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Next year with Marner and Gibson

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Équipe: 2024-25 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 12 janv. 2024
Publié: 12 janv. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3875 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
53 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1900 000 $
13 000 000 $
1801 000 $
1801 000 $
1801 000 $
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1.
ANA
  1. Mittelstadt, Casey [Droits de RFA]
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BUF
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (DAL)
NYR
  1. Luukkonen, Ukko-Pekka [Droits de RFA]
3.
BUF
  1. Marner, Mitchell (4 650 690 $ retained)
  2. Reaves, Ryan
  3. Choix de 7e ronde en 2024 (OTT)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2026 (TOR)
TOR
  1. Quinn, Jack
  2. Wahlberg, Anton
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (BUF)
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2387 500 000 $85 934 547 $0 $2 175 000 $1 565 453 $
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7 142 857 $7 142 857 $
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M-NTC
UFA - 6
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6 252 310 $6 252 310 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 1
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9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 3
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7 100 000 $7 100 000 $
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UFA - 6
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
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UFA - 2
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855 833 $855 833 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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918 333 $918 333 $
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RFA - 2
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance525 000 $$525K)
AD
RFA - 2
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
900 000 $900 000 $
AD
UFA
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 8
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3 333 333 $3 333 333 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
6 400 000 $6 400 000 $
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M-NTC
UFA - 3
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4 285 714 $4 285 714 $
DG
UFA - 6
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8 350 000 $8 350 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 7
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 000 000 $$1M)
G
RFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
RFA
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
801 000 $801 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA
801 000 $801 000 $
DD
UFA
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12 janv. à 14 h 29
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Get out of here
12 janv. à 14 h 31
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Anaheim certainly declines

We don’t need another center & Mittelstadt doesn’t feel like a guy Pat would target anyways
12 janv. à 14 h 36
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If the Leaf's for some reason decided to move on from Marner and he waived his no trade clause they would be doing it for the cap space so there would be 0% chance they would retain salary
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12 janv. à 14 h 40
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Rangers pass.
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12 janv. à 14 h 50
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no retention and buffalos pick this year for the leafs to consider
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12 janv. à 17 h 8
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Quoting: Onlyfairtrades1
Rangers pass.


I’d consider it. NYR G coaches are top notch. I think he could fit as a back up next year and possibly the starter moving forward if Shesty needs too much
12 janv. à 17 h 16
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
Anaheim certainly declines

We don’t need another center & Mittelstadt doesn’t feel like a guy Pat would target anyways


I don’t see the Sabres wanting to do that trade either
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12 janv. à 17 h 17
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Leafs aren’t doing that even without retention lol not even close like at all
12 janv. à 17 h 19
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Quoting: kous
If the Leaf's for some reason decided to move on from Marner and he waived his no trade clause they would be doing it for the cap space so there would be 0% chance they would retain salary


It’s only for 1 year though
If it gets the Leafs a better return for Marner- and it definitely should- then they should do it

However, the last thing the Leafs should do is trade Marner
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12 janv. à 17 h 20
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Quoting: Herb_Brooks
no retention and buffalos pick this year for the leafs to consider


Quoting: CoryTheGreat
Leafs aren’t doing that even without retention lol not even close like at all


Don’t worry, Sabres have NO INTEREST in Marner
This ACGM was not done by a Sabres fan
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12 janv. à 17 h 35
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Quoting: NYR1983
I’d consider it. NYR G coaches are top notch. I think he could fit as a back up next year and possibly the starter moving forward if Shesty needs too much


I would only consider it if Quick is going to retire and Garand isn't ready yet, but he probably will be, so no need to waste a draft pick.
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12 janv. à 18 h 21
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Quoting: AntiAnalytics
It’s only for 1 year though
If it gets the Leafs a better return for Marner- and it definitely should- then they should do it

