Not worried at all, it will take time to fix the mess that Dubas left behind. Also, Panthers were close to missing the playoffs and went to the SCF. Playoffs is what matters, the regular season does not

I will admit though, the biggest mistake Tre has made during his tenure here so far was keeping Keefe. No one respects him behind the bench but the only reason why the core four likes him is because he's an easy coach. They get all the time offs they want, they have music during practices, and there is no accountability. If Tre ever hires Berube, Mitch Marner is requesting a trade the second he can

Panthers had a 10 million dollar Vezina winning goalie.

Woll or Jones could potentially become this year's version of Adin Hill but that's asking a lot.

But also remember that Bob had a .900 save percentage in the regular season which in many eyes don't see that as being "good" (even though we could use a guy like him). He was a different animal in the playoffs

The point is to get into the playoffs and it's any mans game

The only point I agree with is that the team built as is isn’t a contender. Other than that, this seems like an overreaction more than anything.

Tavares is a great captain on ice, he’s just not the type to grab headlines. He’s not gonna get in your face and yell and punch someone because he’s more valuable on the ice than sitting in the box. But the guy does everything a good captain needs to do - he’s a point per game, he wins faceoffs at an elite level, he’s a frequent net front presence and he voices his opinion, just not in the headlines type of way. Could a change be needed, sure. But to call him the problem seems more like taking accountability away from the team than anything.

Keefe isn’t the issue at all. You can’t have the same core for almost a decade and go through 2 great coaches and still blame the coach. Keefe wants an aggressive team, he sees the value in that - but to his defence, when was he ever given that? Dubas didn’t give it. Treliving has started but that kind of change doesn’t happen over night.

You can’t necessarily blame Treliving for not bringing in what the fans exactly want. Every team in the league what’s a legit top 4 right handed shot, they’re almost a unicorn nowadays and when they’re available they’re not cheap. A GM has to weight cost vs acquisition and just because it fills a need doesn’t mean it’s worth the cost. Same goes for 3C, there’s just not a lot out there in reality. The depth acquisitions have been great, and frankly I think Domi has been pretty solid too. No reason to hate on him. Bertuzzi has been solid just in consistent which happens with some players and new teams. It was a 1 year risk that really had no repercussions. Nothing wrong with that. Only one that hurts Treliving is Klingberg and the injury but you can’t blame a GM for an injury unless he knew about it when he signed him. Treliving wanted Dumba first and offered him the same deal that Klingberg got but Dumba was waiting for a multi-year deal worth $5M aav reportedly, and Treliving couldn’t wait for that so he moved on - as a good GM does. And no one predicted Samsonov would fall off this much. Toronto had their doubts about him long term but he’s been a struggle and he’s costing the team points.

I think the Nylander extension will be done before the deadline, both sides seem to want a deal done rather than move him elsewhere so that’s a positive. But losing Brodie to waivers might be one of the dumbest moves and overreactions there is. They need defence and you’re gonna let go of one for nothing? Not smart.

Changes will come in the off-season, in anticipate a lot of them but you can’t blame Treliving for not making trades when he’s said himself that he doesn’t have many quality assets that other teams want - that’s because of Dubas. This team doesn’t have many good prospects and they’re low on picks. If Treliving doesn’t wanna deal off his roster, that leaves him with very little assets to use and he’s doing his best to restock the farm system by trying to keep Minten and Cowan and the 1st round picks but those are exactly what other teams are asking for because no team is gonna help you out for cheap, especially Toronto.

Treliving hasn’t even been here a year yet. Leafs fans need to relax and let him do his thing. When a new GM comes in they’re going to change the type of roster that was there because the last type didn’t work and they have a different vision. Let him do his thing. He had barely any time before he was hired and then it was the draft and free agency. Time wasn’t built in a day.

As an outsider, I think a coaching change could work wonders for TOR AND Matthews. Matthews probably can be a better on ice leader with a little bit of tough love. Also, concentrating all their cap on 3 or 4 players probably doesn't help. Also, I still like Tavares a lot, but when you have that much money tied up on one older player and you want to focus on getting your younger players locked up and bolstering the roster lower in the lineup, a contract like that can make things difficult.

