nd solely for retention. Don't care if you attach a 4th, doesn't make it worth it.


      I am very familiar with that trade and I've already had this debate about it multiple times. But, you've wasted your time. Completely different situations. There are more comps that say different than that, and the market and teams involved are entirely different and in completely different situations. A single trade from two years ago is not the end all be all of 3rd party retention trades. Especially not one where the team trading Domi was desperate to do so, if you recall the headlines surrounding his availability and disappointment with his play. I can guarantee you that no team is doing that this year. Especially not after what AZ charged last year to retain far less on Kane, among other comps.

      Also, I can almost guarantee they were under the impression that Korshkov was going to sign with them.
       
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