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Just Defense

Créé par: CoryTheGreat
Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 5 déc. 2023
Publié: 5 déc. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Tanev, Christopher (2 250 000 $ retained)
CGY
  1. Timmins, Conor
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
  4. Choix de 7e ronde en 2024 (OTT)
2.
CBJ
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
  2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
3.
TOR
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2026 (MIN)
  2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2026 (MIN)
MIN
  1. Reaves, Ryan
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2025 (CHI)
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He never gets any ice time so why is he even here still?
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2183 500 000 $79 406 450 $0 $0 $4 093 550 $
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 1
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11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
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NMC
UFA - 1
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6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
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NMC
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $
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RFA - 2
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11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 2
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10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 2
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796 667 $796 667 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AD, C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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775 000 $775 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
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M-NTC
UFA - 4
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762 500 $762 500 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 7
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-1 125 000 $-1 125 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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766 667 $766 667 $
G
RFA - 2
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
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3 550 000 $3 550 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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800 000 $800 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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4 687 500 $4 687 500 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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4 150 000 $4 150 000 $
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M-NTC
UFA - 1

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5 déc. 2023 à 1 h 50
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Columbus says deal.
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5 déc. 2023 à 2 h 14
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Peeke is a cap dump at this point. He can't even crack Columbus D. How is he meant to crack the Leafs D and make an impact?

No interest in spending the 1st round pick on a 34 year old, pending UFA.
5 déc. 2023 à 2 h 18
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You could have Peeke for just a 3rd. You could have Peeke for a 4th. Honestly, you could have Peeke for a 5th or 6th if you're not asking Columbus to retain.

I don't think you'll get anyone to take Reaves at near-even value, just because of the term on that deal. Would probably need to add a bit more.

I'd think that certainly gets you Tanev, with retention.
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5 déc. 2023 à 5 h 56
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You could have Peeke for just a 3rd. You could have Peeke for a 4th. Honestly, you could have Peeke for a 5th or 6th if you're not asking Columbus to retain.

I don't think you'll get anyone to take Reaves at near-even value, just because of the term on that deal. Would probably need to add a bit more.

I'd think that certainly gets you Tanev, with retention.


Peeke won't get a return. 2+ million healthy scratch on a bad team? He's worthless. May cost you to move him.
5 déc. 2023 à 7 h 41
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Peeke won't get a return. 2+ million healthy scratch on a bad team? He's worthless. May cost you to move him.


I don't think we pay to move him. If Jarmo wanted he would waive him for Cleveland and someone would take a flyer claiming him. He is what he is and isn't what he isn't. He's a hard working shot blocker who would do well with a speedier partner.
5 déc. 2023 à 8 h 4
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I don't think we pay to move him. If Jarmo wanted he would waive him for Cleveland and someone would take a flyer claiming him. He is what he is and isn't what he isn't. He's a hard working shot blocker who would do well with a speedier partner.


If he was a league min contract someone would take a flyer at 2+? He's not an asset, he's an anchor
5 déc. 2023 à 8 h 18
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If he was a league min contract someone would take a flyer at 2+? He's not an asset, he's an anchor


Agree to disagree.
5 déc. 2023 à 10 h 29
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If the Wild wanted Reaves at his current salary, they'd have signed him before July 1st. Pass.
5 déc. 2023 à 10 h 37
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If he was a league min contract someone would take a flyer at 2+? He's not an asset, he's an anchor


Its funny cause this site is full of TOR fans trying to trade for him. Weird that they all want this anchor
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Its funny cause this site is full of TOR fans trying to trade for him. Weird that they all want this anchor


I absolutely can't understand it? A few of them are goons who only see hits, everything else is soft to them and they don't understand hockey. Others I think just don't know anything beyond what people comment on here. And Columbus fans have been giving the used car salesman pitch for Peeke for 2 years now. He's not a player.
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I absolutely can't understand it? A few of them are goons who only see hits, everything else is soft to them and they don't understand hockey. Others I think just don't know anything beyond what people comment on here. And Columbus fans have been giving the used car salesman pitch for Peeke for 2 years now. He's not a player.


