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Prices for Habs vets

Créé par: Campabee
Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 16 déc. 2023
Publié: 16 déc. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Trades aren't team need oriented, just value oriented

Obviously not everyone will be moved and most likely only 2-4 will be

These are our starting points, if you want a player you have to meet these minimums
Transactions
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MTL
  1. Hvidston, Connor [Liste de réserve]
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (ANA)
Détails additionnels:
2nd and AHL ceiling prospect not retaining at all
2.
MTL
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (ANA)
Détails additionnels:
Maybe a 4th if we are lucky
3.
MTL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (BOS)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
4.
MTL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (ANA)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (SJS)
ANA
  1. Monahan, Sean (992 500 $ retained)
5.
MTL
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (ANA)
6.
MTL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (ANA)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (ANA)
7.
MTL
  1. Kakko, Kaapo
Détails additionnels:
Young struggling forward with similar upside
8.
MTL
  1. Raanta, Antti
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PHI)
Détails additionnels:
2nd and cap offset or 3rd straight up
9.
MTL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (ARI)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (ARI)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (ARI)
Détails additionnels:
It's gonna cost for a top 4 D man on pace for 50+ points and on agreat contract
10.
MTL
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
11.
MTL
  1. Vlasic, Marc-Édouard
Détails additionnels:
Similar cap or as part of a package for cap purposes only
12.
MTL
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (WPG)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
1683 500 000 $51 720 416 $1 170 000 $3 977 500 $31 779 584 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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812 500 $812 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 7
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
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7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 8
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897 500 $897 500 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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2 900 000 $2 900 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 4
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775 000 $775 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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775 000 $775 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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867 500 $867 500 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
DG
RFA - 2
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950 000 $950 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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890 000 $890 000 $
G
RFA - 2
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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3 362 500 $3 362 500 $
C, AD
RFA - 3
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 3
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 1

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16 déc. 2023 à 12 h 19
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Rangers say no.
Our hole is forward, not defense. We're not moving a forward for a defenseman.
16 déc. 2023 à 12 h 20
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Rangers easily pass lol
16 déc. 2023 à 12 h 22
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Quoting: slater417
Rangers say no.
Our hole is forward, not defense. We're not moving a forward for a defenseman.


Quoting: Rags21
Rangers easily pass lol


Read team description, teams don't matter it was just to show the type of return
16 déc. 2023 à 12 h 24
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Wait a second….

Josh Anderson (who hits) was worth “three 1st round picks” just a few months ago. We were told that Kent could have had Luke Hughes or Simon Nemec plus a 1st round pick for Anderson (who hits). Now he would agree to only a 2nd rounder?

Maybe consider a new GM.
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16 déc. 2023 à 12 h 26
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Quoting: Campabee
Read team description, teams don't matter it was just to show the type of return


Then your better comparison would probably be Wahlstrom and not kakko
16 déc. 2023 à 12 h 29
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rangers pass.
16 déc. 2023 à 12 h 31
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Then your better comparison would probably be Wahlstrom and not kakko


I only used Kakko cause he is struggling and flirting with bust territory
16 déc. 2023 à 12 h 33
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Wait a second….

Josh Anderson (who hits) was worth “three 1st round picks” just a few months ago. We were told that Kent could have had Luke Hughes or Simon Nemec plus a 1st round pick for Anderson (who hits). Now he would agree to only a 2nd rounder?

Maybe consider a new GM.


Values change year to year based on many factors, however I don't think anyone ever said 3 1st round picks lol, a 1st and good prospect sure but never 3 1sts
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16 déc. 2023 à 12 h 37
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I only used Kakko cause he is struggling and flirting with bust territory


If putting up 40 points and above average defense is labeled as a bust, then man there’s a lot of bust players still playing in the nhl lol
16 déc. 2023 à 12 h 37
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You’d be lucky to get positive value for any of Anderson, Armia, Dvorak, or Savard. Your asking prices for them are ridiculous
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16 déc. 2023 à 12 h 38
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I only used Kakko cause he is struggling and flirting with bust territory


Kakko is currently injured. We just went through this with laf.
Kakko put up 40 points at mostly even strenght last season.
Thats about a 55-60 point season with PP points.
He's also a very very good 2 way defender.
Kakko is easily a top 6 player, and looked like a top line player at the begining of the season.
I appreciate that the Hab fans think the rangers are their farm system. But we're not. Move off the rangers.
16 déc. 2023 à 12 h 49
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So it will be a quiet deadline for the Habs
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16 déc. 2023 à 13 h 0
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Holy cow. The delusion is just off the charts for this one here.
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16 déc. 2023 à 13 h 6
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Quoting: Campabee
Values change year to year based on many factors, however I don't think anyone ever said 3 1st round picks lol, a 1st and good prospect sure but never 3 1sts


On ACGM, there were some Habs fans suggesting Kent could get three 1sts. Just the offers to NJD alone were mind-boggling.
16 déc. 2023 à 13 h 20
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If putting up 40 points and above average defense is labeled as a bust, then man there’s a lot of bust players still playing in the nhl lol


One 40 point season and three >20 point season and on pace for a fourth for a former 2nd ova pick is most definitely flirting with bust territory, don't believe that look at Galchenyuk and Sherbek
16 déc. 2023 à 13 h 23
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Quoting: Campabee
One 40 point season and three >20 point season and on pace for a fourth for a former 2nd ova pick is most definitely flirting with bust territory, don't believe that look at Galchenyuk and Sherbek


There’s a difference between being a bust and not reaching 2nd overall potential

He’s still very much an NHLer at age 22, which is still very young. Remember that guy Tage Thompson who did absolutely nothing until a year or 2 ago? Lol
16 déc. 2023 à 13 h 33
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There’s a difference between being a bust and not reaching 2nd overall potential

He’s still very much an NHLer at age 22, which is still very young. Remember that guy Tage Thompson who did absolutely nothing until a year or 2 ago? Lol


I said flirting with, not achieved yet
16 déc. 2023 à 13 h 36
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I said flirting with, not achieved yet


Worst case scenario, he’s a 3rd line defensive forward who has some offensive upside

Not every single high drafted forward turns out to be crosby, Hughes, Mcdavid, Barkov, Matthews, etc..
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16 déc. 2023 à 14 h 11
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Kakko: Dach or Newhook price
Anderson, Armia, Dvorak: Cap dump
Allen without retention: Cap dump
Savard: very little value imo
Matheson is a tier below the Chychrun value imo so 1st+3rd
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16 déc. 2023 à 23 h 30
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Overvaluing your bad contracts and cap dumps.
16 déc. 2023 à 23 h 50
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Wait a second….

Josh Anderson (who hits) was worth “three 1st round picks” just a few months ago. We were told that Kent could have had Luke Hughes or Simon Nemec plus a 1st round pick for Anderson (who hits). Now he would agree to only a 2nd rounder?

Maybe consider a new GM.


This is just lame ad nauseam rhetoric posted over and over. If he ever does get traded I'd say not to log in again. The return will be more than this ACGM
17 déc. 2023 à 19 h 46
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Quoting: Andy_Dick
This is just lame ad nauseam rhetoric posted over and over. If he ever does get traded I'd say not to log in again. The return will be more than this ACGM


There were a few months where Habs fans were convinced NJD were offering huge packages and Kent was declining them (Hughes, Nemec, multiple 1sts…). Lebrun later said that Devils never even called about Anderson.

(And no one is paying positive value for Anderson)
 
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