However, the last thing the Leafs should do is trade Marner


The Leaf's are in their contender window and if they were to make this deal its because they are using that money on someone else not to get a better prospect or pick.
12 janv. à 18 h 26
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Get out of here


Quoting: kous
If the Leaf's for some reason decided to move on from Marner and he waived his no trade clause they would be doing it for the cap space so there would be 0% chance they would retain salary


Quoting: Herb_Brooks
no retention and buffalos pick this year for the leafs to consider


Quoting: CoryTheGreat
Leafs aren’t doing that even without retention lol not even close like at all


Quoting: AntiAnalytics
It’s only for 1 year though
If it gets the Leafs a better return for Marner- and it definitely should- then they should do it

However, the last thing the Leafs should do is trade Marner


SERIOUS QUESTION FOR OP - DO YOU THINK THIS IS FAIR FOR BUFFALO?

Toronto Receives:

Tage Thompson ($1,400,000 retained) *** Same $9,300,000 retention as Marner, but spread out over 7 years.
2026 3rd round pick (BUF)
2024 7th round pick (BUF)

Buffalo Receives:

Nick Robertson *** Near identical PPG and GPG as Quinn over last 2 seasons. Both are 22 year old wingers.
Fraser Minten *** Drafted 1 spot earlier than Wahlberg in 2022. Both play center. Canada's captain at WJC.
2026 1st round pick (TOR)

*** M. Marner = 1.30 points per game over last 3 seasons.
*** Thompson = 1.00 points per game over last 3 seasons.
*** Thompson and Marner are both both 26 years old.
*** Thompson's bigger, but Marner's a Selke finalist.

Are you trading Thompson for that?
12 janv. à 18 h 28
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Quoting: drewjenkins
Serious question for the OP:

Do you think this trade is fair for Buffalo?


TORONTO RECEIVES:
Tage Thompson ($1,400,000 retained) *** Same $9,300,000 retention as Marner, but spread out over 7 years.
2026 3rd round pick (BUF)
2024 7th round pick (BUF)

BUFFALO RECEIVES;
Nick Robertson *** Near identical PPG and GPG as Quinn over last 2 seasons. Both are 22 year old wingers.
Fraser Minten *** Drafted 1 spot earlier than Wahlberg in 2022. Both play center. Canada's captain at WJC.
2026 1st round pick (TOR)

*** Thompson and Marner are both both 26 years old.
*** Thompson much bigger, but Marner gets Selke nods.
*** M. Marner = 1.30 points per game over last 3 seasons.
*** Thompson = 1.00 points per game over last 3 seasons.

That implies 2 years of marner at 11 million is worth the same as 7 years of tage at 7 million
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12 janv. à 18 h 32
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Quoting: drewjenkins
Serious question for the OP:

Do you think this trade is fair for Buffalo?


TORONTO RECEIVES:
Tage Thompson ($1,400,000 retained) *** Same $9,300,000 retention as Marner, but spread out over 7 years.
2026 3rd round pick (BUF)
2024 7th round pick (BUF)

BUFFALO RECEIVES;
Nick Robertson *** Near identical PPG and GPG as Quinn over last 2 seasons. Both are 22 year old wingers.
Fraser Minten *** Drafted 1 spot earlier than Wahlberg in 2022. Both play center. Canada's captain at WJC.
2026 1st round pick (TOR)

*** Thompson and Marner are both both 26 years old.
*** Thompson much bigger, but Marner gets Selke nods.
*** M. Marner = 1.30 points per game over last 3 seasons.
*** Thompson = 1.00 points per game over last 3 seasons.


I don't think 1 year of mitch marner is more valuable than 6 years of Tage Thompson, no
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12 janv. à 18 h 37
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Quoting: drewjenkins
SERIOUS QUESTION FOR OP - DO YOU THINK THIS IS FAIR FOR BUFFALO?

