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Créé par: Jay27
Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 16 déc. 2023
Publié: 16 déc. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
The first 2 trades were a 3way trade that CBA proposed in an earlier post so full credit to them.
Transactions
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MTL
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (CAR)
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MTL
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2025 (LAK)
LAK
  1. Pearson, Tanner (1 625 000 $ retained)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $73 833 749 $1 170 000 $4 252 500 $9 666 251 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 8
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 7
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
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2 900 000 $2 900 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 4
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2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
C
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925 000 $925 000 $
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RFA - 1
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
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M-NTC
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4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
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UFA - 4
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 2
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775 000 $775 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
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812 500 $812 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
DG
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UFA - 3
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance275 000 $$275K)
DD
RFA - 1
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890 000 $890 000 $
G
RFA - 2
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867 500 $867 500 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
DG
RFA - 2
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828 333 $828 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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3 362 500 $3 362 500 $
C, AD
RFA - 3
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 3
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762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 1

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16 déc. 2023 à 15 h 34
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Frost >> Broberg, Kovacevic

I think we would be good pick-up and probably deployed better on another team. But he is going to cost at least two Brobergs.
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16 déc. 2023 à 15 h 36
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I like your 3 way trade.

Edmonton get a 3rd pair RD on a very cap friendly contract for this year and next. Montreal get another young top 9 centre who fits their core age. Philly get a high end defensive prospect who is unhappy with his current situation.

I can see this working for all teams.

Personally I don't see Allen having positive value. I think that 3rd round pick is going in the wrong direction.
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16 déc. 2023 à 15 h 39
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I like the Detroit trade
16 déc. 2023 à 15 h 43
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No from Detroit, they aren’t close enough to be acquiring rentals in trades.
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16 déc. 2023 à 15 h 44
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Los Angeles has no need for a left-handed depth forward, even at that price. The Kings have Jaret Anderson-Dolan, Carl Grundstrom, Arthur Kaliyev, Alex Laferriere and Trevor Lewis for those 4 winger spots, and Viktor Arvidsson comes off the LTIR list early next year.
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16 déc. 2023 à 16 h 59
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Why would Wings trade a young prospect for an aging soon to be Free Agent? Makes zero sense as Wings not that close.
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16 déc. 2023 à 17 h 4
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Quoting: mikearky
Why would Wings trade a young prospect for an aging soon to be Free Agent? Makes zero sense as Wings not that close.


He’s cheap, a character player like Stevie-Y likes and with Larkin out can help out in a big way. And aging? He’s younger than half the Red Wings.
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16 déc. 2023 à 17 h 9
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Los Angeles has no need for a left-handed depth forward, even at that price. The Kings have Jaret Anderson-Dolan, Carl Grundstrom, Arthur Kaliyev, Alex Laferriere and Trevor Lewis for those 4 winger spots, and Viktor Arvidsson comes off the LTIR list early next year.


That’s fair. This was more as a favour to Pearson considering he had his best years in LA and that would be in line with Hughes’ past moves. But if it really isn’t a fit then switch LA with another playoff bound team.
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16 déc. 2023 à 17 h 49
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If we're playoff bound then I'll do Monahan
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16 déc. 2023 à 21 h 58
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If we're playoff bound then I'll do Monahan


I wouldn't if it costs us Berggren. Monahan's ppg this season .59 and Berggren's .57 pretty close until you look at their TOI. Monahan is averaging 10 more minutes a game and with the age gap. I much rather have Berggren.
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16 déc. 2023 à 22 h 31
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Quoting: Jfstompers
If we're playoff bound then I'll do Monahan


I'd still extend Monahan again if I were Hughes. The powerplay needs him at the bumper and the team is one of the best faceoff clubs in the league. Cap space and draft picks are so overrated on this site. A mid to late 1st and you'd be lucky to get another Monahan who just turned 29 years old. I'd extend him another 3 years at 5M.

Dvorak most likely is the center that will be moved for pennies.
16 déc. 2023 à 22 h 55
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I wouldn't if it costs us Berggren. Monahan's ppg this season .59 and Berggren's .57 pretty close until you look at their TOI. Monahan is averaging 10 more minutes a game and with the age gap. I much rather have Berggren.


