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Mesar seems to have taken an enormous step this year. Most improved prospect award!

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Canucks pass.IMHO.

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Mesar seems to have taken an enormous step this year. Most improved prospect award!

And this team needs that kind of skill. Playing with another speedster like Newhook would be fascinating. I prefer Newhook on the wing as he seems to be more of a complementary player that can use his wicked shot in space rather than a floater in the middle of the size.

Mesar stepped up HUGE for Slovakia and was their best player in big moments including the qtrs. Ylonen continues to impress in small minutes with plugs like Pezz and waiver fodder like Stephens.

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would a Newhook Mesar Anderson be a great line for you?

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I agree Newhook is clearly a winger.

The blue line will work itself out:

I don't want to overreact to Barron's recent defensive woes.
I don't want to overreact to Xhekaj's recent success in the AHL.
I don't want to overreact to Reinbacher's underwhelming season.
If I had to guess I think Xhekaj and Mailloux might one day make a nice bottom pair and they are clearly playing well off each other.

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would a Newhook Mesar Anderson be a great line for you?

Do you think Mesar is a center in the NHL? To me it's pretty clear he's more effective as a winger and it gives him the freedom to express himself offensively.

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Do you think Mesar is a center in the NHL? To me it's pretty clear he's more effective as a winger and it gives him the freedom to express himself offensively.

i don't think so that's why i'm asking

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i don't think so that's why i'm asking

The move to RW helped him in the OHL. If he was a center, he would be playing center in Kitchener.

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I agree Newhook is clearly a winger.

The blue line will work itself out:

It will play out for sure. I'm quite sure Matheson will be flipped, either 2025 offseason, or the TDL.
Until then, they go 11F-7D. Struble is clearly an NHL'r. The hockey sense, strength and grit, he makes trading a Xhekaj.. interesting.

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I don't want to overreact to Barron's recent defensive woes.
I don't want to overreact to Xhekaj's recent success in the AHL.
I don't want to overreact to Reinbacher's underwhelming season.
If I had to guess I think Xhekaj and Mailloux might one day make a nice bottom pair and they are clearly playing well off each other.

Barron is not my favourite. RHD are too valuable as a trade chip. I'll always bring up the Lundkvist example whom finally got into the lineup after the Miro Heiskanen injury but they were playing a bunch of nobodies and overloading Miro and Harley. Flip Barron already! I rather they try out Tourigny as a puck mover and they have Bogdan coming in 2026-27.

Decisions are looming all over the lineup not just LHD but the goalie situation. Primeau is he really a solution or do they try to grab a goalie from Philly?

The center situation is still influx. Do they resign Monahan? Is Dach a center? Newhook? Mesar? Beck doesnt look promising at this point. They'll need to target another center at the draft or through trade.
The only legit center they have going forward is Suzuki whos taken another step.

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Canucks pass.IMHO.

No they don't! Young RHD with offensive upside go for more. That aint the Canucks decision to make but instead if they Habs even want to trade him to Vancouver, the lineup would be 10 plus teams long otherwise they easily get this price plus elsewhere.

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Mesar seems to have taken an enormous step this year. Most improved prospect award!

I don't know why everyone thought Mesar had a weak rookie campaign in the OHL last season. He was basically a ppg player (51 points in 52 GP) while trying to adjust to the smaller ice surface. I was happy with the pick and couldn't wait for the acclamation to be completed. Now that that process is finished we are seeing the full potential of Mesar and why he was a first round pick

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Quoting: Campabee

The Kulich hype certainly made the comparable tough to stomach, add to the nepotism debate because he's a Slovak. The pick seemed lazy after two draft trades and so much hype at the draft. The expectations were impossible to meet for Mesar unless he played at an elite level that D1.

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Thats Your opinion.Mine is Canucks pass on overpaying for him.A second would sufice In MY opinion.

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If we can acquire talent like that at 26OA in a weak draft year, why do we need to tank again?

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If we can acquire talent like that at 26OA in a weak draft year, why do we need to tank again?

They shouldnt be tanking anymore but progressing. I don't see playoffs unless they goalie their way next year. That said I do believe in Montembeault.

The coaching, defensive structure, young miscues and lack of firepower up front will be very difficult to overcome in a very tough division going forward.

Simply look at the Sens and Sabres. They are great lessons in building a squad. KH need to go after talent aggressively whether through trade as Hughes has done with Dach, Newhook or through the draft with some risk.

2024 they cant keep grabbing these defensive high picks especially as the top10 here has a bunch of Dmen with question marks. I'm all for flipping a bunch of picks at the TDL and using their LTIR space. There's a lot of possibilities here for a big swing not just the offseason but at the TDL with desperate teams like the Oilers, Pens, Leafs, Jets, Flames and Knights.

Grabbing a Lindholm with an extension? That makes losing Monahan and Dvorak palatable.

Holloway at a discount?

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Quoting: Andy_Dick

TBH, I had Mesar going a bit higher (around 20th) so when we got him at 26th I was quite happy about it. I also had a few other guys going higher (Kulich, Lambert, Howard and Schaefer) and a few guys who surprised me with how high they were taken (Korchinski, Kemell, Bechtel and Ohgren).

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If we can acquire talent like that at 26OA in a weak draft year, why do we need to tank again?

Wasn't the 2022 draft considered to be a good draft? Not as good as the 2023 draft but still better than 2020, 2021 or 2024

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Quoting: Campabee

Wasn't the 2022 draft considered to be a good draft? Not as good as the 2023 draft but still better than 2020, 2021 or 2024

No way! It was a pandemic draft with limited scouting. Lets face it outside the top20 or so picks in most drafts SCA is sort of grasping.

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If we can acquire talent like that at 26OA in a weak draft year, why do we need to tank again?

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I personally wouldn't move the 2024 1st until the draft, if Lindstrom is gone then move the pick. I feel like Lindstrom could be our next Caufield, Guhle, Hutson, Reinbacher type of steal and very much complete our prospect pool rebuild. Then going into the 2024-25 season, start moving out picks and prospects like Beck, Farrell, Engstrom, Harris, Kidney and Barron for long-term upgrades to be contenders in 2025-26

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Lindholm & Monahan back on the same squad in a Habs uniform next year? Yes indeed!

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Fair approach, but not the only approach IMO.

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No way! It was a pandemic draft with limited scouting. Lets face it outside the top20 or so picks in most drafts SCA is sort of grasping.

Yes, I remember the scouting issues but talent wise I thought the 1st round had a lot of top line quality players in it, not elite talent but still good players

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Fair approach, but not the only approach IMO.

Definitely not the only approach lol

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Fair approach, but not the only approach IMO.

There's no wrong answer rn because this is all projections and things will happen even in a perfect rebuild with all the lottery luck (Jersey this season) but status quo should never be an option.

The best quality of Hughes is much like Brisebois, he's unafraid and creative unlike say Ken Holland smh. I rather trade all the 1st round picks if it gets just one Stanley Cup in the next 15 years. That is all that matters besides putting forth an entertaining product.

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