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Créé par: fil97

Équipe: 2023-24 Penguins de Pittsburgh

Date de création initiale: 9 janv. 2024

Publié: 9 janv. 2024

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

people need to understand that Jake is one of the best wingers in the sport.

any team that will want Jake isn't trading for him to be a rental obviously. they will trade for him with an extension in place and then move other players in the summer to make the cap work.

this is NOT to suggest Jake is going to go to any of these teams (he wouldn't go in most of this places anyway) it is just to show the value that would be needed to trade for a player of his caliber.

Transactions

PIT

Mintyukov, Pavel
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (ANA)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (PIT)

ANA

jake guentzel retained 3mil

PIT

Durzi, Sean
Ingram, Connor
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (ARI)

ARI

jake guentzel retained 3mil

PIT

Frederic, Trent
Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (BOS)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2026 (BOS)

BOS

jake guentzel retained 3mil

PIT

Benson, Zach
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (BUF)

BUF

jake guentzel retained 3mil

PIT

Andersson, Rasmus
Zary, Connor
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (CGY)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (CGY)

CGY

jake guentzel retained 3mil

PIT

Necas, Martin
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (CAR)

CAR

jake guentzel retained 3mil

PIT

Drouin, Jonathan
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (COL)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (COL)

COL

jake guentzel retained 3mil

PIT

Jiricek, David
Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (LAK)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (CBJ)

CBJ

jake guentzel retained 3mil

PIT

Raymond, Lucas
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (BOS)

DET

jake guentzel retained 3mil

10.

PIT

and so on ....

EDM

jake guentzel retained 3mil

Rachats de contrats

Jack Johnson: 916 667 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Jeff Petry: 1 562 500 $ (25%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2024
2025
2026

FORMATION

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
25	83 500 000 $	82 429 341 $	0 $	4 912 500 $	1 070 659 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Guentzel, Jake 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 1	Crosby, Sidney 8 700 000 $8 700 000 $ C NMC UFA - 2	Rakell, Rickard 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 5
Benson, Zach 950 000 $950 000 $ (650 000 $$650K) AG RFA - 3	Malkin, Evgeni 6 100 000 $6 100 000 $ C NMC UFA - 3	Necas, Martin 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ AD RFA - 1
Smith, Reilly 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 2	Eller, Lars 2 450 000 $2 450 000 $ C UFA - 2	Rust, Bryan 5 125 000 $5 125 000 $ AD, AG NMC UFA - 5
O'Connor, Drew 925 000 $925 000 $ AG UFA - 2	Zary, Connor 863 333 $863 333 $ (212 500 $$212K) AG, C RFA - 2	Frederic, Trent 2 300 000 $2 300 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2
Harkins, Jansen 850 000 $850 000 $ AG UFA - 1	Drouin, Jonathan 825 000 $825 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Raymond, Lucas 925 000 $925 000 $ (2 500 000 $$2M) AD, AG RFA - 1
Zohorna, Radim 775 000 $775 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Pettersson, Marcus 4 025 175 $4 025 175 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 2	Letang, Kris 6 100 000 $6 100 000 $ DD NMC UFA - 5	Nedeljkovic, Alex 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ G UFA - 1
Mintyukov, Pavel 918 333 $918 333 $ (550 000 $$550K) DG RFA - 3	Karlsson, Erik 10 000 000 $10 000 000 $ DD NMC UFA - 4	Ingram, Connor 1 950 000 $1 950 000 $ G UFA - 3
Jiricek, David 918 333 $918 333 $ (1 000 000 $$1M) DD RFA - 3	Andersson, Rasmus 4 550 000 $4 550 000 $ DD UFA - 3
Durzi, Sean 1 700 000 $1 700 000 $ DG/DD RFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
		Ruhwedel, Chad 800 000 $800 000 $ DD UFA - 1
		Shea, Ryan 775 000 $775 000 $ DG UFA - 1
		Joseph, Pierre-Olivier 825 000 $825 000 $ DG RFA - 1
		Graves, Ryan 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 6
		Jarry, Tristan 5 375 000 $5 375 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 5
		Acciari, Noel 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ C, AD M-NTC UFA - 3
		Nieto, Matt 900 000 $900 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2
		Ludvig, John 775 000 $775 000 $ DG RFA - 2
		Puustinen, Valtteri 775 000 $775 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1
		Carter, Jeff 3 125 000 $3 125 000 $ AD, C NMC UFA - 1

9 janv. à 12 h 51

mv21227

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A rental winger is not worth that much, except for possibly the Colorado, Arizona, and maybe Boston packages. The Calgary and Columbus ones are especially bad

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9 janv. à 12 h 53

Bruins1054_gmb

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The Bruins are not going to give up a cost-controlled asset and two firsts for a rental to help them lose in the first round of the playoffs.

