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LARSSON is AVAILABLE

Équipe: 2023-24 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 10 déc. 2023
Publié: 10 déc. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
SEA
  1. McDonough, Aidan
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
2.
VAN
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2024 (ARI)
3.
VAN
  1. Eriksson Ek, Joel (2 500 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
If the wild sell
MIN
  1. Räty, Aatu
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (VAN)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2026 (VAN)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $83 005 417 $850 000 $0 $494 583 $
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
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UFA - 3
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7 350 000 $7 350 000 $
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
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UFA - 2
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
C, AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 7
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6 650 000 $6 650 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
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825 000 $825 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
C
UFA - 6
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4 950 000 $4 950 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
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1 600 000 $1 600 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
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1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
AD, C, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
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4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Kraken de Seattle
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 3
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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775 000 $775 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
775 000 $775 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
775 000 $775 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
883 750 $883 750 $
C
RFA - 1

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10 déc. 2023 à 5 h 30
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The wild are not going to retain 2,500,000 for 6 years man, his contract is good why would they even retain. Doubt Arizona does this trade tbh and the Seattle trade is possible but we would probably have to pay a premium due to us being divisional rivals.
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10 déc. 2023 à 7 h 58
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Add a touch more and get larsson half retained
10 déc. 2023 à 9 h 13
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The wild are not going to retain 2,500,000 for 6 years man, his contract is good why would they even retain. Doubt Arizona does this trade tbh and the Seattle trade is possible but we would probably have to pay a premium due to us being divisional rivals.


My guess is that they would want a hockey trade too. Supposedly, they need help on offense so maybe Kuzmenko for Larsson.
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10 déc. 2023 à 11 h 53
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1) Minnesota isn't retaining. His contract is already a steal. And no one ever retains for longer than 2 years on a moved contract.

Furthermore, even if the team was to consider selling. JEE is NOT a piece that would ever be moved. He's still young and a central pillar of their core.

2) That isn't even close to sufficient value for JEE, and that's before retention. Which would cost more.

3) The ONLY player Minnesota considers moving JEE for is EP40. It would be unreasonable and unrealistic, but EP40 would have to be coming back Minnesota's way before they would willingly move JEE.
10 déc. 2023 à 12 h 40
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1) Minnesota isn't retaining. His contract is already a steal. And no one ever retains for longer than 2 years on a moved contract.

Furthermore, even if the team was to consider selling. JEE is NOT a piece that would ever be moved. He's still young and a central pillar of their core.

2) That isn't even close to sufficient value for JEE, and that's before retention. Which would cost more.

3) The ONLY player Minnesota considers moving JEE for is EP40. It would be unreasonable and unrealistic, but EP40 would have to be coming back Minnesota's way before they would willingly move JEE.


That's a laugh. JEE is not Matthew Tkachuk. He's not earning Huberdeau + Weegar + 1st. He's not Jack Eichel, he's not earning Tuch + Krebs + 1st.

JEE has scored more than 50 points once in his career, he's on pace to do it again. He has finished Top-10 in Selke voting, but has never won. His closest comparison that has been traded recently is Ryan O'Rielly, who was signed to a long-term deal.

O'Rielly earned Buffalo 1st + 2nd + Thompson (struggling prospect) + Sobotka (bottom-sixer) + Berglund (long-term cap dump)

You could reasonably ask for a 1st + struggling prospect + roster player, more if a team requires you to take a cap dump back.

Comparable to the O'Rielly trade, Vancouver could offer 1st + Podkolzin + Blueger, or 1st + 2nd + Podkolzin + Garland.
10 déc. 2023 à 13 h 57
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That's a laugh. JEE is not Matthew Tkachuk. He's not earning Huberdeau + Weegar + 1st. He's not Jack Eichel, he's not earning Tuch + Krebs + 1st.

JEE has scored more than 50 points once in his career, he's on pace to do it again. He has finished Top-10 in Selke voting, but has never won. His closest comparison that has been traded recently is Ryan O'Rielly, who was signed to a long-term deal.

