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If Dubas Stayed

Créé par: Rajvinder
Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 27 déc. 2023
Publié: 27 déc. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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TOR
  1. O'Reilly, Ryan
  2. Schenn, Luke (750 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
O'Reilly said in an interview he was close to resigning with Dubas but talks ended when Shanahan took over.

Similar rumours around Schenn at the time.

THIS ISNT A TRADE THIS IS DUMBING TREs UFA SIGNINGS FOR DUBAS'
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TOR
  1. Acciari, Noel
Détails additionnels:
THIS IS SWAPPING TRES UFA SIGNING FOR DUBAS'
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LAK
  1. Marner, Mitchell
  2. Samsonov, Ilya
Détails additionnels:
The major disagreement was over trading a member of the core 4. Marner seems like the one he would have moved. LA seems like the right target pre-dubois. So let's assume they get Marner over Dubois and Byfield is off the table because they make him their 3C (where Dubois is currently playing).
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TOR
  1. Vilardi, Gabriel
Détails additionnels:
Part of the LA deal.
WPG
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PIT
  1. Jones, Martin
Détails additionnels:
More Dubas UFAs
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27 déc. 2023 à 10 h 42
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Shanahan needs to be fired ASAP he is the moron behind all this BS in TML.
He said no to a core 4 trade and fired Dubas and built this team incapable of a playoff run.
When does he get fired for his hand in all this?
27 déc. 2023 à 10 h 51
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I seriously doubt that LA would have traded Clarke/Kempe/Vilardi for Marner/Samsonov. Would have been a really bad move on the Kings part if that were to happen, I mean all 3 of the Kings players fit in under Marners cap hit alone.
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27 déc. 2023 à 10 h 55
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Quoting: Leafsmustwin
Shanahan needs to be fired ASAP he is the moron behind all this BS in TML.
He said no to a core 4 trade and fired Dubas and built this team incapable of a playoff run.
When does he get fired for his hand in all this?


If they don't make progress soon, it's all on Shanahan. He can't hide behind Dubas anymore.
27 déc. 2023 à 10 h 58
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Dubas wouldn't have moved the big 4 either but he would have done something better about the defence.
27 déc. 2023 à 11 h 3
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Quoting: Luguber
I seriously doubt that LA would have traded Clarke/Kempe/Vilardi for Marner/Samsonov. Would have been a really bad move on the Kings part if that were to happen, I mean all 3 of the Kings players fit in under Marners cap hit alone.


At the time Samsonov was coming off a strong year. Most were projecting a long-term deal for him.

The value isn't far off when you look at what they paid for Dubois (Iafallo, Kupari, Villardi, 2nd).

Their team is much better with this deal than the PLD one.
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27 déc. 2023 à 11 h 5
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Dubas wouldn't have moved the big 4 either but he would have done something better about the defence.


He said in his last press conference he was considering moving one of them and every reputable Toronto analyst from Kyper to Mirtle said he has a trade in place for Marner or Nylander and Shanahan wouldn't allow it.
27 déc. 2023 à 11 h 6
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Shanahan needs to be fired ASAP he is the moron behind all this BS in TML.
He said no to a core 4 trade and fired Dubas and built this team incapable of a playoff run.
When does he get fired for his hand in all this?


He should already be gone.
27 déc. 2023 à 11 h 13
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Quoting: Rajvinder
He said in his last press conference he was considering moving one of them and every reputable Toronto analyst from Kyper to Mirtle said he has a trade in place for Marner or Nylander and Shanahan wouldn't allow it.


No he didn't. And you are making up a bunch of stuff. Dubas said he would consider anything that improved the team. Nothing was off the table. Talking heads putting words into his mouth with their speculation isn't rumors. It's made up click bait. The fact that he didn't trade any of the core in Pittsburgh sure supports that he wouldn't have moved one of the core for TO.

He was fired because he wanted autonomy and Shanahan didn't want to let go.
27 déc. 2023 à 11 h 41
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well, your making up a lot of stuff up for sure as usual. no way they would have entered the season with this duo in net too...
27 déc. 2023 à 14 h 9
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LA would not have done that. Kempe at $5.5M is significantly better than Marner at 8 figures. Take out Clarke and still no.

The Kings gave up what they considered to be three expendable assets in exchange for Dubois. They view neither of Kempe nor Clarke to be expendable, but rather core pieces of the future.

If you want to build a trade for Marner around Vilardi, Iafallo, and Kupari, then maybe there would have been a deal to be made, but still probably not.
27 déc. 2023 à 17 h 53
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Quoting: Rajvinder
At the time Samsonov was coming off a strong year. Most were projecting a long-term deal for him.

The value isn't far off when you look at what they paid for Dubois (Iafallo, Kupari, Villardi, 2nd).

Their team is much better with this deal than the PLD one.


Yes, yes the value is pretty far off, lets compare:
Vilardi is Vilardi
Kempe holds way more value than Iafallo
Brandt Clarke is ofc more valueable than Kupari and a 2nd

Samsonov was hardly the top desirable goalie at the time neither, or else the Leafs would probably have signed him for more than a year.
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