Trade The Core Four And Jumpstart A Rebuild

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Créé par: KingExLeafs

Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto

Date de création initiale: 5 déc. 2023

Publié: 5 déc. 2023

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

If you still think a team without a defense, a goalie and a coach can win a Stanley Cup, give your head a shake. This team was constructed badly. Awful contracts were handed out, gritty forecheckers like Hyman, Kadri, and Moore were moved on from and replaced with soft skilled guys who disappear in the playoffs every year. Imagine a third line of Hyman - Kadri - Moore. Leafs could have had that if they were managed better all these years.

Shanahan needs to go. He should have left with Dubas in the summer. And he needs to take Treliving and Keefe with him.

Enough is enough with this "core four" foolishness. Let's hope the Leafs actually start to build a real hockey team, from the net out. The new team should have an elite goalie in net, stars on the defense, and grit up front. The only players on the current roster I'd keep long-term are Knies, Cowan, and Rielly. Make Rielly the new captain, he should be a Leaf for life.

Transactions

TOR

Garland, Conor
Myers, Tyler
Willander, Tom [Liste de réserve]
Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (VAN)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2026 (VAN)

VAN

McCabe, Jake
Tavares, John (3 000 000 $ retained)

Détails additionnels:

Miller moves to the wing, or to match up against the Kings in the playoffs, JT is stapled to the 3rd line. If the Canucks are serious about winning a cup, and I think they have the defense, coach, and goalie to do it, they need to bring in a legitimate center to compete with L.A. and Vegas.

TOR

O'Connor, Logan
Olausson, Oskar
Tatar, Tomas
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (COL)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2026 (COL)

Détails additionnels:

Tatar and O'Connor are cap filler. The trade is a 1st and a prospect plus a 3rd for the retention.

COL

Nylander, William (3 450 000 $ retained)

TOR

Mantha, Anthony
McMichael, Connor
Oshie, T.J.
Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (WSH)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (WSH)

WSH

Marner, Mitchell

Détails additionnels:

Marner waives to help Ovi beat the Gretzky record and then signs for a true contender once his current deal is up.

TOR

Simashev, Dmitri [Liste de réserve]
Söderström, Victor
Voracek, Jakub
Zucker, Jason
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (ARI)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (ARI)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (TOR)

ARI

Matthews, Auston

Détails additionnels:

Now that Arizona is competitive and in a playoff spot they can dream bigger and really shake up the hockey universe by bringing home their very own.

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

John Tavares: 3 000 000 $ (27.27%)
William Nylander: 3 450 000 $ (49.55%)

Enfoui

Ryan Reaves: 200 000 $ (1 350 000 $)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2024
2025
2026

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	83 500 000 $	71 065 000 $	0 $	0 $	12 435 000 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Bertuzzi, Tyler 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AG, AD NMC UFA - 1	Domi, Max 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ C, AD M-NTC UFA - 1	Garland, Conor 4 950 000 $4 950 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 3
Knies, Matthew 925 000 $925 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 2	McMichael, Connor 863 333 $863 333 $ AG, C RFA - 1	O'Connor, Logan 1 050 000 $1 050 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2
Robertson, Nicholas 796 667 $796 667 $ AG, AD RFA - 1	Järnkrok, Calle 2 100 000 $2 100 000 $ AD, C, AG M-NTC UFA - 3	Olausson, Oskar 863 333 $863 333 $ AD RFA - 3
Tatar, Tomas 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Kämpf, David 2 400 000 $2 400 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 4	Mantha, Anthony 2 850 000 $2 850 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Rielly, Morgan 7 500 000 $7 500 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 7	Brodie, TJ 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG/DD M-NTC UFA - 1	Woll, Joseph 766 667 $766 667 $ G RFA - 2
Giordano, Mark 800 000 $800 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Liljegren, Timothy 1 400 000 $1 400 000 $ DD RFA - 1	Samsonov, Ilya 3 550 000 $3 550 000 $ G UFA - 1
Lagesson, William 775 000 $775 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Myers, Tyler 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Zucker, Jason 5 300 000 $5 300 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1		Muzzin, Jake 5 625 000 $5 625 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 1
Oshie, T.J. 5 750 000 $5 750 000 $ AD M-NTC UFA - 2		Murray, Matt 4 687 500 $4 687 500 $ G M-NTC UFA - 1
Gregor, Noah 775 000 $775 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 1		Klingberg, John 4 150 000 $4 150 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 1
		Voracek, Jakub 8 250 000 $8 250 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1

5 déc. 2023 à 14 h 6

Logicalicesports

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This is one of the deals I could see the Capitals actually doing which sucks because McMichael is one of the only positives lights on this team outside of Protas

5 déc. 2023 à 14 h 9

mv21227

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The only way the Canucks consider moving Willander is if they’re getting a bonafide top 4 RHD that fits the age of our core. Leafs don’t have that to offer

westleysnipez a aimé ceci.

