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Rebuild cuz why the hell not

Créé par: sens65
Équipe: 2024-25 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 25 déc. 2023
Publié: 25 déc. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
What a semi realistic Senators teardown would look like. Obviously they aren't going to rebuild again but if they did...

Everyone gets traded except Stutzle and Sanderson.

So...which teams say yes and which say no to these trades?
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UFAANSCAP HIT
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OTT
  1. Chesley, Ryan [Liste de réserve]
  2. Lapierre, Hendrix
  3. Milano, Sonny
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (WSH)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (WSH)
Détails additionnels:
2nd turns into a 1st if the Caps make the conference finals in 2025.
WSH
  1. Batherson, Drake
  2. Chabot, Thomas
Détails additionnels:
Caps go all-in.
2.
OTT
  1. Berggren, Jonatan [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (DET)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (DET)
3.
OTT
  1. Othmann, Brennan
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2026 (NYR)
NYR
  1. Giroux, Claude (3 250 000 $ retained)
4.
OTT
  1. Cowan, Easton
  2. Niemelä, Topi
Détails additionnels:
Price is steep but there are very few rock-solid defensive RHDs in the league.
5.
OTT
  1. Benson, Zach
  2. Krebs, Peyton [Droits de RFA]
  3. Samuelsson, Mattias
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (BUF)
6.
OTT
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (EDM)
EDM
  1. Forsberg, Anton (1 375 000 $ retained)
7.
OTT
  1. Lysell, Fabian
  2. Walsh, Reilly [Droits de RFA]
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2026 (BOS)
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2025
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8 350 000 $8 350 000 $
C
UFA - 7
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
2 950 000 $2 950 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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863 333 $863 333 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
AD, AG
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance450 000 $$450K)
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RFA - 2
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AG, AD
UFA - 2
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C, AG
RFA
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
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UFA
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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8 050 000 $8 050 000 $
DG
UFA - 8
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805 000 $805 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
4 285 714 $4 285 714 $
DG
UFA - 6
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DG/DD, AG
RFA
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850 000 $850 000 $
G
RFA
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DG
UFA
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
UFA
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
900 000 $900 000 $
DD
UFA
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 1
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850 000 $850 000 $
AG
RFA
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850 000 $850 000 $
AG
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25 déc. 2023 à 15 h 4
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All of those deal look wack to me but…Come on man, zero chance leafs make that deal 😅
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25 déc. 2023 à 15 h 8
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Rangers aren’t trading Othmann or Perreault for rentals/older players. We’d be interested for a futures move. Feel they’d prefer taking a run at Chychrun or Tkachuk if OTT wants Othmann and Perreault.
25 déc. 2023 à 15 h 9
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All of those deal look wack to me but…Come on man, zero chance leafs make that deal 😅


All of the deals except maybe the Toronto and Edmonton ones definitely favour the other team. Cowan and Niemela are great prospects but guys like Zub are very rare and there are basically none at his age with that much term left. There would be a huge bidding war for him.
25 déc. 2023 à 15 h 10
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Rangers aren’t trading Othmann or Perreault for rentals/older players. We’d be interested for a futures move. Feel they’d prefer taking a run at Chychrun or Tkachuk if OTT wants Othmann and Perreault.


That's fair but Giroux isn't just any rental he's a guy who singlehandedly makes your team way better. Plus we retained 50%.

And you'd very likely be able to re-sign Giroux for slightly under market value.
25 déc. 2023 à 15 h 17
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All of the deals except maybe the Toronto and Edmonton ones definitely favour the other team. Cowan and Niemela are great prospects but guys like Zub are very rare and there are basically none at his age with that much term left. There would be a huge bidding war for him.


Maybe some other team but zero chance Leafs would move Cowan (maybe Niemela) for a 2nd pairing dman. We disagreed earlier & good example here - Zub is ok but nothing special. SENs are 28th (& consistently out of playoffs) for a reason and it’s not just coaching. Players aren’t that special imo
25 déc. 2023 à 15 h 45
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Some are bad for ottawa and others for the other team
25 déc. 2023 à 15 h 51
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I could see the Sabres being interested in Tkachuk
Idk that we’d give up that much, or if we’d give those particular pieces…. but we have so much young talent, I’d imagine a deal could be made
25 déc. 2023 à 16 h 0
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I could see the Sabres being interested in Tkachuk
Idk that we’d give up that much, or if we’d give those particular pieces…. but we have so much young talent, I’d imagine a deal could be made


I would hope so, but Tkachuk is soooo far from what the Sabres have been building, I'm not sure if they would even understand the trade, let alone be willing to give up multiple high end pieces to get him.
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25 déc. 2023 à 16 h 13
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I could see the caps being interested in bothersome. Idk about chabot
25 déc. 2023 à 16 h 25
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Some are bad for ottawa and others for the other team


