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Righting the ship

Créé par: whatsmyageagain281
Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 30 nov. 2023
Publié: 30 nov. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Accurate/Prorated
LTIR activée: Oui
Journées à la saison: 192
Journées restantes: 140
Saison restante: 73%
Masse salariale projetée avant les jours restants Info-bulle : 96 596 723 $
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Zadorov, Nikita (1 875 000 $ retained)
CGY
  1. Abruzzese, Nick
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (TOR)
2.
TOR
  1. Peeke, Andrew
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (CBJ)
  3. Choix de 6e ronde en 2025 (CBJ)
3.
TOR
  1. Dubé, Dillon
  2. Tanev, Christopher (2 250 000 $ retained)
  3. Choix de 7e ronde en 2025 (CGY)
CGY
  1. Giordano, Mark
  2. Hirvonen, Roni
  3. Steeves, Alex
  4. Timmins, Conor
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
  6. Choix de 5e ronde en 2025 (TOR)
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $79 906 450 $0 $0 $3 593 550 $
Masse salariale proratée

Formation

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Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
925 000 $674 479 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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11 640 250 $8 487 682 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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10 903 000 $7 950 104 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 500 000 $4 010 417 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 000 000 $8 020 833 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
6 962 366 $5 076 725 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
796 667 $580 903 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
3 000 000 $2 187 500 $
C, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 100 000 $1 531 250 $
AD, C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
775 000 $565 104 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 400 000 $1 750 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Flames de Calgary
2 300 000 $1 677 083 $
AG, AD, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
762 500 $555 990 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 350 000 $984 375 $
AD
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
7 500 000 $5 468 750 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Flames de Calgary
-1 125 000 $-820 313 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
3 550 000 $2 588 542 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 875 000 $1 367 188 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 400 000 $1 020 833 $
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
766 667 $559 028 $
G
RFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 000 000 $1 458 333 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
2 750 000 $2 005 208 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
775 000 $565 104 $
DG
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 625 000 $4 101 563 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
4 687 500 $3 417 969 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
4 150 000 $3 026 042 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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30 nov. 2023 à 16 h 24
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Brodie > Peeke

Columbus doesn't have a spot for Brodie either, but I'm not sure why Toronto--who does need RD--does this.
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30 nov. 2023 à 16 h 30
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You really think Brodie would have CBJ on his trade list?
Flames say no. But really how does this "right the ship"? Trading three Dmen for two hurts the Leafs. Never mind the giving up futures for no reason.
30 nov. 2023 à 16 h 30
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Brodie > Peeke

Columbus doesn't have a spot for Brodie either, but I'm not sure why Toronto--who does need RD--does this.


Jackets should make this trade and then flip Brodie half retained at the deadline
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30 nov. 2023 à 16 h 53
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Brodie > Peeke

Columbus doesn't have a spot for Brodie either, but I'm not sure why Toronto--who does need RD--does this.


Yes, I agree, Brodie is better than Peeke. That's why the Leafs get picks back in the deal and Peeke is right-handed. I truly don't know what you argument was intended to be here lol
30 nov. 2023 à 16 h 56
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Leafs decline blue jackets and leafs decline to add gio to the flames trade and acquire dube
30 nov. 2023 à 16 h 59
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You really think Brodie would have CBJ on his trade list?
Flames say no. But really how does this "right the ship"? Trading three Dmen for two hurts the Leafs. Never mind the giving up futures for no reason.


I don't know who is on his no-trade list, do you? Did you think Gaudreau would do to CBJ? Because I sure didn't. We can't assume we know everything that's unknown. We also can't even assume whoever Brodie were traded to would even keep him, a lot can happen.

Your math is also a little off there, my trades have 3 D outgoing and 3 D incoming. It's not for nothing if you watch any of the Leafs games or think critically for 2 seconds. Leafs don't have a single D man outside of mayyyyyybe McCabe that is moving anyone from the front of the net, nevermind being a physical presence. Zadorov addresses that and provides some much needed size and toughness the Leafs need to not get absolutely bullied in the playoffs. Tanev we know his upside and he's a great fit for the Leafs. I'm not sure you understand how trades or retention work if you assess this as "giving up futures for no reason". Teams aren't in the habit of just doing their buddies a solid by retaining salary to fit under the cap so obvious we need to pay a price for it. Surely this should be common knowledge at this point - especially if you're a "long time Leafs sufferer" you should know this practise.
30 nov. 2023 à 17 h 0
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Quoting: SomeonesOffended
Leafs decline blue jackets and leafs decline to add gio to the flames trade and acquire dube


Good grief man lol no they don't. You cannot honestly look at this Leafs d core post trades and say for 1 second it's worse. It's the cost of doing business. You really think Mark f'n Giordano is the straw that breaks the camels back on a deal like this? Come on.
30 nov. 2023 à 17 h 4
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Good grief man lol no they don't. You cannot honestly look at this Leafs d core post trades and say for 1 second it's worse. It's the cost of doing business. You really think Mark f'n Giordano is the straw that breaks the camels back on a deal like this? Come on.


