What This Team Could Look Like April 16th 2024

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Créé par: CaseyFlyman

Équipe: 2023-24 Blue Jackets de Columbus

Date de création initiale: 20 déc. 2023

Publié: 20 déc. 2023

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Based on results so far, this is what I could see the roster looking like by the end of the season. I actually like what Paz has done with the system so far, but Jarmo likely gets fired in the offseason to signal a leadership change. Players on the chopping block include:

Bemstrom: He's an RFA and probably doesn't fit the long-term plans, but he's looked good recently
Peeke: Pleasge get this man off my team
Bean: He's a UFA, and there's better 3LD in the system. Trade him to a contender looking for depth D
Roslovic: He probably doesn't have a spot on the roster when he comes back from injury, let alone long-term. Hasn't been a fit, move him to a contender half-retained.
Provorov: What's the point of keeping a Mateychuk-placeholder when Mateychuk becomes NHL-ready? Sell him for essentially even-value to cost of acquisition

And controversially:
Laine: I don't know what else to say other than he doesn't look right. There's flashes of game-changing power and skill, but 99% of the time he's just coasting or turning over the puck. Find a hockey trade for a team looking at reclaiming his value.
Jenner: Look, I don't know that there's a more valuable realistic trade chip on the roster. Nothing signals "the results aren't good enough" like trading your captain and franchise games-played record holder. This sets us up for a massive leadership change and culture change. The bidding war for a player like Jenner yields a massive haul for the future. Maybe we move some picks for NHL-players in the offseason, like last year.

Players rumored to be on the move that stay put:
Merzlikins: I just don't think there's a non-Campbell swap that makes sense for this team, and the price of a Campbell swap is something Edmonton likely isn't willing to pay. He stays put until the goalie of the future, Jet Greaves, is ready.
Boqvist: He's, IMO, one of the 6 best defensemen on the roster now. May or may not have a long-term spot, but he's signed through next year so we punt on that decision.

Lines are based on what's working now (based on Moneypuck), and what might make sense.

If there's enough discussion on it, maybe I'll make a revision 2 later.

Transactions

CBJ

Olausson, Oskar
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (COL)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (COL)

Détails additionnels:

Colorado gets a legit 2C, with an insanely good cap hit and term. It costs an arm and a leg, considering the retention and bidding war if Jenner became available.

COL

Jenner, Boone (1 875 000 $ retained)

Détails additionnels:

Columbus gets essentially three 1sts for trading the captain, and retaining on what's already one of the best contracts in the league.

CBJ

Zegras, Trevor

Détails additionnels:

Swap of two underperforming, injured forwards. A hockey trade, but Anaheim gets a 2nd and Peeke (an NHL defenseman who needs a change of scenery too) for taking back the much higher cap hit, and for giving up arguably the better player.

ANA

Laine, Patrik
Peeke, Andrew
Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (CBJ)

Détails additionnels:

Columbus trims some of the fat, moving two players who could use a change for a longer-term piece.

CBJ

Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PIT)

Détails additionnels:

Pittsburgh, assuming they're still in contention for a wild card spot, make a deadline move for a scoring forward who can play center.

Could be another team as well. I also considered POJ and a lesser pick coming back instead, so let me know if you'd prefer that.

PIT

Roslovic, Jack (2 000 000 $ retained)

Détails additionnels:

Columbus sells a UFA half-retained for futures.

CBJ

Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (NJD)

Détails additionnels:

NJ picks up some defensive depth with Dougie on LTIR until the playoffs, and doesn't pay much to do so.

NJD

Bean, Jake (1 000 000 $ retained)
Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (CBJ)

Détails additionnels:

Columbus upgrades a pick by selling a UFA, in a quality over quantity move. Of note, they use their final retention slot here for 2024.

CBJ

Dillon, Brenden
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (WPG)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (WPG)

Détails additionnels:

WPG upgrades their 2nd pair, with a good puck moving defenseman on a decent contract with term.