You missed the hard truth of them bringing in a terrible GM to replace a better one

treliving should try and bring in good players who arnt terrible then

Dubas was worse. But, so far, Treliving hasn't been an improvement. I think the real problem is Shanahan. He takes zero accountability and hides behind the GM.

nah, Dubas was able to find value and actually get defenders and goalies who could at least do their jobs. Treliving has thrown away so much cap space and made the team an absolute wreck defensivly. In one short summer they went from a top 10 defensive team to close to the 30th best, and he hasnt even tried to improve goaltending.
Shanahan's biggest issue was being forced into hiring that boston pizza nepo baby by the board

It was Dubas who got Samsonov. He also traded for Murray and signed Mrazek. So, it's safe to say he isn't the best judge of goalie talent. The goalie situation is his mess.

As for finding value, other than Bunting and Kampf, who did Dubas really bring in that over performed their contracts? And aside from Muzzin and Brodie he never brought in good top 4 defencemen during his tenure.

Dubas also kept bringing in guys who got results in net, say what you will about Samsonov and campbell now but dubas pulled them off the scrap pile and both of them were among the best goalies in the league for long stretches and then he moved on. Treliving brought in a guy who has been terrible for a decade and no one else and looks like he isnt gonna do anything else.

As far as bringing in a top 4 defender, two guys like Brodie and Muzzin is a really good start and he brought in two number 4 guys in holl and McCabe. And guys who out performed their contracts? Ok sure, Mikheyev, Spezza, Samsonov , Schenn, Giordano, Lybushkin, Campbell, and more.

If you truly believe in a retool, then why just trade Brodie? When not all the upcoming UFAs....Nylander, Domi, Bertuzzi, Giordano, and more.

Bobrovsky really isn't a good goalie.

Keeping Nylander and trading Marner might be the better option. As for trading Domi and Bertuzzi, that should be done.

No he really is, carried the Panthers to the final till finally burning out, he's still a top 10 goalie in the league.

Nope, everyone would much rather have Tre than that stupid calculator boy. It will take a couple of years for Treliving to fix the mess that calculator boy left behind

He's not top 30 lol top 10

Sure he's not, what a terrible take.. 🤣

Yeah, with great signings like reaves and klingberg he's doing a bang up job. The team has only dropped from a top 10 defensive team to worse than most lotto teams defensively in Treliving's short tenure, cant wait to see what damage he can do with more time.
What a terrible gm, imagine if someone based their entire personality here on championing such a horrible gm?

It's tough to judge after only SIX months of work. He deserves at least two years, especially since Dubas was given 5+ years. But the fact is he was gifted a talented roster, the richest franchise in the league, and the best goal scorer of this generation. So he has zero excuses.

no, he doesnt because his track record previous to the leafs is bad too. Dubas rebuilt a defense in worse shape than what treliving has after the mess lou left him and kept the team competative, treliving is tanking this roster in the way people have been pretending dubas did but because he's part of the old boys club people brush it off. Treliving is a bad gm and has made mostly awful moves for several years now.

He got Hanifin, Weegar, Tanev, Zadorov, drafted Rasmus Anderson. So Treliving has a much better track record of building a solid defense than Dubas has. Treliving actually played the game, unlike Dubas. He knows how physical the game is. So he is the better GM at getting defencemen. But Dubas was better at finding cheap gems like Bunting, Kampf and Lafferty. Dubas would have been the perfect Assistant GM to Treliving.

He traded a better defender for hanifin and got mauled in the weegar trade and zadorov stinks outloud and the leafs were a significantly better defensive team than the flames pretty much every year.

How is Pittsburgh doing? Overpaid on EK while paying that guy $10M embarrassing BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Another prototypical Dubas blunder lmao

Nope wrong again. Every team would rather have the defense group that Tre built in CGY than the Denis Malgin filled group Dubas built in Toronto. Calculator blunder boy thought he could win Stanley Cups with Alex Kerfeet and Justin Holl for 5 years, soft and embarrassing lmao