Yes because he retires a leaf after this year lol and yes the defence is better but that’s because you’ve added 3 defenders but it would be so much better if you didn’t subtract Brodie
30 nov. 2023 à 17 h 13
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I don't know who is on his no-trade list, do you? Did you think Gaudreau would do to CBJ? Because I sure didn't. We can't assume we know everything that's unknown. We also can't even assume whoever Brodie were traded to would even keep him, a lot can happen.

Your math is also a little off there, my trades have 3 D outgoing and 3 D incoming. It's not for nothing if you watch any of the Leafs games or think critically for 2 seconds. Leafs don't have a single D man outside of mayyyyyybe McCabe that is moving anyone from the front of the net, nevermind being a physical presence. Zadorov addresses that and provides some much needed size and toughness the Leafs need to not get absolutely bullied in the playoffs. Tanev we know his upside and he's a great fit for the Leafs. I'm not sure you understand how trades or retention work if you assess this as "giving up futures for no reason". Teams aren't in the habit of just doing their buddies a solid by retaining salary to fit under the cap so obvious we need to pay a price for it. Surely this should be common knowledge at this point - especially if you're a "long time Leafs sufferer" you should know this practise.


Sorry, to expect Brodie who may be on last year in the NHL would agree to a trade to last place team, instead of playing for a contender defies all logic. So many Leafs fans think getting bottom end Dmen from non playoff teams though they may be "big" in this this Peeke is a solution. The fourth and fifth Dmen on the non playoff Flames is the answer Better Dmen may be the answer.
Gotta think Zaradov is worth more in trade. But that's a massive overpay for Tanev.
But geez, it's always the same story by so many. Not one criticism of the poor value play by Marner, Matthews, Bertuzzi and Tavares this season has been bigger problem for the Leafs, but surely this should be common knowledge at this point for anyone who watched Leaf games this season.
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30 nov. 2023 à 17 h 49
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Yes, I agree, Brodie is better than Peeke. That's why the Leafs get picks back in the deal and Peeke is right-handed. I truly don't know what you argument was intended to be here lol


Moving out a better RD for a worse one doesn't make any sense.
30 nov. 2023 à 18 h 11
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Sorry, to expect Brodie who may be on last year in the NHL would agree to a trade to last place team, instead of playing for a contender defies all logic. So many Leafs fans think getting bottom end Dmen from non playoff teams though they may be "big" in this this Peeke is a solution. The fourth and fifth Dmen on the non playoff Flames is the answer Better Dmen may be the answer.
Gotta think Zaradov is worth more in trade. But that's a massive overpay for Tanev.
But geez, it's always the same story by so many. Not one criticism of the poor value play by Marner, Matthews, Bertuzzi and Tavares this season has been bigger problem for the Leafs, but surely this should be common knowledge at this point for anyone who watched Leaf games this season.


Why would it be Brodie's last year in the NHL? He's 33 years old, that doesn't make sense lol

This is an AGM post, not a whine and complain about our forwards production post. Our D is the biggest area of need and I'm sure you would agree, even if we also need more production from our forwards. The two can exist at the same time. So I really don't understand how that comment adds anything to this conversation.
30 nov. 2023 à 18 h 11
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Moving out a better RD for a worse one doesn't make any sense.


It does when it provides cap flexibility to address other areas of need like this trade does. Without saving the money on Brodie taking a lesser D man the other trades that make the Leafs D better don't happen.
30 nov. 2023 à 18 h 12
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Yes because he retires a leaf after this year lol and yes the defence is better but that’s because you’ve added 3 defenders but it would be so much better if you didn’t subtract Brodie


I think the Leafs and Treliving are far more concerned with making the Leafs a contender than they are giving Gio a retirement tour in Toronto.
30 nov. 2023 à 18 h 13
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I think the Leafs and Treliving are far more concerned with making the Leafs a contender than they are giving Gio a retirement tour in Toronto.


They probably can’t get enough for him for it to make sense to trade him they’d be lucky to get a 5th
 
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