WPG

Provorov, Ivan

Détails additionnels:

Columbus recoup some assets, effectively receiving the can kicked down the road last year. If Mateychuk is ready, Provorov is redundant.

Dillon gets flipped for additional picks or prospects at the deadline.

CBJ

Reaves, Ryan
Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (TOR)

Détails additionnels:

Toronto gets Reaves off the books, and an NHL defenseman with some physicality, all for relatively cheap.

TOR

Dillon, Brenden

Détails additionnels:

Columbus moves a UFA for picks, and buys out Reaves in the offseason ($450,000 cap hit for 4 seasons).

I don't really have a good read on the value here so LMK.

CBJ

Bankier, Caedan

Détails additionnels:

The Wild look to get some cheap depth and a bargain on an inconsistent player that has upside and can play throughout the lineup.

MIN

Bemström, Emil
Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (CBJ)

Détails additionnels:

Columbus pays for a prospect at a position of need, hoping to essentially upgrade one of the now abundant draft picks with a player that may contribute a few years sooner.

Rachats de contrats

Alexander Wennberg: 891 667 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Boone Jenner: 1 875 000 $ (50%)
Jack Roslovic: 2 000 000 $ (100%)
Jake Bean: 1 000 000 $ (42.86%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	83 500 000 $	66 474 166 $	0 $	8 332 500 $	17 025 834 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Gaudreau, Johnny 9 750 000 $9 750 000 $ AG NMC UFA - 6	Fantilli, Adam 950 000 $950 000 $ (3 200 000 $$3M) C RFA - 3	Zegras, Trevor 5 750 000 $5 750 000 $ C, AG RFA - 3
Chinakhov, Yegor 800 000 $800 000 $ AD, AG RFA - 1	Voronkov, Dmitri 925 000 $925 000 $ AG, C, AD RFA - 2	Marchenko, Kirill 925 000 $925 000 $ (850 000 $$850K) AD RFA - 1
Johnson, Kent 925 000 $925 000 $ (1 850 000 $$2M) AG, C RFA - 1	Sillinger, Cole 925 000 $925 000 $ (850 000 $$850K) C RFA - 1	Danforth, Justin 975 000 $975 000 $ AD, C UFA - 1
Texier, Alexandre 1 525 000 $1 525 000 $ AG, C, AD RFA - 1	Kuraly, Sean 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ C, AG M-NTC UFA - 2	Olivier, Mathieu 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ AD UFA - 2
		Reaves, Ryan 1 350 000 $1 350 000 $ AD UFA - 3

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Werenski, Zachary 9 583 333 $9 583 333 $ DG NMC UFA - 5	Severson, Damon 6 250 000 $6 250 000 $ DD NTC UFA - 8	Merzlikins, Elvis 5 400 000 $5 400 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 4
Mateychuk, Denton 918 333 $918 333 $ (500 000 $$500K) DG RFA - 3	Jiricek, David 918 333 $918 333 $ (1 000 000 $$1M) DD RFA - 3	Tarasov, Daniil 1 050 000 $1 050 000 $ G RFA - 2
Svozil, Stanislav 825 000 $825 000 $ (82 500 $$82K) DG RFA - 3	Gudbranson, Erik 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 3	Martin, Spencer 762 500 $762 500 $ G UFA - 1
	Boqvist, Adam 2 600 000 $2 600 000 $ DD RFA - 2

20 déc. 2023 à 17 h 7

TMLBRIAN

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Leafs accept that. I think that is a steal of a deal for the Leafs.

That Colorado trade would require Columbus to send 2 picks back to Colorado as well. Maybe 2 x 3rds.

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20 déc. 2023 à 17 h 12

ArakinSkywalker

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i think i'd probily do the jenner trade. That leave us cap for another add this deadline as well which could really strengthen the playoff push.

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20 déc. 2023 à 17 h 15

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i personally think the avs should save their 2 first round picks for syd but that's just me /s

avs aren't parking with 2 firsts.