hes a solid 3RD option for most teams. Dudes eats shots and can play that role. He only breaks down when he is leaned on too much, he is not a 3RD that you want moving up your lineup. If a team cements him to the 3RD spot, they will be happy with him. If he wouldnt be claimed on waivers, hed probably already have been waived. The fact that we havent means we can probably get some return for him, but probably alot less than us jackets fans want. People who think he is worthless or would need to pay to dump is just as bad as the people who think he will get a good return, both are uninformed. He is probably worth a 5th and more if it requires retained salary.
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hes a solid 3RD option for most teams. Dudes eats shots and can play that role. He only breaks down when he is leaned on too much, he is not a 3RD that you want moving up your lineup. If a team cements him to the 3RD spot, they will be happy with him. If he wouldnt be claimed on waivers, hed probably already have been waived. The fact that we havent means we can probably get some return for him, but probably alot less than us jackets fans want. People who think he is worthless or would need to pay to dump is just as bad as the people who think he will get a good return, both are uninformed. He is probably worth a 5th and more if it requires retained salary.


The dude never has the puck, gets hemmed into his zone and shots hit him. He's not at all good. If he was, he'd be playing bigger minutes on a non playoff team not sitting in the press box while guys that are not good (Gudbranson) are playing over him. This is the fallacy of this site, if you aren't good enough to help a bad team become better or in the case of Peeke, not even make a bad team, you aren't magically awesome on any other team. Peeke isn't playing because he's not very good.
5 déc. 2023 à 15 h 1
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The dude never has the puck, gets hemmed into his zone and shots hit him. He's not at all good. If he was, he'd be playing bigger minutes on a non playoff team not sitting in the press box while guys that are not good (Gudbranson) are playing over him. This is the fallacy of this site, if you aren't good enough to help a bad team become better or in the case of Peeke, not even make a bad team, you aren't magically awesome on any other team. Peeke isn't playing because he's not very good.


Like i said, uninformed. You sound like you dont know much about the jackets or peeke, but you are free to have you own opinion of him
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Like i said, uninformed. You sound like you dont know much about the jackets or peeke, but you are free to have you own opinion of him


I have looked into him for two seasons now. Mainly because what everyone seems to say doesn't at all match the results. From an analytical point of view, he's brutal and the results matched that. And this season he's been once again terrible in the lineup (4 games) and the advance stats and results follow suit. So how is this ill informed? I'd love to see anything that tells a different story beyond "he eats shots" from Columbus fans who desperately hope to recoup an asset.
5 déc. 2023 à 15 h 10
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I have looked into him for two seasons now. Mainly because what everyone seems to say doesn't at all match the results. From an analytical point of view, he's brutal and the results matched that. And this season he's been once again terrible in the lineup (4 games) and the advance stats and results follow suit. So how is this ill informed? I'd love to see anything that tells a different story beyond "he eats shots" from Columbus fans who desperately hope to recoup an asset.


Wow 2 whole season, gee whiz! Id suggest you actually watch him play rather than leaning on analytics. Maybe look into context, where was he playing in the lineup and why. There is so much more to a player than what analytics can show. Thats probably why you are still uninformed and sounds like jackets fans have tried to educate you in the past, but you want to pretend you know better. To each their own
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Wow 2 whole season, gee whiz! Id suggest you actually watch him play rather than leaning on analytics. Maybe look into context, where was he playing in the lineup and why. There is so much more to a player than what analytics can show. Thats probably why you are still uninformed and sounds like jackets fans have tried to educate you in the past, but you want to pretend you know better. To each their own


The guy can't make it into the lineup, when he has he gets scored on a bunch, never has the puck, sometimes gets hit with the puck and is "tough". He's Simon Benoit, of he doesn't hurt you when he plays that's a huge plus but if he's in your lineup, you are not going to go far.
6 déc. 2023 à 8 h 55
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The guy can't make it into the lineup, when he has he gets scored on a bunch, never has the puck, sometimes gets hit with the puck and is "tough". He's Simon Benoit, of he doesn't hurt you when he plays that's a huge plus but if he's in your lineup, you are not going to go far.


so we are back to uninformed, we've gone full circle
6 déc. 2023 à 10 h 22
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so we are back to uninformed, we've gone full circle


You have not provided anything to support your position sir. Which begs the question, what information are you using to become informed? Because advance stats show him as not at all good. Results? Also very bad. So what information are you bringing to the table other than using the word uninformed over and over. I'd be happy to change my tune of there was any, and I mean any tangible evidence to suggest Peeke is anything but a 7/8th defenceman.
 
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