That’s an awfully weird comparison considering Berggren has played 7 games and Monahan has played 30.
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17 déc. 2023 à 0 h 39
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He’s cheap, a character player like Stevie-Y likes and with Larkin out can help out in a big way. And aging? He’s younger than half the Red Wings.


Well this goes to show you do not know what you are talking about, as only 9 players are older than Monhan and 2 are goalies(Lyon and Reimer) 5 are defenseman(Charoit, Maatta, Petry and Ghost) and 2 are forwards(Kane and Perron).
17 déc. 2023 à 0 h 46
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That’s an awfully weird comparison considering Berggren has played 7 games and Monahan has played 30.


Thats why I used ppg I could've used p60 Berggren's p60 is 3.4 and Monahan's is a 1.9. But it wasn't the only reason there is a 6yr age gap that I mentioned. If Monahan continues at his current pace he will finish with about 50 pts and will more than likely the most term he can get and a lot more than $2M. But Honestly I don't think it matters because I don't think they make the playoffs and if they do happen to sneak in to a wild card spot I don't see Yzerman buying. This team isn't a playoff team and it wasn't meant to be playoff team.

This ties in to your comment above about Monahan and Detroit. You said he's a character guy I honesty don't know much about him off the ice. But I can see that Brian Burke is big on character as well and he really likes him. But I'm just not sure where he will fit in and Yzerman was unwilling to give up Berggren in the DeBrincat trade so I don't see him doing so for Monahan. Yzerman wants most of our prospects to develop together. So over the past couple of seasons he has signed a bunch of UFAs to fill roster spots. Mostly because he didn't want to spend a bunch of picks and prospects trading for players. Most of the UFAs signed over the past couple of offseason are little more than place holders.

Petry 36 Will finish out his contract in his home town and retire

Perron 35 His contract is up at the end of the season and he could be traded at the TDL. I wouldn't mind him sticking around Detroit for another season or 2 but he is 35 so it would be a year by year.

Kane 35 I think he gets traded at the TDL If he was content just finishing out his career he would've signed in Buffalo his home town. His son is 3 and that's why I think Kane wants one more cup.

Chariot 32 and Holl 31 We are probably stuck with.

Ghost 30 I'd like Ghost to stay he's been really solid at both ends of the ice but I'm not sure Yzerman will give him the money and term he can get elsewhere.

Maatta 29 Maatta does have a season left but he could be traded he's a solid and inexpensive defensive defenseman.

Larkin is listed week to week and went on to the IR on the 11th he could come back for the game on the 20th or 22nd but I doubt he misses the New Years game. Even if he's out longer I don't think Yzerman gives up futures for a 29yr old Monahan. Using Monahan to replace Larkin is like using a band-aid on a bullet wound. But value wise I think it's a lot more reasonable than other Monahan trades i've seen. he's just not the right fit for Detroit.
17 déc. 2023 à 0 h 54
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Well this goes to show you do not know what you are talking about, as only 9 players are older than Monhan and 2 are goalies(Lyon and Reimer) 5 are defenseman(Charoit, Maatta, Petry and Ghost) and 2 are forwards(Kane and Perron).


It’s called embellishment for effect… you know since Stevie-Y likes to sign older UFAs. Didn’t know you’d take me so literal. But yeah 9 out of 23 isn’t quite half but it is more than a third of the team, so sue me.
17 déc. 2023 à 13 h 12
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I wouldn't if it costs us Berggren. Monahan's ppg this season .59 and Berggren's .57 pretty close until you look at their TOI. Monahan is averaging 10 more minutes a game and with the age gap. I much rather have Berggren.


Oh I like berggren better but the team doesn't seem too. Id just rather use him for a rental who could help now than a 2nd person r 3rd rounder that we won't see for 4 years if ever.
17 déc. 2023 à 22 h 50
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Oh I like berggren better but the team doesn't seem too. Id just rather use him for a rental who could help now than a 2nd person r 3rd rounder that we won't see for 4 years if ever.


Pagnotta's rumor is based on Berggren being called up and being scratched. Now that was at the same time Kane joined the team. So they bring up Berggren up incase Kane can't go but Kane was able to play and Berggren was sent back down.
 
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