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20 déc. 2023 à 17 h 15

swissmontana

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Quoting: ArakinSkywalker

i think i'd probily do the jenner trade. That leave us cap for another add this deadline as well which could really strengthen the playoff push.

two firsts! two!

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20 déc. 2023 à 17 h 15

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No from Winnipeg. No need for another LHD, the Jets have tons of internal options that cost far less.

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20 déc. 2023 à 17 h 16

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I can't see Anaheim trading a young guy on the sunny side of the hill with at least four more years of team control for a short-term guy who's never really achieved the heights hoped for him. Even though he'll only be 26 next year, Laine's two seasons of an $8.7 million cap hit on an underwater contract doesn't really fit Anaheim's window.

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20 déc. 2023 à 17 h 17

CaseyFlyman

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Quoting: TMLBRIAN

Leafs accept that. I think that is a steal of a deal for the Leafs.

That Colorado trade would require Columbus to send 2 picks back to Colorado as well. Maybe 2 x 3rds.

For the Leafs, if I did a 2nd revision, what do you think even value would be? And I don't know about sending picks back, not opposed to it but I think there's other teams that would be willing to make the deal without the extra picks.

20 déc. 2023 à 17 h 21

CaseyFlyman

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Quoting: Windjammer

No from Winnipeg. No need for another LHD, the Jets have tons of internal options that cost far less.

That's fair, so a longer-term option isn't a need. How are you feeling about the D-men that are there already? Genuine curiosity, I don't know that much about Winnipeg.

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20 déc. 2023 à 17 h 21

ArakinSkywalker

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Quoting: swissmontana

two firsts! two!

i mean if they can get syd sure you go with him retained but this is a 2C for 3 years at 1.8. Even if he regresses he'd still be one of the top 3C's for 1.8 the following two years. i think it gives us too good of depth piece down the center for playoffs that it would be worth 2 firsts. Odds are even if we drafted those two players neither would be playing till the 2027 season. I'm always more for win now and pay the price later though.

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20 déc. 2023 à 17 h 22

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Quoting: ArakinSkywalker

yeah, i see what you mean. 2 firsts is just a lot. the only 2 firsts trade i can recall in the past 5 seasons was the EK one.

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20 déc. 2023 à 17 h 22

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Quoting: swissmontana

i personally think the avs should save their 2 first round picks for syd but that's just me /s

avs aren't parking with 2 firsts.

For 3 years having a 2C for less than 2 million I think it would be well worth it and give us a ton of cap flexibility. The next 3 years will be our worst cap years as well if landy comes back. Now in real life I don’t think the jackets would be willing to retain for 3 years on such a good contract

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20 déc. 2023 à 17 h 24

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Not even close for Anaheim

20 déc. 2023 à 17 h 24

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Quoting: CaseyFlyman

Boone at 50% would be a worth ALOT. I agree with you there. But you have the value listed at 3 x 1st round picks. That's too much.

As for the Leafs trade, I am not sure. Last time Dillon was traded it was for 2 x 2nds. He is having a solid year also. I doubt Winnipeg makes that trade to begin with.

Maybe Reaves + 1st for Dillon and a 3rd? Preferably 50% retained.

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20 déc. 2023 à 17 h 24

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Quoting: swissmontana

yeah, i see what you mean. 2 firsts is just a lot. the only 2 firsts trade i can recall in the past 5 seasons was the EK one.

ohh yeah big pill to swallow and looks rough on paper but hopefully they're 32nd overall and if you win the cup the pain of moving 1sts is eased quite a bit haha

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20 déc. 2023 à 17 h 25

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

In fairness, Laine is only 3 years older and they have the same term remaining on their deals. Laine is still a long-term option for any team that would potentially add him, and his next deal theoretically costs less (particularly when Anaheim and Columbus are probably looking to compete). I'm not saying it absolutely makes sense for Anaheim, but Laine does get an unfair perception from time to time IMO.

20 déc. 2023 à 17 h 27

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Quoting: swissmontana

yeah, i see what you mean. 2 firsts is just a lot. the only 2 firsts trade i can recall in the past 5 seasons was the EK one.