Toronto Receives:

Tage Thompson ($1,400,000 retained) *** Same $9,300,000 retention as Marner, but spread out over 7 years.
2026 3rd round pick (BUF)
2024 7th round pick (BUF)

Buffalo Receives:

Nick Robertson *** Near identical PPG and GPG as Quinn over last 2 seasons. Both are 22 year old wingers.
Fraser Minten *** Drafted 1 spot earlier than Wahlberg in 2022. Both play center. Canada's captain at WJC.
2026 1st round pick (TOR)

*** M. Marner = 1.30 points per game over last 3 seasons.
*** Thompson = 1.00 points per game over last 3 seasons.
*** Thompson and Marner are both both 26 years old.
*** Thompson's bigger, but Marner's a Selke finalist.

Are you trading Thompson for that?


Absolutely not
That’s not to say that Tage is more valuable than Marner,
although i could make that argument based on their contracts

But my MAIN POINT would be:
The Sabres won’t trade for Marner, period

The last thing we’d be interested in is a high priced forward we’d have to give a HUGE contract to
We just wouldn’t want him
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12 janv. à 18 h 39
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Quoting: AntiAnalytics
Absolutely not
That’s not to say that Tage is more valuable than Marner,
although i could make that argument based on their contracts

But my MAIN POINT would be:
The Sabres won’t trade for Marner, period

The last thing we’d be interested in is a high priced forward we’d have to give a HUGE contract to
We just wouldn’t want him


Oaky then
12 janv. à 18 h 47
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Quoting: AntiAnalytics
Absolutely not
That’s not to say that Tage is more valuable than Marner,
although i could make that argument based on their contracts

But my MAIN POINT would be:
The Sabres won’t trade for Marner, period

The last thing we’d be interested in is a high priced forward we’d have to give a HUGE contract to
We just wouldn’t want him


It’s funny that we priced these guys so high that we can’t even trade them.
12 janv. à 18 h 55
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Quoting: DealFinder67
It’s funny that we priced these guys so high that we can’t even trade them.


IF Marner was Available to be moved 31 teams would line up to pay him and trade for him
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12 janv. à 20 h 1
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Quoting: kous
IF Marner was Available to be moved 31 teams would line up to pay him and trade for him


No, they wouldn’t
As good as he is, most teams simply can’t fit him into their Cap
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Quoting: DealFinder67
It’s funny that we priced these guys so high that we can’t even trade them.


And it’s not that Marner isn’t a great player
It’s just that he comes with a HUGE cap hit, & if we were to bring him in then we couldn’t afford to upgrade goaltending
or top4 RD
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12 janv. à 20 h 17
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Quoting: AntiAnalytics
And it’s not the Marner isn’t a great players
It’s just that he comes with a HUGE cap hit, & if we were to bring him in then we couldn’t afford to upgrade goaltending
or top4 RD


🤣 that is the Leafs problem too. We sign these 4 to monster contracts and now we scramble to find depth and quality D every year
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12 janv. à 20 h 19
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IF Marner was Available to be moved 31 teams would line up to pay him and trade for him


Not at 12.5+M. Someone would offer that I’m sure but 31 teams are not in the boat to take that on.
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12 janv. à 20 h 20
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🤣 that is the Leafs problem too. We sign these 4 to monster contracts and now we scramble to find depth and quality D every year


As a Sabres fan, i loved it when u guys signed Nylander
Crazy to me that u guys aren’t learning from past mistakes

Maybe when Tavares is gone u guys will use his Cap better?
But for now it looks like you’re just doing the same old thing again….???
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12 janv. à 22 h 25
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Quoting: AntiAnalytics
As a Sabres fan, i loved it when u guys signed Nylander
Crazy to me that u guys aren’t learning from past mistakes

Maybe when Tavares is gone u guys will use his Cap better?
But for now it looks like you’re just doing the same old thing again….???


It’s crazy and I find it frustrating. Seems like jersey and ticket sales are more important than winning a Stanley Cup here.
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