5 déc. 2023 à 14 h 10

KingExLeafs

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Quoting: mv21227

The only way the Canucks consider moving Willander is if they’re getting a bonafide top 4 RHD that fits the age of our core. Leafs don’t have that to offer

Liljegren

5 déc. 2023 à 14 h 11

All_Knowing

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Quoting: Logicalicesports

This is one of the deals I could see the Capitals actually doing which sucks because McMichael is one of the only positives lights on this team outside of Protas

I disagree actually. Caps will- make a big pursuit for Nylander in offseason and keep assets. Plus, Oshie will most likely go to LTIR at the end of the season

5 déc. 2023 à 14 h 12

palhal

LongtimeLeafsufferer

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Leafs certainly aren't getting much for Marner, except bad cap in return. Not getting much for Matthews who is signed for 4.5m years.
Tavares doesn't waive.

5 déc. 2023 à 14 h 13

mv21227

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Quoting: KingExLeafs

Liljegren

I like Liljegren but he doesn’t fit that description. I’m talking about a guy like a Rasmus Andersson or Noah Dobson (not saying those two are likely to be traded, but a player like that)

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5 déc. 2023 à 14 h 15

KingExLeafs

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Quoting: palhal

Leafs certainly aren't getting much for Marner, except bad cap in return. Not getting much for Matthews who is signed for 4.5m years.
Tavares doesn't waive.

In the Matthews deal Leafs are getting the equivalent of 4 1sts. In the Marner deal, which only has 1 year and a half left, plus he's overpaid by 2 million, Leafs get back two good picks and a good young player.

That's fair.

5 déc. 2023 à 14 h 28

Marked_Difference

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The AZ trade is fascinating. The trade value is pretty spot on for Matthews, but Simashev is a difficult add. But and Simashev were drafted together to allow for the Russian transition, in retrospect it was a brilliant move. Both players are NHL caliber, reasonable comps Slavin and a bigger stronger faster Corey Perry (terrifying thought, I know). They should remain as a package. Maybe swap out Simashev for Geekie? That kid is going to be a monster with proper development, Nic Lindstrom kind of potential.

KingExLeafs a aimé ceci.

5 déc. 2023 à 14 h 44

swissmontana

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This is the first kinda interesting Nylander-to-COL in a minute. They have no chance to re-sign him, it's a rental, but that's a goooood rental.

I probably wouldn't do it but it's bc i like LoC too much

5 déc. 2023 à 14 h 49

#10

SharkTank

Tank it baby

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Never happen. Leafs are too in love with their shiny toys.

5 déc. 2023 à 15 h 0

#11

KingExLeafs

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Quoting: SharkTank

Never happen. Leafs are too in love with their shiny toys.

Unfortunately true

5 déc. 2023 à 15 h 26

#12

TheAlien

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No fu*kin way the Canucks are trading Willander for that. Like someone has said the only way they trade him is for a bonafide young top4 RD. The keyword there is bonafide which means Lilijegren doesn't count either.

5 déc. 2023 à 15 h 42

#13

BeautifulIdiot

This team kills me

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Where is the value that the Canucks are getting back

5 déc. 2023 à 15 h 48

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KingExLeafs

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Quoting: BeautifulIdiot

Where is the value that the Canucks are getting back

They get back a 1C at 8 million for 2 playoff runs and a top 4 defenceman at 2 million for 2 more years. They also get rid of the horrible Myers and Garland contracts without having to pay any picks or adding any sweeteners.

This is a deal that favours the Canucks.

5 déc. 2023 à 16 h 30

#15

mv21227

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Quoting: KingExLeafs

Tavares would be the 3rd best C on the Canucks

Myers contract ends after this season and Garland’s isn’t that bad. No need to get out of either contract

5 déc. 2023 à 17 h 44

#16

TJTwolf

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Oh God it's back! Nylander is a rental for the Avs and while the value is at least reasonable the Avs can't afford to rent him.

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