Lightning with hagel as well. Would be for a guy on an equally good contract imo. I think Jenner would be just a fine 2C nothing more but that would allow us so much flexibility

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20 déc. 2023 à 17 h 29

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Quoting: TMLBRIAN

3 1sts is a TON, but I think the market drives up the price to that point. How often does a 2C at $1.8M with term come available? What team wouldn't want that?

Sounds like WPG is a no, so the Reaves trade may not happen in that case. If it did, and Columbus has a retention slot, I'd take that.

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20 déc. 2023 à 17 h 30

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Quoting: GeneralLandro

Not even close for Anaheim

What is close? And would Anaheim even consider moving Zegras? With Laine, CBJ would definitely be looking for a hockey trade, and with his cap hit the options are slim.

20 déc. 2023 à 17 h 32

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Even with retention, Roslovic wouldn’t fit under the Pens’ cap. We would have to involve a third team for double retention. With Puustinen emerging at RW, it’s just not necessary or worth it. Also, being that Roslovic is coming off of a fractured ankle, I’d expect a 3rd (+ maybe a small sweetener), not a 2nd. Ya never know though, maybe a team will pay a 2nd, but it shouldn’t be the Pens.

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20 déc. 2023 à 17 h 51

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Quoting: CaseyFlyman

My antipathy for Laine isn't general and personal but specific vis-a-vis Zegras in this trade because No, they don't have the same term remaining on their deals -- Zegras is a RFA with at least 2 years under team control after the current contract expires (if Anaheim so desires) and Laine is a UFA after two seasons, and there's no assurance that he and Anaheim would agree on a deal even if the Ducks wanted to keep him.

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20 déc. 2023 à 18 h 0

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

Ah that's what I misunderstood. Yeah, that's valid, although he extended in Columbus so chances are good he'd extend in Anaheim too.

20 déc. 2023 à 18 h 2

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Quoting: CaseyFlyman

That's fair, so a longer-term option isn't a need. How are you feeling about the D-men that are there already? Genuine curiosity, I don't know that much about Winnipeg.

I know you didn't ask me specifically, but I'll chime in:
- Morrissey is the best one on defense.
- Pionk has bounced back this year and the Jets don't have alot of RHD depth.
- Dillon and DeMelo are the two pending UFAs, but the Jets are comfortably in a playoff spot so I think they will keep them as the "own rental". They may try to re-sign one or both
- Samberg has been playing sheltered minutes on the third pair with Schmidt and if Dillon moves on then I could see the Jets moving him up to 2LD. Schmidt is a servicable bottom pairing guy, but his contract is not efficient.
- Heinola has potential and yesterday Bowness said that if Heinola didn't get injured he was going to be on the opening day lineup.
- Stanley and Chisholm have been the 7/8 guys because they require waivers to go down to the AHL. Stanley was once ahead of Samberg and Heinola on the organizational depth chart so he has stagnated. Chisholm seems promising, but who knows with not may NHL games under his belt.

Edit: they have the kid Salomonssen in Sweden and The Athletic have him being a 4/5 NHL defenseman eventually (and he is right handed)

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20 déc. 2023 à 18 h 8

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Modifié 20 déc. 2023 à 18 h 13

Quoting: CaseyFlyman

That's fair, so a longer-term option isn't a need. How are you feeling about the D-men that are there already? Genuine curiosity, I don't know that much about Winnipeg.

It's just one year really and that's a lot to pay for one year of a guy that isn't really needed. Dylan Samberg likely takes over 2LD next year if they don't bring back Dillon. And there's Declan Chisholm behind Samberg that will be looking for ice time.

If the Jets are spending those kind of assets it needs to be for a top 4 RHD or top sixer, preferably 2C.

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20 déc. 2023 à 18 h 14

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Boone Jenner isn’t worth 2 first round picks and a prospect. He’s one first round pick at most.

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20 déc. 2023 à 18 h 41

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Jets decline
What the realistic cost for Jenner and/or Severson

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