O'Rielly earned Buffalo 1st + 2nd + Thompson (struggling prospect) + Sobotka (bottom-sixer) + Berglund (long-term cap dump)

You could reasonably ask for a 1st + struggling prospect + roster player, more if a team requires you to take a cap dump back.

Comparable to the O'Rielly trade, Vancouver could offer 1st + Podkolzin + Blueger, or 1st + 2nd + Podkolzin + Garland.


His value was literally pegged to be around a PLD level of return by the Athletic. Or Elias Lindholm.

PLD is making $7M+ from LA. Lindholm is asking $9M for his next contract.

JEE is making $5.25M AAV for the next 6 years. He currently has 13 goals, 7 assists, for 20 points in 26 games played. That's a .80 PPG pace. He's on pace for well over 70 points this season, and he had 65 last season, so he's not just on pace to be over 50 points again? His numbers are improving every year.

So to summarize, he's a Selke caliber 2nd line center who has improved every year he's been in the league. On a steal of a contract. That's a lot of value, value that's increased by his contract being so cheap for so long. There's not a better contract for a top-six center in the league.

You think that doesn't cost in today's market?

And to be blunt it doesn't matter what his value is. It's what's his value to Minnesota. Which is immeasurable.

1) He's Minnesota's best center. He's still young, on a stupidly great contract, and arguably their most important player after Kaprizov.

It's going to take a stupidly asinine levels of overpay to pry him out of Minnesota.

2) Selke voting is extremely biased to East Coast players. Eriksson-Ek hasn't won yet primarily because Bergeron was still playing. Now that he's retired, Eriksson-Ek has a realistic and legitimate chance to win.

Not that I expect him too, given the severe East Coast bias for that award. If he played on the East Coast, he'd be a no-brainer lock for the award.

But Eriksson-Ek has been arguably the best shutdown center in the league after Bergeron by analytics for the past few years.
10 déc. 2023 à 14 h 53
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His value was literally pegged to be around a PLD level of return by the Athletic. Or Elias Lindholm.

PLD is making $7M+ from LA. Lindholm is asking $9M for his next contract.

JEE is making $5.25M AAV for the next 6 years. He currently has 13 goals, 7 assists, for 20 points in 26 games played. That's a .80 PPG pace. He's on pace for well over 70 points this season, and he had 65 last season, so he's not just on pace to be over 50 points again? His numbers are improving every year.

So to summarize, he's a Selke caliber 2nd line center who has improved every year he's been in the league. On a steal of a contract. That's a lot of value, value that's increased by his contract being so cheap for so long. There's not a better contract for a top-six center in the league.

You think that doesn't cost in today's market?

And to be blunt it doesn't matter what his value is. It's what's his value to Minnesota. Which is immeasurable.

1) He's Minnesota's best center. He's still young, on a stupidly great contract, and arguably their most important player after Kaprizov.

It's going to take a stupidly asinine levels of overpay to pry him out of Minnesota.

2) Selke voting is extremely biased to East Coast players. Eriksson-Ek hasn't won yet primarily because Bergeron was still playing. Now that he's retired, Eriksson-Ek has a realistic and legitimate chance to win.

Not that I expect him too, given the severe East Coast bias for that award. If he played on the East Coast, he'd be a no-brainer lock for the award.

But Eriksson-Ek has been arguably the best shutdown center in the league after Bergeron by analytics for the past few years.


If JEE value to Minnesota is immeasurable to Minnesota, then they should keep him. League market value has him at the same price as ROR/PLD; 1st + prospect + 2nd + cap dump/roster player.

PLD went for Vilardi (1st) + 2nd + Kupari (prospect) + Iafallo (roster player)

ROR in 2018 was a near identical player to JEE. Perennial Selke nominee, signed for 5 seasons, reasonable cap hit for what ROR brought, the difference is ROR was a 1st line-center as opposed to JEE's 2nd line.

If JEE is moved, you can expect market value for him. If the Wild don't believe that 1st + prospect + roster player is worth it, then that's what they decide.
 
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