Oilers decline.

The 2024 1st round pick is off the table.& with Campbell’s buyout being reasonable they’d just go that route if they can’t move him

Make it 2025, then.
Anotha year wasted away - I love the mentality.

Read the rest of my comment. They’ll buy Campbell out before over spending to move him.

What do you think another year wasted is related too?

That first one is not good for San Jose. And if you defer the 1st to 2025? Woof, man. Don;t do it!

They arent giving up anything to trade out Campbell. His bonuses are already paid out and during the offseason he'll be bought out @1.5M AAV

Why would San Jose not want more firsts. Never understood this aspect of this debate.

EDM scream they’ll just throw away the year before dumping Campbell and so many think SJS need a kings ransom.



As I’ve said earlier - this decision for EDM to just throw away the year plus add years of dead money is such a spineless stance to hope the team follows.

It doesnt matter what you say as you have no clue what you're talking about when it comes to the Oilers as your other responses to me in the ACGM with a clear headline in the title that said specifically, 'Jack Campbell will be bought out' There is no wasted year. Its called an ALL IN window in the next 3 years under McDrai. The only one that is hard headed is you, kidddo

Umm proper asset management? And yeah, so you get one more 25 1st, which will almost certainly be very late, a 2nd deferred three drafts away, an undrafted nobody and Broberg, who definitely has value but the value is at a low point right now. PLUS you give them a goalie they need. That is a whole lot of discount coupons you're passing around. That package is not worth eating a 13.75M dump. It's negotiating like they have all the leverage, which they do not. You do.

Forget king's ransom. At least try for a pauper's ransom.

I have no clue? So you’re saying having, idk what his bury is without checking, 3.25m I’ll guess; as dead cap when the teams cap strapped is not just accepting your drowning and not making moves to go all in now - plus choosing to add dead money?

Second - you’re assuming these players are going to happily stay. McDavid gets over 14 on market easily, and Drai clears 11.

You assuming these players stay, because btw you’re just as clueless as I as a fan. The likelihood of one of these players leaving is quite high, probably a 50/50 of keeping both or losing one. And if EDM doesn’t pass the first round this year… I wouldn’t stay if I was either guy.

lol so I make a post with Xavier, Petrov, 2 firsts and you’d comment “idiotic ask”. Such a mediocre comment.
“Make a ransom that’s incredibly unlikely”

And if you’re San Jose.. WHOS NOT GOING TO BE GOOD FOR YEARS. And EDM offers Broberg (who I’m not high on but if you move Ferraro you have space for him as his final true shot), Stonehouse who is a solid prospect who EDM can’t argue to keep, a 2nd since you say THAT FIRST IS GOING TO BE LATE, and a 1st is a bad return if it’s the best out there to just have a goalie with a buyout that doesn’t hurt a rebuilding team - and a goalie who helps tank.. I mean you seem like the one improperly managing assets.

Your whole comment is “I want to criticize and I will criticize regardless because I want you to make a stupid value trade, or I’ll just criticize a more realistic trade, pick your poison my comments won’t be useful”

Guy who can’t hold a conversation bows out and resorts to name calling.. ignoring all points made.

lol I can tell you’re looking in a mirror.

Bye buddy hope you learn to converse more with humans in your future!

As a Sharks fan, I'd suppprt taking a 1st and a 2nd in exchange for Campbell.

From an Oiler's perspective, it seems like it would be more important to obtain another solid goaltender than to trade Campbell. That's how you avoid "wasting a year" with this stacked team that struggled with goaltending and defense at the beginning of the year.

Forget about Campbell. How's this:

Kahkonen for a 2nd round pick and Foegele (for cap space)

Wow. I got dizzy trying to follow that. Still no clue what you're on about. It's a bad deal for you, and I'm sticking up for your team, but sure, whatever... I'm the criticize monster. Or something. Hard to tell.

Foegele is having a good year though and they probably can't afford to lose him, they don't have the depth, its a mess of a roster that Peter Holland has created.

If the Canes try to pursue Ferraro again, it will be in the offseason, assuming Skjei walks. Right now, the Canes don’t have any room for another LHD. A 1st, sure, but the Canes aren’t giving up Blake in addition to that 1st for Ferraro.

& how does your proposal save them any time at all?

It doesn't!

He doesnt understand that cap space ONLY buys assets. He's simply listening to argue. Assets are the commodity not time. And, the 'time' aint relevant, dead cap in years 4,5,6 dont mean anything. Its an ALL IN to move to buyout Jack Campbell. Not to save 1.5M and dump multiple picks and prospects cause...cap savings!

OP is searching for the perfect solution which doesnt exist in a league of parity. You will always have ebbs and flows. You can nitpick any move and say it screws their future but the Oilers are trying to actively sabbotage their future as it incorprates the McDrai window and bottoms them out afterwards. The worst you can be is the mushy Minnesota Wild middle ground.

Moving Campbell buys them time, money and assets. It’s this year proposal EDM:

- Moves a first (which is obviously a large asset)
- A 4th that is a 2nd if EDM makes the WCF, which means that they’re actually improving/ winning games
- Broberg (imo little to no value but I’ll give him respect and say it’s a worthwhile add for a team who doesn’t have their LD set)
- Stonehouse (undrafted), not exactly a top 50 prospect.

Like you’re saying I’m ignorant or not listening and what not - but leave your echo chamber for one second of thinking EDM is giving up a lot here.

They’re move money out now, they’ll gain nearly 3m in cap space while already improving their net. This allows EDM multiple different avenues of development.

First they can IMMEDIATELY use their cap space to improve their forward depth. I’d expect moving Connor Brown or bury him and get a quality 3rd liner. Additionally if they choose to move on from Ceci they can potentially upgrade their RD2 as they’re not stuck under Campbell.

If they buyout in EDM, 1.1 the season is dead, followed by 2.3, 2.6, then 3 years of 1.5.
That’s fine for teams that aren’t cap strapped - but EDM is, and they need every penny. With the notable rise in the buyout cost for 2 years, it add complexity and wrinkles in anything EDM wants to do. So they would be free in 6 years.

In this proposal…

10.5 m in dead cap saved - total BUYOUT
20 m in contract saved - his total cost

Either way - MARLEAUS 6m cost a 1st.
Here you’re getting a noticeable improvement in net to backup Skinner, and a guy who can push him as he’s been playing great. Skinner would have a guy he can rely on and compete with. Losing literally nothing of high value other than a first.

As other people have commented on this post they actually think the deals bad for the Sharks… so it seems like there’s alot of echo chamber for you two - feeding off the others energy without actually trying to improve your teams. You lose a first, nothing prospect, imo a bad bet on LD (former first), and a 4th for improving your cap and team and buying immediate time and cap flexibility.

But hey, I KNOW NOTHING I GUESS lmfao.