I think it evens out. I made an effort to try not to fleece the other teams. Usually with these kinds of posts the rebuilding team ends up with 22 1st round picks AND a better, younger roster than before lol.
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25 déc. 2023 à 16 h 31
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Take Benson out and add Savoie and I would do that Deal.
Benson Mitts Tkachuk
Skinner Tage Tuch
JJ Cozens Quinn
That's a Nice Top 9
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25 déc. 2023 à 16 h 32
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Take Benson out and add Savoie and I would do that Deal.
Benson Mitts Tkachuk
Skinner Tage Tuch
JJ Cozens Quinn
That's a Nice Top 9


I probably wouldn't mind that swap. Savoie was picked 4 spots higher in the draft and they're both small, skilled forwards.
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25 déc. 2023 à 16 h 33
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I would hope so, but Tkachuk is soooo far from what the Sabres have been building, I'm not sure if they would even understand the trade, let alone be willing to give up multiple high end pieces to get him.


He would be almost the perfect add to that Top 9
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25 déc. 2023 à 16 h 36
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I probably wouldn't mind that swap. Savoie was picked 4 spots higher in the draft and they're both small, skilled forwards.


I mean you could take Savoie out and add Ostlund, he's just probably 2 years away. Sabres have a plethora of qaulity Prospects.
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25 déc. 2023 à 16 h 37
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I mean you could take Savoie and add Ostlund, he's just probably 2 years away. Sabres have a plethora of qaulity Prospects.


That's why I chose Buffalo for the Tkachuk trade. I initially went with Florida cuz they'd want both Tkachuks on the same team but...they have legit zero good prospects so I was like nah.
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25 déc. 2023 à 16 h 39
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I mean you could take Savoie and add Ostlund, he's just probably 2 years away. Sabres have a plethora of qaulity Prospects.


Would you combine two of the trades into something like this?

Brady Tkachuk and Artem Zub to Buffalo for Savoie, Ostlund, Krebs, Samuelsson, 1st round pick plus one more good prospect.
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25 déc. 2023 à 16 h 44
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I would hope so, but Tkachuk is soooo far from what the Sabres have been building, I'm not sure if they would even understand the trade, let alone be willing to give up multiple high end pieces to get him.


I wouldn’t say that
We have made an effort to get some physical players lately,
particularly Clifton & Greenway before that
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25 déc. 2023 à 16 h 46
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Would you combine two of the trades into something like this?

Brady Tkachuk and Artem Zub to Buffalo for Savoie, Ostlund, Krebs, Samuelsson, 1st round pick plus one more good prospect.


Dude, that’s quite the overpay
Especially considering Tkachuk isn’t having the year he had last season
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25 déc. 2023 à 16 h 46
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Would you combine two of the trades into something like this?

Brady Tkachuk and Artem Zub to Buffalo for Savoie, Ostlund, Krebs, Samuelsson, 1st round pick plus one more good prospect.


I would need to look at the Cap and stuff, might have to take some money back. But I do like Zub, another guy that could fit. Guys a Dzone start machine at almost 70%.
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25 déc. 2023 à 16 h 47
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It's not bad for Detroit, but Chychrun would be our 8th defensemen on the roster and just clog up more space for Edvinsson (when Chychrun is not injured).
Try a different team and ask for a little more.
25 déc. 2023 à 16 h 58
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Would you combine two of the trades into something like this?

Brady Tkachuk and Artem Zub to Buffalo for Savoie, Ostlund, Krebs, Samuelsson, 1st round pick plus one more good prospect.


Yeah, I would probably take out Ostlund and maybe add kisakov. Maybe add another mid pick but I don't think another good prospect is needed.
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25 déc. 2023 à 17 h 28
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I would need to look at the Cap and stuff, might have to take some money back. But I do like Zub, another guy that could fit. Guys a Dzone start machine at almost 70%.


Samuelsson and Zub's contracts cancel each other out cap wise but yeah Tkachuk is making 8.2.
25 déc. 2023 à 17 h 29
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Dude, that’s quite the overpay
Especially considering Tkachuk isn’t having the year he had last season


Franchise players in their prime don't come around very often.
25 déc. 2023 à 17 h 30
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Quoting: sens65
That's fair but Giroux isn't just any rental he's a guy who singlehandedly makes your team way better. Plus we retained 50%.

And you'd very likely be able to re-sign Giroux for slightly under market value.


It’s good value I won’t argue that but it’s not smart. Rangers are Better off waiting for these guys to come up and use ELC’s to pursue other players and grow with young talent.
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25 déc. 2023 à 20 h 43
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You are not getting Benson.
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