9 janv. à 12 h 54

wojme

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You're not getting Benson for a rental lmao

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9 janv. à 12 h 54

fil97

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Quoting: mv21227

A rental winger is not worth that much, except for possibly the Colorado, Arizona, and maybe Boston packages. The Calgary and Columbus ones are especially bad

oh he is definitely worth that much with an extension, considering his value every team will trade for him extended and then move pieces to make the cap fit in the summer.

9 janv. à 12 h 57

SK101

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Literally every team declines. You are way off. He probably gets a late first, decent prospect, and a solid nhl player. Look at the debrincat trade for a comp

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9 janv. à 12 h 57

fil97

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Quoting: Bruins1054_gmb

The Bruins are not going to give up a cost-controlled asset and two firsts for a rental to help them lose in the first round of the playoffs.

Quoting: wojme

You're not getting Benson for a rental lmao

not saying he is going to Boston was just showing what he'd be worth. plus check the description. NOT a rental.

9 janv. à 12 h 58

OldNYIfan

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(1) Anaheim doesn't need retention, and isn't going to pay for it.

(2) Anaheim isn't trading young potential All-Stars for a guy we'd have trouble re-signing.

(3) Guentzel doesn't fit Anaheim particularly well unless Trevor Zegras is traded for a #1 RW.

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9 janv. à 12 h 59

fil97

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Quoting: SK101

Literally every team declines. You are way off. He probably gets a late first, decent prospect, and a solid nhl player

maybe for a top 6 winger that is the price. not for a guentzel. you think that your offer would satisfy Toronto for Nylander?

9 janv. à 13 h 0

fil97

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

not saying he is going to Anaheim. its just to show the value needed. he'd never waive for Anaheim either way

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9 janv. à 13 h 0

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SK101

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Quoting: fil97

maybe for a top 6 winger that is the price. not for a guentzel. you think that your offer would satisfy Toronto for Nylander?

Guentzel is almost 30 and needs a new contract. You’re insane. For example the jackets wouldn’t consider jiricek for Guentzel 1 for 1 let alone adding. Best bet is to trade him for a contender

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9 janv. à 13 h 0

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Bruins1054_gmb

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Quoting: fil97

not saying he is going to Boston was just showing what he'd be worth. plus check the description. NOT a rental.

I don't see why Guentzel would not want to hit the open market.

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9 janv. à 13 h 3

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fil97

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Quoting: Bruins1054_gmb

I don't see why Guentzel would not want to hit the open market.

if he wants to hit the open market he'll probably just stay in pitt trying one last run. don't think anyone is trading this many assets for a rental, and if dubas trades him for a late first and some small deal he'll look like a fool.

9 janv. à 13 h 4

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palhal

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Sorry bud, it's not that easy to force "an extension in place". Certainly non playoff teams aren't giving up good young players and picks just to acquire 30 years old Gunetzal with an extension.

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9 janv. à 13 h 22

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wojme

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Quoting: fil97

not saying he is going to Boston was just showing what he'd be worth. plus check the description. NOT a rental.

He doesn't fit buffalo at 30 years old

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9 janv. à 13 h 29

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bwhsocal

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AZ hangs up real fast - i like jake love him on AZ (how much of his success is crosby though) but a top 4 D (RFA), a solid G (under good contract for couple years) and a middle 1st way too much for a W thats 30yo start of next season

9 janv. à 13 h 48

#16

Capitalfail67

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every trade here is hilariously an overpayment

9 janv. à 13 h 55

#17

Shibbal18

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I love these kind of posts because the value always shifts wildly from team to team.

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9 janv. à 14 h 8

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GeneralLandro

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Thinking you can get Mintyukov let alone us adding picks for your old rental is absolutely adorable

9 janv. à 14 h 33

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AntiAnalytics

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Sabres LAUGH at that ABSURD offer
Nice try though “homer”

10 janv. à 10 h 21

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Mikej

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add malkin with retention and its a deal

12 janv. à 4 h 50

#21

fil97

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Quoting: Capitalfail67

every trade here is hilariously an overpayment

well, easy to see that you're comment is biased looking at your pic. your opinion is just not required.

12 janv. à 4 h 50

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fil97

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Quoting: Mikej

add malkin with retention and its a deal

lol, and you add other 12 first rounders

12 janv. à 4 h 51

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fil97

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Quoting: AntiAnalytics

Sabres LAUGH at that ABSURD offer
Nice try though “homer”

not absurd, that kid won't be ever as good as Jake and the first will alway be a gamble

12 janv. à 4 h 52

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fil97

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Quoting: GeneralLandro

Thinking you can get Mintyukov let alone us adding picks for your old rental is absolutely adorable

thinking that your rookie will become half the player Jake is, is absolutely adorable.

12 janv. à 4 h 54

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fil97

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Quoting: Shibbal18

I love these kind of posts because the value always shifts wildly from team to team.

honestly don't think it does here, look at the BUF,ANA,DET,CBJ,CANES are more or less same value imo

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